Going by chance alone - a no lynch results in 1 town kill (the mafia night kill).

A random lynch results in 1 town kill (the mafia night kill) + 3/11 chance for a mafia kill or 8/11 chance town kill (going by the assumption that there are 3 scum among 11 players)

As far as I see it, a no lynch will brings us back to square 1, except we have lost someone who then is a confirmed town. Of course this means that the chances are better for the next day (3/10), and you do know that whatever the person getting killed during the night at least was not scum play. However, this same applies with a random lynch, but then you also have the 3/11 chance to get a scum in the same go.... or 8/11 chance to loose 2 town....

Yeah, no lynches are only really a good thing when used strategically towards the end of the game. Without going into as detailed an analysis as amok, we end up in day 2 with hardly any more information but with one of us dead.

Can we have a votecount?

2 votes for SirPrimalform (QuadrAlien and gkaiser)
2 votes for CSPVG (JMich and Flubbucket)
0 vote for QuadrAlien
1 vote for Vitek (SirPrimalform)
0 vote for amok
0 vote for JMich
0 vote for Robbeasy
1 vote for JoeSapphire (Robbeasy)
1 vote for gkaiser (DarkoD13)
0 vote for DarkoD13
3 votes for flubbucket (Vitek, amok and CSPVG)

Lynch is decided at 6 votes.

JoeSapphire hasn't voted yet.

Deadline is tomorrow at noon (12h GMT).

hm. I should have thought about this earlier.
I'ld be most happy lynching Vitek or QuadrAlien.
But I suppose I've backed myself into a corner.

Vitek for old and new offenses. QuadrAlien for shifty skirting of general events, and also for coming to defense of Joe.

I see now where I was just being irritable and calling on you all to achieve a lynch, and then being the last one to vote. But there's still a day left and we can do this! I AM BRIMMING WITH GENUINE HOPE.

vote Vitek

A list of reasons (from memory)
- referred to 'town'
- what was the other thing that he did? Well I've mentioned it before, you remember.
- turned on me tried to turn my own words against me (this is personal I don't expect you to be interested)
- suggestive comments on what power roles should do (I know that he was suggesting that they target ME so it may look like I'm just retaliating, but there's no reason why (at this stage) I shouldn't be a valid target - but if he is mafia then guiding the night actions away from his team is very bad.)

Four reasons? One of them applies only to me, and one of them I don't actually remember? I had better go and find what that second thing was hadn't I?

YES!
It makes perfect sense to me that QuadrAlien and Vitek are on a team. You remember when I asked QuadrAlien what where thoughts on whether kkreo dropped out because of the pressures of scum role! It was Vitek who made that initial joke! Why does that convince me? Does it convince anyone else? It is a good joke between mafias.
hm...
Well I think the second thing was actually the first thing which was Sprimal saying "our doctor is dead!" (suspect?) and Vitek responding "don't worry, I blahblahblah" which might be a set up for claiming emergency back up doctor... but I'm the least happy with that one so you can lump that with the bad reasons.

ALSO I saw a post where Vitek accused me of having tunnel vision which I think is a MOST UNFAIR comment seeing as it has taken me nearly the whole game to get back to my first suspect BUT NOW I HAVE FOUND THAT SUSPECTS PARTNER AS WELL...

I am playing awfully. We are all awful.

I could do another list of reads if anyone wants? They don't seem to bring me so much cheer recently as they used to do. Still, it might just pull us out of this melancholy.

I do believe that in this stage a lynch is better than a no-lynch.

At the moment, it seems that the most likely candidates are :

Flub
SPF
CSPVG

At the moment, I can get behind a wagon on Flub and CSPVG. SPF, I am not so sure about at the moment. He is not safe, but out of those 3 he is the least of my suspects. So I for now stand on Flub, but if there is a swing towards RSVP, then I can be persuaded to change my vote. If we do nothing, then we most certainly will have a town kill without learning much.

ok - as it looks like my vote will be wasted on Joe, as i have no support, i am going to switch to SPF in an effort to lynch at least one of my main suspects..

unvote Joe

vote SirPrimalForm

That puts him on 4 votes...

I was expecting more to have happened than this.

I don't want to just vote for who everybody else is voting for, but if it's the only way to achieve a lynch then that's what I'll di. We have what? an hour and a half? It doesn't look like it's going to happen.

NEVER LOSE YOUR SPARK. NEVER BACK DOWN. NEVER ADMIT THAT YOU COULD BE WRONG. NEVER LIE AT A PARTY BECAUSE IT MIGHT MAKE THINGS AWKWARD IF YOUR CONVERSATION PARTNER HAPPENS TO MEET YOU AGAIN IN A MORE FAMILIAR SETTING.

Surely you mean three votes.

4 votes? Maybe it's not as impossible as it seems. SORRY EVERYBODY FOR MY DISPONDENCY.

EditBWOfPost -

3 votes?? We're doomed!!! (I think Rob owes people a capitolised apology. No?)

I don't like that CSPVG is around, but only commented to correct Rob's error (and error it must have been, no-one would attempt so obvious a lie - why only the most foolish would accept it even for a moment!).

AND!!
I look at the votes and see that Vitek and CSPVG are voting flubbucket.
Is the order Telika's listed the names the order the votes were placed?

Well anyway. It evens it out. I'm still around. I have a good feeling.

unvote Vitek, vote CSPVG

Sorry - yeah, brain fart there - i meant three votes, wasn't trying to pull a fast one or anything!

Joe - here we are close to deadline, we are trying to get some sort of impetus going, and you go and make sure of a no-lynch by equalling up the votes so we have three people sat with three votes each.

Way to go - very pro town of you there. I would switch my vote straight back to you right now if i thought it would do any good.

How was it different to what you did? We both put someone on to three votes.
You think I should have blindly trusted your compelling argument to vote for SPrimal?

I have to say, I don't think it was a very pro-town post of you that one Rob

You seem to have a casting vote!

Could someone nudge SPrimal and tell him the same?

Well, i will but my vote where my moth is:

unvote Flub, vote CSPVG