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Ok, here's what I'm thinking.

I want to hear about Nmillar's file. Why? Because otherwise its just going to be the usual picking apart of posts and reading hidden meanings into things, which I'm absolutely no good at. I'm not getting any definite feelings from any of you, and bringing the file into the mix will at least give us some tangible evidence to work with.

If this is a bad idea, then please feel free to shoot it down. The last thing I want is to look like I'm pushing someone in an anti-town manner.
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jefequeso: Ok, here's what I'm thinking.

I want to hear about Nmillar's file. Why? Because otherwise its just going to be the usual picking apart of posts and reading hidden meanings into things, which I'm absolutely no good at. I'm not getting any definite feelings from any of you, and bringing the file into the mix will at least give us some tangible evidence to work with.

If this is a bad idea, then please feel free to shoot it down. The last thing I want is to look like I'm pushing someone in an anti-town manner.
I haven't bread crumbed the information from File #4 yet. I'm not sure yet whether the it's a good idea to release the information yet in case the subject is town aligned. I'm starting to get the impression they're scum, based on posts that have happened today.

@Red_Baron; I'm afraid it isn't you again.
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SirPrimalform: So do you have other reasons for considering Damnation town?
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nmillar: No, I'm basing it entirely on the information I was given.
That seems a little short sighted unless there's some info you haven't chosen to reveal yet. >_>

I don't see it as a reason to suspect Damnation though, just not as a reason to trust him.
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jefequeso: Ok, here's what I'm thinking.

I want to hear about Nmillar's file. Why? Because otherwise its just going to be the usual picking apart of posts and reading hidden meanings into things, which I'm absolutely no good at. I'm not getting any definite feelings from any of you, and bringing the file into the mix will at least give us some tangible evidence to work with.

If this is a bad idea, then please feel free to shoot it down. The last thing I want is to look like I'm pushing someone in an anti-town manner.
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nmillar: I haven't bread crumbed the information from File #4 yet. I'm not sure yet whether the it's a good idea to release the information yet in case the subject is town aligned. I'm starting to get the impression they're scum, based on posts that have happened today.
Ahh, ok.

Guess I'll turn my attention to the emerging question of Damnation's alignment. Right after class, that is.
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nmillar: @Red_Baron; I'm afraid it isn't you again.
Hehe, its okay - I still believe you to be town, even without being able to confirmed stuff myself :)
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nmillar: @Red_Baron; I'm afraid it isn't you again.
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Red_Baron: Hehe, its okay - I still believe you to be town, even without being able to confirmed stuff myself :)
Why is that? It was you and Baz pointing out to me that nmillar being right doesn't make him town...
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Red_Baron: Since we have a confirmed multiple mafia scenery, of whom the members are clearly trying to kill the others off, then you can conclude nothing based upon the fact that nmillar revealed a scum in regards of his towniness, though it might tell you about the truth of his power claim (unless mafia knows each other from the beginning..I doubt that a little though, can't see how it would be balanced).
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NotFrenchYet: Why is that? It was you and Baz pointing out to me that nmillar being right doesn't make him town...
Indeed, as I've said earlier I am inclined to believe him to be town, just due to the situation I myself was/is in, in regards of my own revelation of info. However I was commenting on you saying that he was pretty much a confirmed town. That is something different. What I believe to be the case, yet can keep in mind of possibilities is not the same as it being confirmed. If that makes sense?
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NotFrenchYet: Why is that? It was you and Baz pointing out to me that nmillar being right doesn't make him town...
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Red_Baron: Indeed, as I've said earlier I am inclined to believe him to be town, just due to the situation I myself was/is in, in regards of my own revelation of info. However I was commenting on you saying that he was pretty much a confirmed town. That is something different. What I believe to be the case, yet can keep in mind of possibilities is not the same as it being confirmed. If that makes sense?
Ah yes I remember, and I think I see the nuance there. You're saying we can't talk about him being confirmed town because of the correct lynch, but he leaning town for you due to you being in a similar situation with revealing information?
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NotFrenchYet: Ah yes I remember, and I think I see the nuance there. You're saying we can't talk about him being confirmed town because of the correct lynch, but he leaning town for you due to you being in a similar situation with revealing information?
Yes :)
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ViolatorX: 5 Cruward_darkeyes(Zchnique)
*Shakes fist*

Anyway, continuing on from my last post.

Living players /w claims:
3 SirPrimalform - unknown
5 Cruward_darkeyes(Zchnique) - unknown
6 jefequeso - joe-lover (joe was town)
8 Grynn(NotfrenchYet) - unknown
11 Nmillar - Semi-random copish guy
12 Bazilisek - jailkeeper
13 Damnation - vanilla townie (as claimed by nmillar)
14 QuadrAlien(Red Baron) - Unknown power role (claimed to have spent 1-shot kill on Vitek, otherwise unknown)

Let's do the whole "what we know" thing again. That was fun. Right? Of course you think so.

We know that:
nmillar has some sort of investigation role - he has revealed information, which has turned out correct, on several players from different factions, so it's highly unlikely that he is bluffing.
Red_Baron killed Vitek - no one has disputed his claiming of the kill.
Jefe and joe were lovers - no one has disputed jefe's claim, and while it is technically possible that Joe's lover role was a red herring (a lover without a partner), it would be a major risk for scum-Jefe to claim the partnership, and for little possible gain.

Speculation:
Baz is probably the doc he has claimed to be - Rod clearly had some info on Baz (who was most likely Rod's lyncher target). Unless Rod was trying to pull off a major bluff, for which I see no reason, the back and forth between the two makes it very unlikely that Baz is lying about his claim.

@nmillar: Unless I'm mistaken, you said that you don't choose your own targets directly. Can you divulge any information on how your targets are picked?

I'm thinking that a mass claim in this situation would be beneficial. It should help us tie up some loose ends, and what is most likely our cop (nmillar) and doc (Baz) are already out in the open, meaning that the risk of outing the major town power roles is quite small.

So (shades of Mafia #2)... Who's up for a mass claim?
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ViolatorX: 5 Cruward_darkeyes(Zchnique)
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Zchinque: *Shakes fist*

Anyway, continuing on from my last post.

Living players /w claims:
3 SirPrimalform - unknown
5 Cruward_darkeyes(Zchnique) - unknown
6 jefequeso - joe-lover (joe was town)
8 Grynn(NotfrenchYet) - unknown
11 Nmillar - Semi-random copish guy
12 Bazilisek - jailkeeper
13 Damnation - vanilla townie (as claimed by nmillar)
14 QuadrAlien(Red Baron) - Unknown power role (claimed to have spent 1-shot kill on Vitek, otherwise unknown)

Let's do the whole "what we know" thing again. That was fun. Right? Of course you think so.

We know that:
nmillar has some sort of investigation role - he has revealed information, which has turned out correct, on several players from different factions, so it's highly unlikely that he is bluffing.
Red_Baron killed Vitek - no one has disputed his claiming of the kill.
Jefe and joe were lovers - no one has disputed jefe's claim, and while it is technically possible that Joe's lover role was a red herring (a lover without a partner), it would be a major risk for scum-Jefe to claim the partnership, and for little possible gain.

Speculation:
Baz is probably the doc he has claimed to be - Rod clearly had some info on Baz (who was most likely Rod's lyncher target). Unless Rod was trying to pull off a major bluff, for which I see no reason, the back and forth between the two makes it very unlikely that Baz is lying about his claim.

@nmillar: Unless I'm mistaken, you said that you don't choose your own targets directly. Can you divulge any information on how your targets are picked?

I'm thinking that a mass claim in this situation would be beneficial. It should help us tie up some loose ends, and what is most likely our cop (nmillar) and doc (Baz) are already out in the open, meaning that the risk of outing the major town power roles is quite small.

So (shades of Mafia #2)... Who's up for a mass claim?
Well, as someone who has already claimed, I'm totally up for it :3
Could say things along the lines of Jef, with my role being somewhat claimed.

If its a good idea or not.. hmmm depends in my opinion of the info we stand to gain. If for instance others have interesting night actions they could teach us stuff and help prove in regards of the claims from others and a general claim would make it easier to consider setup.

However the agreement to claim is assuming that Baz is indeed telling the truth about being the doc (I consider it likely, but worth mentioning). So yea, I would follow suit if majority agrees with the notion.
I... I'm in favour of this, actually. There's stuff I've been dying to tell you all. (Not literally. Yet.) Since the majority have claimed, it seems to make sense at this point to put cards on the table about roles, at least. I think.
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Zchinque: I'm thinking that a mass claim in this situation would be beneficial. It should help us tie up some loose ends, and what is most likely our cop (nmillar) and doc (Baz) are already out in the open, meaning that the risk of outing the major town power roles is quite small.
I don't think nmillar is the fabled Angelo the cop. The flavour he's hinted at does not really correspond to what we learned in the Rod lynch scene. (Yeah, I know I'm starting to sound really paranoid about nmillar, but I still can't get over the weird timing of that first impossible-to-notice crumb.)
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NotFrenchYet: I... I'm in favour of this, actually. There's stuff I've been dying to tell you all. (Not literally. Yet.) Since the majority have claimed, it seems to make sense at this point to put cards on the table about roles, at least. I think.
A little more patience there, Frenchie. We have not decided yet, and you go ahead and softclaim a power role. I'm throwing a look of disapproval in your general direction.

As for the mass claim, I tentatively agree. We seem to be at a very comfortable position in the game, we can afford to take a risk, I think.
Well, I'm mostly against a mass claim for reasons related to how my role works (a little softclaim there for you I suppose).