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bansama: I know it's an old thread, but this is most relevant place to post this.
I asked GamersGate yesterday what their plans were regarding download speeds in SE Asia, and they got back to me asking me to test the download speeds of a couple of new games. First downloading from the default servers for SE Asia (which I guess may actually be in Europe) and then from a new server in the US.
The results are quite clear that the new US based server is faster. I've gone from speeds of around 176 kbs to 375 kbs =) What's more, they actually let me keep the new games used for testing the download speeds for free (the new Downfall game and Divine Divinity 2). $80 worth of games for free. That's what I call amazing customer service.
If they can ensure these speeds from the US server for SE Asia, I'll be buying far more from them and far less from Steam.

Pretty awesome! That's how customer service should be done.
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bansama: That's what I call amazing customer service.
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Delixe: It's not hard to see how they have earned that reputation of excellent customer service. Can't see how they are making much profit though as they have a habit of giving games away.

If you get a game for free from them you'll bound to come back, right?
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Delixe: It's not hard to see how they have earned that reputation of excellent customer service. Can't see how they are making much profit though as they have a habit of giving games away.

They earn the reputation of excellent customer service by actually going out of their way to help. Not to mention that they do so far faster than most other places too. The free games are a nice bonus, yes, and they were certainly a nice surprise. But that doesn't factor into how good their customer service is, the fact that they are actively trying to find a way to increase speeds over here is what makes me far more likely to continue using them.
For the record, I've gotten free games in the past from Valve too, but I certainly wouldn't call their customer service any thing other than piss poor. Big Fish games also are in a habit of giving away free games too (as happened the last time I contacted their support) and they're also making a killing in terms of profit.
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michaelleung: If you get a game for free from them you'll bound to come back, right?

See my point about Valve. They could give me all the games on Steam for free and they'd still be the last place I'd buy from when there are viable alternatives.
Post edited January 20, 2010 by bansama
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bansama: For the record, I've gotten free games in the past from Valve too, but I certainly wouldn't call their customer service any thing other than piss poor.

I'm certainly not saying it's a bad thing, obviously they are making a profit. It's just unusual to see such generosity especially in your case when they could have provided you just a demo.
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bansama: I know it's an old thread, but this is most relevant place to post this.
I asked GamersGate yesterday what their plans were regarding download speeds in SE Asia, and they got back to me asking me to test the download speeds of a couple of new games. First downloading from the default servers for SE Asia (which I guess may actually be in Europe) and then from a new server in the US.
The results are quite clear that the new US based server is faster. I've gone from speeds of around 176 kbs to 375 kbs =) What's more, they actually let me keep the new games used for testing the download speeds for free (the new Downfall game and Divine Divinity 2). $80 worth of games for free. That's what I call amazing customer service.
If they can ensure these speeds from the US server for SE Asia, I'll be buying far more from them and far less from Steam.

Excellent news! As another dude who benefits from fast speeds in that place called Asia (perhaps you've heard of it?) it makes me want to get more stuff off GG, though Steam's speeds are not bad either. I'm so conflicted.
Post edited January 20, 2010 by michaelleung
I quite like Gamersgate. Aside from having to use a proxy to buy games (Euro prices are too high for my liking), their site is easy to navigate, downloads are fast, customer service is top notch and they're generally pleasant to deal with.
I already made a topic on Steam so it's probably no secret I'm no fan of it: support outright SUCKS, they're even more expensive than Gamersgate but proxies don't work (they found a way to counter that), download speeds are lower for me personally, everything is tied to their Steam software which is annoying, etc.
My favorite company would be Impulse Driven though (or Stardock). Great customer service, the client is just for ease (doesn't need to be running to play a game) and you can choose whether you patch the game + fun to use, etc.
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Red_Avatar: My favorite company would be Impulse Driven though (or Stardock). Great customer service,

Must... resist... urge... to... troll.
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Red_Avatar: My favorite company would be Impulse Driven though (or Stardock). Great customer service,
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Delixe: Must... resist... urge... to... troll.

Didn't you say you gave up on those bastards?
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Delixe: I'm certainly not saying it's a bad thing, obviously they are making a profit. It's just unusual to see such generosity especially in your case when they could have provided you just a demo.

They could have done yes, but I wonder how many demos hosted by GamersGate are 6 gigs in size? The aim of this was to test the download speeds for mid to large downloads and granted they could just have asked me to redownload Sacred 2 again, but I guess my annoyance at having to spend over 30 hours downloading that may have been partially responsible for their offer.
They actually did personally apologize about that experience a few weeks ago -- and I assumed that was the end of it and was happy with the apology.
Now if this were Steam, could you see them apologize for the horrendous download speeds? Actually, I know from when they did have poor download speeds that they won't apologize at all.
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michaelleung: Excellent news! As another dude who benefits from fast speeds in that place called Asia (perhaps you've heard of it?) it makes me want to get more stuff off GG, though Steam's speeds are not bad either. I'm so conflicted.

Hmm, one time activation most likely by a very light version of SecuROM and then never needing to go online again (unless you reinstall) or 3rd party client which performs online authentication every time you want to play... There's not much of a choice for me anymore. I'd take the client less version where realistically possible.
And yes, it's GGs current download speeds that are the only thing keeping me from buying more large games from them. Hopefully they'll take the results from this test and will decide to permanently switch SE Asia customers over to the US servers -- as far as I know they've only temporarily switched me over.
Post edited January 20, 2010 by bansama
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bansama: Now if this were Steam, could you see them apologize for the horrendous download speeds? Actually, I know from when they did have poor download speeds that they won't apologize at all.

I'm sure that Gabe after finishing a bowl of sand eels would say HOHOHOHAHAHAHAHOHOHO somehting about Solo and Wookie then want a dance from slavegirl Leia.
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michaelleung: Didn't you say you gave up on those bastards?

Thats why it would be trolling and I refuse to do that. Although...
Post edited January 20, 2010 by Delixe
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Red_Avatar: I already made a topic on Steam so it's probably no secret I'm no fan of it: support outright SUCKS, they're even more expensive than Gamersgate but proxies don't work (they found a way to counter that), download speeds are lower for me personally, everything is tied to their Steam software which is annoying, etc.

If you can work out how to set up and use Amazon's EC2, Valve can't detect it as a proxy =) Unfortunately, I still can't work out how to set it up and while I can find many mentions on the net from Japanese who use it, none provide instructions that make any sense >_<.
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Red_Avatar: My favorite company would be Impulse Driven though (or Stardock). Great customer service,
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Delixe: Must... resist... urge... to... troll.

Had a bad experience ? :P Please spill the beans if you have - I'm always curious to hear stories unless they're on the level of anjohl's "it happened to me so it happens to everyone!" *laughs* I'll trade you 5 bad Steam experiences in return if you want ;). All in mint condition!
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Red_Avatar: Had a bad experience ? :P Please spill the beans if you have - I'm always curious to hear stories unless they're on the level of anjohl's "it happened to me so it happens to everyone!" *laughs* I'll trade you 5 bad Steam experiences in return if you want ;). All in mint condition!

You will find them well documented if you use the search function. Needless to say I certainly ain't happy with them. And if you live outside the US then don't pre-order anything from them. You have been warned.
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Red_Avatar: I already made a topic on Steam so it's probably no secret I'm no fan of it: support outright SUCKS, they're even more expensive than Gamersgate but proxies don't work (they found a way to counter that), download speeds are lower for me personally, everything is tied to their Steam software which is annoying, etc.
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bansama: If you can work out how to set up and use Amazon's EC2, Valve can't detect it as a proxy =) Unfortunately, I still can't work out how to set it up and while I can find many mentions on the net from Japanese who use it, none provide instructions that make any sense >_<.

I found this one link in Japanese and it mentioned the words Steam Store a lot, along with EC2. I can only read the characters shared with Chinese and even then I don't get it. Perhaps you've seen that one already?
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michaelleung: I found this one link in Japanese and it mentioned the words Steam Store a lot, along with EC2. I can only read the characters shared with Chinese and even then I don't get it. Perhaps you've seen that one already?

Yup, that one gets linked to a lot from other sources too. But like you, it makes little sense to me.