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richlind33: My favorite quote from Political Economy...
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JMich: Let me another one, since my taking of Rousseau's points is that he would support current copyright law, if not find it too lax.

Another more important difference is that since the children have nothing but what they receive from their father, it is plain that all the rights of property belong to him, or emanate from him; but quite the opposite is the case in the great family, where the general administration is established only to secure individual property, which is antecedent to it.
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JMich: Hell, just do a search for any mentions of property, and you'll see that Rousseau says that property shouldn't be taken away, though the owner of said property may have to give the State its due. He also suggests heavily taxing luxury items (and I think games in general do count as luxury items), while he also suggests leaving industry untaxed (and the making of games could be seen as an industry).

So no, in my view, Rousseau does not disagree with copyright law, since he says that property should be protected. If I make a game and wish to keep it for myself, no one should be able to force me to give it to someone else. One could entice me to do so, but not force me.
I'm not implying that he disagreed fundamentally with property law, but rather, that he stressed emphatically that gov't must serve the general interest of society first and foremost, and that leaders above all others *must* be bound by it's laws without exception, for it is by their example that law earns the respect of a people. And he goes on to explicitly describe what happens in the absence of such leadership, and it almost perfectly describes what we see going on in our world today, The UN being a very good example, where law is only applied when it is to the advantage of one or more of the permanent members of the UN Security Council, and at all other times it is not applied at all.
Post edited October 14, 2016 by richlind33
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sanscript: *Damn, I need to buy some more popcorn tomorrow... AGAIN*
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tinyE: Where have you been!?

Witness Protection again?
Sure, close enough. WP = Wipped personality (tm) gone unprotected on safari ;-)
lol

Sorry, I should be constructive, there's plenty here bro.
Post edited October 14, 2016 by bad_fur_day1
I rarely drop by here these days but this post caught my eye. It made me smile as I thought of the 60 or so games I have installed and play regularly. All of them are my favorite "Good Old Game" on any given day. Thanks to GOG I have a 300 game backlog that I will probably never get to finish. Some of them I have played for over a year without finishing them. Others I have played almost non-stop to the end. Almost all of my games were purchased here on GOG with many replacing old disks of the same game. My point is this site has an abundance of good old games. It is my "go to" site bar none. Often I have found an old or new game that I had passed on . . bought it on sale . . and found yet another good game to my surprise.

I will agree that the site has gone through some changes, some I like, some I don't. I have also been introduced to some new games that I found to be really good, some not so good.

Anyway, there is a multitude of good, old games here and some really good new games. I don't buy that many nowadays but I know I can always find one or two every time I stop in which I admit is not that often. GOG has changed but it still my main provider of good old and new games.
Post edited October 14, 2016 by Stuff
The other day I was on aliexpress to find some massive LEDs for my car lights when I after a while stumbled upon a so called pedometer. And this thread got me thinking; we should all equip ourselves with a "trollmeter". Whenever this "meter" is high you should keep away from the internet, especially from other peoples forums/playgrounds .

Not trying to engulf everything into a revolution here (pun indented), but it normally goes like this: I you won't even try to find out you will never find out. GOG evolves as everything else, whether we like or not, and it's not a perfect "liberty" system. Nor should we expect it to be.

However, getting from laziness over semantics to the politics on human rights and property is actually fascinating reading :-D.
WOOHOO! REJOICE! Your prayers have been heard! GOG just released a Good Old Game all the way back from 1992, back when many of you weren't even born yet!

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_titus_the_fox_to_marrakech_and_back_a041a/page1

Knock yourself out! Buy it buy it buy it!

(I don't, old platformers are not really my thing, I even prefer new indie platformers to most of them...)
Post edited October 14, 2016 by timppu
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PutCashIn: Recently acquired a debit card to purchase games, wasting my time apparently - seems this site has been replaced with Crap new Games.

Where is Baldurs Gate 2? Ice Wind Dale 2? Vampire the Masquerade?

This site has turned into some idiot indie crap site.
You can find all good old games here: https://www.gog.com/games?release=p2000&sort=date&page=1 (updated every week with new titles)
Post edited October 14, 2016 by GroovyDude
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tinyE: Pong?

Well, I'll add it to the wishlist. :D
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snowkatt: stil to new !
I think OP wants GOG to sell two clubs to fight over a piece of mammoth meat with.
Post edited October 14, 2016 by DubConqueror
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snowkatt: stil to new !
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DubConqueror: I think OP wants GOG to sell two clubs to fight over a piece of mammoth meat with.
well considering he has fled like they always do i dont think we will ever find out
but you cant get any older then tennis for two ( 1958)
oxo ( 1952)
nimrod ( 1951 )
and bertie the brain ( 1950)

for video games anyway
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richlind33: But here's the short answer: law is supposed to be for everyone's benefit, not just the privileged few, because that's the only way it will be respected, and this is why we have gargantuan enforcement agencies and one of the highest rates of incarceration in the world.
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zeogold: ...and this applies to GOG...how?
help help my universal human rights to play a video game are being repressed


;p
Post edited October 14, 2016 by snowkatt
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tinyE: I worked really hard on that map and you assholes are just totally fucking up the whole joke with your pissing contest!

"You make me sad."
I have been studying the map and had a hunch it couldn't be real, I just knew it was a fake - and now the perpetrator confessed! Your honor, send him to the salt mines (if there are any on Cyrodill).

mmm, maybe that's isn't the proper punishment for TinyE. Forging coins gets one boiled as heat is used to make coins, so how about one who forges a map with... I know it! Peck and feathers your honor!
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DubConqueror: I think OP wants GOG to sell two clubs to fight over a piece of mammoth meat with.
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snowkatt: well considering he has fled like they always do i dont think we will ever find out
but you cant get any older then tennis for two ( 1958)
oxo ( 1952)
nimrod ( 1951 )
and bertie the brain ( 1950)

for video games anyway
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zeogold: ...and this applies to GOG...how?
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snowkatt: help help my universal human rights to play a video game are being repressed

;p
Only if you neglect to suckle teh almighty corporate penis, and I would never try to interfere with your universal human right to do so. Never, ever, ever! ;p
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richlind33: I'm not implying that he disagreed fundamentally with property law, but rather, that he stressed emphatically that gov't must serve the general interest of society first and foremost, and that leaders above all others *must* be bound by it's laws without exception, for it is by their example that law earns the respect of a people. And he goes on to explicitly describe what happens in the absence of such leadership, and it almost perfectly describes what we see going on in our world today, The UN being a very good example, where law is only applied when it is to the advantage of one or more of the permanent members of the UN Security Council, and at all other times it is not applied at all.
You've still yet to explain how any of this applies to GOG.
You believe your rights as a human are being infringed upon because a business doesn't offer what you want?
News flash, pal. That's what you call a "free market". If you don't like it, go somewhere else. If you don't like that somewhere else, don't buy online games. Problem solved.
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richlind33: I'm not implying that he disagreed fundamentally with property law, but rather, that he stressed emphatically that gov't must serve the general interest of society first and foremost, and that leaders above all others *must* be bound by it's laws without exception, for it is by their example that law earns the respect of a people. And he goes on to explicitly describe what happens in the absence of such leadership, and it almost perfectly describes what we see going on in our world today, The UN being a very good example, where law is only applied when it is to the advantage of one or more of the permanent members of the UN Security Council, and at all other times it is not applied at all.
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zeogold: You've still yet to explain how any of this applies to GOG.
You believe your rights as a human are being infringed upon because a business doesn't offer what you want?
News flash, pal. That's what you call a "free market". If you don't like it, go somewhere else. If you don't like that somewhere else, don't buy online games. Problem solved.
No, I just think that anyone who thinks copyright law is important when most people in this world have no human rights is a subhuman lout.
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richlind33: No, I just think that anyone who thinks copyright law is important when most people in this world have no human rights is a subhuman lout.
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I'm going to guess you've never tried to make/publish/sell anything before.
Copyrights are necessary because if you don't use them, somebody can take your work and market it as their own.
If you don't think they're important, you're literally advocating for piracy.

I think I at least somewhat get where you're coming from? I mean, in a perfect world, sure, everything would be made for the benefit of humanity, there'd be no need for copyrights or buying and selling or any such thing.
However, that simply isn't the reality, and to behave like it isn't is foolish and, in some cases, societal suicide (look at how well socialism went over for the soviets).

Perhaps many people in this world don't have human rights, but is that any reason to deny it to those who DO?
Post edited October 14, 2016 by zeogold
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richlind33: No, I just think that anyone who thinks copyright law is important when most people in this world have no human rights is a subhuman lout.
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zeogold: ......
I'm going to guess you've never tried to make/publish/sell anything before.
Copyrights are necessary because if you don't use them, somebody can take your work and market it as their own.
If you don't think they're important, you're literally advocating for piracy.
He's 13 years old. How the hell is he supposed to know anything about copyright law?