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apehater: although your examples are wrong, its true that gog stopped to be what it was. they don't care or support much old games nowdays. infested by pure greed and recklesness they're now focusing on other shitty, useless stuff. they should rebrand themselves into shitty new games or hipstar new games instead of gog.
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richlind33: It does look like GOG is headed in the same direction as Steam.
sad but true. i can't await gog's whiny, cheap excuse for releasing drm'd titles
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apehater: they don't care or support much old games nowdays.
And your proof for this, besides some new games which have come in here and attracted more business for them than before, is...?
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apehater: they don't care or support much old games nowdays.
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zeogold: And your proof for this, besides some new games which have come in here and attracted more business for them than before, is...?
it wasn't a proof, its a prediction. based on the experience i made on gog since 2014
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richlind33: When "the law" considers copyrights to be more important than universal human rights, maybe it is already broken?
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zeogold: 1. How is it a "human right" to play a video game?
2. So you're basically advocating piracy, then?
It isn't.

Read Rousseau's Political Economy and you'll know where I'm coming from.
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zeogold: And your proof for this, besides some new games which have come in here and attracted more business for them than before, is...?
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apehater: it wasn't a proof, its a prediction. based on the experience i made on gog since 2014
So basically, your argument boils down to "GOG is going down the drain because they don't have what I like here!"

At this point, I'm even more confused as to why you still bother to be here.
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richlind33: Read Rousseau's Political Economy and you'll know where I'm coming from.
Because your argument is just SOOOOO advanced that you can't explain it for yourself, eh?

Seriously, I've read a bit of Rousseau in the past, and if memory serves me right, he only ever wrote on society and the government, NOT about a freakin' video game store.
You're trying to apply philosophy to a place where philosophy doesn't fit in an attempt to avoid the argument or otherwise support your point without relevant proof.

Edit: Oh, and before you say "I'm not going to listen to you until you read it" or some similar nonsense, allow me to point out that if you can't summarize what you've supposedly read for yourself in a manner that can be plainly understood, then that's considerable evidence that you've either never read it or have failed to understand what you read.
Post edited October 13, 2016 by zeogold
I worked really hard on that map and you assholes are just totally fucking up the whole joke with your pissing contest!

"You make me sad."
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tinyE: I worked really hard on that map and you assholes are just totally fucking up the whole joke with your pissing contest!
To be fair, if you'd brought it to a roleplay meeting, it probably would've gotten a knife in it anyways.
Post edited October 13, 2016 by zeogold
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apehater: it wasn't a proof, its a prediction. based on the experience i made on gog since 2014
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zeogold: So basically, your argument boils down to "GOG is going down the drain because they don't have what I like here!"

At this point, I'm even more confused as to why you still bother to be here.
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richlind33: Read Rousseau's Political Economy and you'll know where I'm coming from.
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zeogold: Because your argument is just SOOOOO advanced that you can't explain it for yourself, eh?

Seriously, I've read a bit of Rousseau in the past, and if memory serves me right, he only ever wrote on society and the government, NOT about a freakin' video game store.
You're trying to apply philosophy to a place where philosophy doesn't fit in an attempt to avoid the argument or otherwise support your point without relevant proof.
No, because I'm gettin' tired and need a nap. But here's the short answer: law is supposed to be for everyone's benefit, not just the privileged few, because that's the only way it will be respected, and this is why we have gargantuan enforcement agencies and one of the highest rates of incarceration in the world.

My favorite quote from Political Economy...

Rigorous punishments are a futile expedient invented by small minds, in the aim of substituting terror for the respect they are incapable of earning.

In response to your edit: philosophy applies to everything, or to nothing at all.
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richlind33: But here's the short answer: law is supposed to be for everyone's benefit, not just the privileged few, because that's the only way it will be respected, and this is why we have gargantuan enforcement agencies and one of the highest rates of incarceration in the world.
...and this applies to GOG...how?
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apehater: it wasn't a proof, its a prediction. based on the experience i made on gog since 2014
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zeogold: So basically, your argument boils down to "GOG is going down the drain because they don't have what I like here!"

At this point, I'm even more confused as to why you still bother to be here.
this post is a trolling attempt, please stop this. "GOG is going down the drain because they don't have what I like here!" is what you're saying, hence the trolling attempt. i'm saying GOG is going down the drain because of various reasons. if you aren't able to see the reasons why gog became a shitty degenerated steam clone, you may first look into the whole development of gog since april 2014, get rid of the fanboy hype and think before posting. also i repeat, i supported gog with my money and haven't done that to see how gog is using it for galaxy and other moronic ideas, to block games, to block gifting, to abandon forum, to not support games, to release old games with already known (unplayable) bugs, release overpriced games, ..... so i'm gonna criticize gog, have the right to do that, hope others will too and don't care if you can't deal with that.
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apehater: this post is a trolling attempt, please stop this.
Yours, or mine? Because you're the one who's hanging around a website which he says is supposedly crap.
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apehater: to block games
That's a fault of government, not of GOG. You want them to break the law, I presume?
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apehater: to block gifting
Since when do they do that?
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zeogold: So basically, your argument boils down to "GOG is going down the drain because they don't have what I like here!"

At this point, I'm even more confused as to why you still bother to be here.
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apehater: this post is a trolling attempt, please stop this. "GOG is going down the drain because they don't have what I like here!" is what you're saying, hence the trolling attempt. i'm saying GOG is going down the drain because of various reasons. if you aren't able to see the reasons why gog became a shitty degenerated steam clone, you may first look into the whole development of gog since april 2014, get rid of the fanboy hype and think before posting. also i repeat, i supported gog with my money and haven't done that to see how gog is using it for galaxy and other moronic ideas, to block games, to block gifting, to abandon forum, to not support games, to release old games with already known (unplayable) bugs, release overpriced games, ..... so i'm gonna criticize gog, have the right to do that, hope others will too and don't care if you can't deal with that.
Well said.
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richlind33: My favorite quote from Political Economy...
Let me another one, since my taking of Rousseau's points is that he would support current copyright law, if not find it too lax.
Another more important difference is that since the children have nothing but what they receive from their father, it is plain that all the rights of property belong to him, or emanate from him; but quite the opposite is the case in the great family, where the general administration is established only to secure individual property, which is antecedent to it.
Hell, just do a search for any mentions of property, and you'll see that Rousseau says that property shouldn't be taken away, though the owner of said property may have to give the State its due. He also suggests heavily taxing luxury items (and I think games in general do count as luxury items), while he also suggests leaving industry untaxed (and the making of games could be seen as an industry).

So no, in my view, Rousseau does not disagree with copyright law, since he says that property should be protected. If I make a game and wish to keep it for myself, no one should be able to force me to give it to someone else. One could entice me to do so, but not force me.
*Damn, I need to buy some more popcorn tomorrow... AGAIN. Well, luckily, I now have my mastercard*
Post edited October 14, 2016 by sanscript
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sanscript: *Damn, I need to buy some more popcorn tomorrow... AGAIN*
Where have you been!?

Witness Protection again?