TStael: "Bien loin qu'un roi fournisse à ses sujets leur subsistence il ne tire la sienne que d'eux, et selon Rabelais un roi ne vit pas de peu.*
I am sorry, or not, actually: Iran hangs juveniles by short drop - at times before they even reach legal maturity, or just waiting for the juvenile offender to reach maturity, at 18.
I feel very strongly about this - I admit - executing children is wrong in my books. And I rather follow UN than Iran for that definition.
And here - @17 no-hang is UN; @17 hang with suffering is Iran.
I'd plausibly be SWJ by your definition. Not that I mind when hanging children is involved. Saying fuck or shit when slowly strangling to death probably does empower anyone. EU moral stance might meanwhile do a bit better. Or what say you?
LeonardoCornejo: What you are saying has nothing to do with my statement. On the contrary, it proves my point. It is absurd that we judge teenagers and any minor of ages 9 onwards as adults for certain crimes, yet still we think they are too young to understand complex issues. What I said could be shortened in one sentence.. Don't underestimate or shelter minors from truth.
I think it only proves the point that your ideal, or maybe de facto subsrciped, judiciary is different from mine.
This age 9 condemnation is truly the case for Mexico? If so, which sort of crimes, pray tell?
My stance is based on the Finnish judiciary, which I do not reject perso. I find it generally just, and fair.
Less than 15 years of age goes to children's services by default, but young perpetrators are liable to pay for damages. Just today I read of two 13 year olds whom spoilt enivorment by stealing oil canisters and spilling the oil. They will have to pay damages for the clean up.
Over 15 years but not adult will have lesser scale of punishmnet, but will still be liable.
At eigteen, persons are supposed to be wised-up, for the main.
I am intreagued by this crime at nine years - do tell us what it is!