RWarehall: As to your every 15 seconds, you are clearly exaggerating, else the screenshots would show that. Not saying there wasn't hate, but every 15 seconds of "I want to kill you" or "I want to do rape you with a tire iron" is impossible to believe.
I was explicitly trying to not exaggerate. That chat was going fast and horrible. I'll see if I have kept any screenshots of that twitch chat but if I even took any I think they are on the hard drive that doesn't work anymore. Maybe on my external backup. I'll have a look.
RWarehall: And how do you know that didn't include deleted posts? As an analytic group, they may very well have access to such?
Because it was done by Brand Watch.
Brand Watch offers programs to monitor social media but they don't have any special twitter access that allows them to see deleted posts from the past. So when they analyze tweets from months back they only get the non-deleted ones.
RWarehall: As to group identification, your argument becomes silly. So, no point in even forming groups if the group is the worst member. No more feminists because there is an extreme few? Makes no sense, all it would take was one opposition person to fake it and the group get disbanded. Much more reasonable, is to expect members of a group to disavow the extreme actions of fringe members (or impostors if the case may be); to be willing to criticize members who go off-message. That most of Gamergate does and with regularity.
I stand by my point. Disavowing is not enough for me. If you can kick asshole member out, do so. If you cannot do that (and if you also cannot drown their voices for what reason ever), be prepared to be seen as in one group with them.
And yes, that goes for atheists, feminists, political parties etc. as well.
Just repeating "He/she doesn't speak for me! He/she's just accidentally part of the same group!" is not good enough for me. Kick them out, drown them out or accept that they are part of your group and live with the consequences. If you cannot accept the consequences, you might better get out of that group.
RWarehall: I also see you conveniently forget all the doxxing, death threats and harassment on the other side like the guy how was doxxed and sent a knife through the mail telling him to go kill himself. Doxxing has happened dozens of times now by the anti-GGers yet that is almost never reported.
Both sides are shitty, no question there. While I find some complaints a bit ridiculous (like "Nobody wants to interview me although I have so much to say! The media is trying to silence me!") the doxxing and the threats on both sides are unacceptable.
And to use the doxxing and threats of the other side to justify using doxxing and threats as well is a complete no-go from my point of view.
You'll always find a worse asshole than yourself. Still that isn't a way to prove that you're a good person.
RWarehall: Nope only women matter, hence why your argument has no weight.
Eh, wut?
Edit: Spelling. Even the same mistake as yesterday. Argh.