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hedwards: I also find it rather hard to believe that Nintendo would slip a trans character into one of their games at that point. Granted, I don't understand Japanese culture, but I don't think that it was accepted back then to even the extent that it is now. So, it's rather unlikely that they'd have a trans character in any of their games of that vintage.

Even now, I'm not sure they have any trans characters at all.
I'll just leave [url=https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSmMS_kI_O2KvlklwMf-5rZW42lC32gLTp_I5Hn6KDNdcftFZjJ]this[/url] image from the original manual for Super Mario Bros. 2 here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3jdevw/the_witcher_3s_developers_are_apparently_racist/
Apparently madam diversity didn't quit her job as editor of Buzzfeed to go home and see Polish games with ''white'' people in it. So she must link to a tumblr post citing medieval Europe was full of black people and claim the blog of some Afrocentric quack as a source.
Looking at the conversation we had on race I don't think that woman can get any more stupid. Besides the fact that history is very much a puzzle of making out what is obvious due to absence; rather than taking some words from some medieval era writer out of context to validate wishful thinking.

I remember Vain saying 'diversity' was some ancient principle. He couldn't provide a source of course.
Post edited September 02, 2015 by Shadowstalker16
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hedwards: I also find it rather hard to believe that Nintendo would slip a trans character into one of their games at that point. Granted, I don't understand Japanese culture, but I don't think that it was accepted back then to even the extent that it is now. So, it's rather unlikely that they'd have a trans character in any of their games of that vintage.

Even now, I'm not sure they have any trans characters at all.
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Jonesy89: I'll just leave [url=https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSmMS_kI_O2KvlklwMf-5rZW42lC32gLTp_I5Hn6KDNdcftFZjJ]this[/url] image from the original manual for Super Mario Bros. 2 here.
True, Birdo was Nintendo's first, and only, "trans" character. However, that is out of the point. The thing is, Samus is all woman. Anyone with a little interest in Metroid knows that the whole series was inspired by the Alien franchise. Samus was basically Ripley with another name and look. She is and will always be a a woman. And since Super Metroid a motherly and womanly one.
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Shadowstalker16: https://archive.is/XkWOi
But... everyone in that painting is white as milk... I don't understand.
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Shadowstalker16: https://archive.is/XkWOi
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WBGhiro: But... everyone in that painting is white as milk... I don't understand.
The guys in the shadows are not of the race called ''white'' (which is somehow the only unifying factor from lake Baikal to Alaska if you hug the northern parts but doesn't seem to have enough unification power to stop any war that took place over those places) when they are in those shadows. Hence saying the whole crowd is white is racist. No I'm not gonna answer the original question because you clearly having internalized anti-inclusive art-interpretation processes is obviously more important.
I just love how that snot-mouthed American brat somehow was Editor of Geek culture at Buzzfeed. Just take a look at her Twitter feed. Her response to everything, is "You are an idiot. I know better than you." With no proof but her own assertions...

Quality journalism at its finest...

Leave it to a dumb American to tell the Polish how there were just so many Blacks and other ethnicities until the Nazis came along, because...um...Nazis...
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phaolo: Is this still going? O_o
The ride never ends
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phaolo: Is this still going? O_o
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dragonbeast: The ride never ends
On the topic of actually consuming journalistic content; I think I'm at a point where there are enough ethical alternatives to completely avoid all mainstream sites. I wonder who still reads Kotaku or Polygon these days.

Now we have the antiSJW side flaring up in a massive way. KiA is buckling from the load as the shit from the out of context warriors spew their feelings and lie about the recent events. So yeah; we're at a point where MGS5 released, Samus is being ignored as a human and being seen only as a woman, journos expressing no concern over male ''objectification'' while milking the cow on the other gender all the way to the bank, we have that dictator $arkeesian lying again and plenty of others. I was thinking the antiSJW side was getting less eventful after the talk of ethics and airplay but it flared up so much I'm sure this is gonna last until Christmas.
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Shadowstalker16: we're at a point where MGS5 released,
this caused activity on /v/ to plummet by the way
(yes /v/ is actually playing a game)
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dragonbeast: The ride never ends
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Shadowstalker16: On the topic of actually consuming journalistic content; I think I'm at a point where there are enough ethical alternatives to completely avoid all mainstream sites. I wonder who still reads Kotaku or Polygon these days.

Now we have the antiSJW side flaring up in a massive way. KiA is buckling from the load as the shit from the out of context warriors spew their feelings and lie about the recent events. So yeah; we're at a point where MGS5 released, Samus is being ignored as a human and being seen only as a woman, journos expressing no concern over male ''objectification'' while milking the cow on the other gender all the way to the bank, we have that dictator $arkeesian lying again and plenty of others. I was thinking the antiSJW side was getting less eventful after the talk of ethics and airplay but it flared up so much I'm sure this is gonna last until Christmas.
I've found myself checking out mentally more and more from all of this. The Samus controversy closed another couple of doors in my brain. There's an actual issue over the gender of a fully costumed video game icon from 30 years ago. People are actually deep in argument and discussion over it. I'm not even face palming myself at this point... more like jazz handing my head, like some masochist with tourette syndrome.

I'm wondering if the Wus, Quinns, and Sarkessians are fifth column agents working for the MRA. A movement couldn't pick more pedantic, erratic, and adolescent figureheads. If you flip the coin and make this a right wing movement dedicated to the defense of first person shooters, leaders like these would have tanked the whole damn thing long ago. But the crusaders always get a get-out-of-jail free card with their bosom buddies in the mainstream media establishment. One left hand washes another.
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Shadowstalker16: On the topic of actually consuming journalistic content; I think I'm at a point where there are enough ethical alternatives to completely avoid all mainstream sites. I wonder who still reads Kotaku or Polygon these days.

Now we have the antiSJW side flaring up in a massive way. KiA is buckling from the load as the shit from the out of context warriors spew their feelings and lie about the recent events. So yeah; we're at a point where MGS5 released, Samus is being ignored as a human and being seen only as a woman, journos expressing no concern over male ''objectification'' while milking the cow on the other gender all the way to the bank, we have that dictator $arkeesian lying again and plenty of others. I was thinking the antiSJW side was getting less eventful after the talk of ethics and airplay but it flared up so much I'm sure this is gonna last until Christmas.
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Emob78: I've found myself checking out mentally more and more from all of this. The Samus controversy closed another couple of doors in my brain. There's an actual issue over the gender of a fully costumed video game icon from 30 years ago. People are actually deep in argument and discussion over it. I'm not even face palming myself at this point... more like jazz handing my head, like some masochist with tourette syndrome.

I'm wondering if the Wus, Quinns, and Sarkessians are fifth column agents working for the MRA. A movement couldn't pick more pedantic, erratic, and adolescent figureheads. If you flip the coin and make this a right wing movement dedicated to the defense of first person shooters, leaders like these would have tanked the whole damn thing long ago. But the crusaders always get a get-out-of-jail free card with their bosom buddies in the mainstream media establishment. One left hand washes another.
I wonder when this will end. The social justice cancer doesn't seem to have an end in sight and simultaneously KiA looks more like TiA with ethics discussions added in each passing day. The only plausible ends I see are either the two sides perpetually attacking each other until the MSM support for aGG dies out and they lose or MSM going down with aGG both having damaged eachother's credibility too much. And both don't seem likely to happen any time soon. OR aGG just gets abandoned after the hipsters get tired of the 12th hitpiece per day and move on to easier targets that don't or can't talk back as much.

As to GG being a success; I think it depends on what one calls a success. Ethics policies have all be changed and the FTC has been forced to shake some stuff up. An index of shills has been prepared and almost all antiGG theories have been debunked through many a method on the occasional occurrence that aGG and SJ at large thinks their ideas for a revolution for the world may stand up to criticism. But MegaphoneAlexander and Master Kuchera and MuckIntosh and $arkeesian and LiterallyWu still hold some kind of credibility, and we haven't been able to provide the solutions the small problems that do exist in games.
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LOL, stupid SJWs in the forum vote low instead of have arguments, maybe is because they just DONT have any agument, truth hurts...

Kudos for me, II touched some right buttons with my previous post. Look how they never answer when you do not fall in their scheme of pissing off gamers and attack them to play the "victim". SAD but finally, even if I never pay a shit about GG and I think the movement was full of assholes at the very beginning, SJWs bring normal people to the movement with their stupidity, giving it more credit and camaradery that the poor initial GG could ever made by themselves.

So Gamers finally are far from be dead, sorry for your "SOCIAL" campaign, this is it what happens when some "iluminated" people try to impart "justice" in the most stupid and comfortable topic in the world, videogames, because join Greenpeace or feminists in Africa or Middle East, is definitively more dangerous than stay at home being a "Vegan Gamer" in Twitter working with our powerful weapons, SMARTPHONES and SOCIAL NETWORKS... woooooooowwwww!!!!
Post edited September 03, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
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Emob78: I've found myself checking out mentally more and more from all of this. The Samus controversy closed another couple of doors in my brain. There's an actual issue over the gender of a fully costumed video game icon from 30 years ago. People are actually deep in argument and discussion over it. I'm not even face palming myself at this point... more like jazz handing my head, like some masochist with tourette syndrome.

I'm wondering if the Wus, Quinns, and Sarkessians are fifth column agents working for the MRA. A movement couldn't pick more pedantic, erratic, and adolescent figureheads. If you flip the coin and make this a right wing movement dedicated to the defense of first person shooters, leaders like these would have tanked the whole damn thing long ago. But the crusaders always get a get-out-of-jail free card with their bosom buddies in the mainstream media establishment. One left hand washes another.
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Shadowstalker16: I wonder when this will end. The social justice cancer doesn't seem to have an end in sight and simultaneously KiA looks more like TiA with ethics discussions added in each passing day. The only plausible ends I see are either the two sides perpetually attacking each other until the MSM support for aGG dies out and they lose or MSM going down with aGG both having damaged eachother's credibility too much. And both don't seem likely to happen any time soon. OR aGG just gets abandoned after the hipsters get tired of the 12th hitpiece per day and move on to easier targets that don't or can't talk back as much.

As to GG being a success; I think it depends on what one calls a success. Ethics policies have all be changed and the FTC has been forced to shake some stuff up. An index of shills has been prepared and almost all antiGG theories have been debunked through many a method on the occasional occurrence that aGG and SJ at large thinks their ideas for a revolution for the world may stand up to criticism. But MegaphoneAlexander and Master Kuchera and MuckIntosh and $arkeesian and LiterallyWu still hold some kind of credibility, and we haven't been able to provide the solutions the small problems that do exist in games.
GG is a leaderless movement. aGG is a leader-based movement. When the foundation money runs out and new career opportunities appear, folks like Mcintosh and Sarkeesian will move on. That or they will self destruct due to their own vanity and self delusions. And gamers will continue to play video games.

The best solution for a free marketer like myself would be to see the SJW types make their own games and leave us alone with ours. If people really want to experience games through the eyes of transgendered, non-binary butterflies, let them make and play all those kind of games they want. That's fair. That's a market being created by and for its own constituency. But the scales of justice are never in balance. The energy has to swing in one radical direction or another. If the whole point of the great 'crusade' is to establish a dialogue about these issues, then we're already there, we're trying to have a dialogue. But the SJW pawns feel the need to constantly bring out the male tears coffee cups and ban hammers. To some egalitarianism means 'WE WIN.'
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YaTEdiGo:
Gamers are dead.

But clearly they don't know you have to kill the priest/necromancer first, otherwise killing gamers is a waste of time
Actually its not even a question of making games for specific genders or sexes. Both Winter Wolf Games and Her Interactive are two studios that make games with female player options and female centric choices and storylines. Out of the few aGG arguments that have been weaseled out here or on any forum, I've NEVER seen any mention of them even in comparative terms or aGG ever acknowledging their existence. I think this is a fundamental problem with social justice in that they focus on the everything of every minority and hence cannot concentrate on specific problems relating to one. They can't focus on it. Their followers won't let them. They financially lose from focusing on one particular topic.

Also : http://i.imgur.com/KEA2cGo.png
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YaTEdiGo:
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dragonbeast: Gamers are dead.

But clearly they don't know you have to kill the priest/necromancer first, otherwise killing gamers is a waste of time
Don't worry. Que up for respawn.
Post edited September 03, 2015 by Shadowstalker16