Total global racial intergration is a historical ineviability and will more likely bring world peace then any other thing else. Not self loathing white person or anything just thats its the best way forward fo r every race.

I appreciate your humanitarianism, but I doubt skin pigmentation is going to lead to world peace. Might leave it in pieces, but not in peace.

This might upset some people but if we get people on board we could take the best of every race and create some sort of program but unfortunetly nazi white supremascists gave eugenics a bad name.

Skin color has hardly been the cause of wars, it is at most a justification for them. If we were all of the same color, we would no doubt come up with other justifications; religion being a prime example.

And once talking idealism, I much rather wish for a future where we accept each other's differences than one where we are all identical. As a heavy traveler, nothing is more boring than a world where every place I go to is the same.

Eugenics never had a good name, only an agenda. Just read some of Margaret Sanger's works. Pretty disgusting stuff.

Theres good and bad sides to every thing but it wont likely happen - if at all - for another generation or two until the bitter taste of concetration camps and the likes have been washed away so dont panic.

Nobody understands what Hispanic means. It's essentially that somebody is from one of the Spanish speaking nations or their family was. It's not what I would personally consider to be a useful word as Italians have as much in common with Spaniards as folks from various South American countries have with each other. But, Italians aren't Hispanics.

It's a bullshit designation that they get when other groups have as much right or more to their own designation, but don't get it for political reasons.

Race was always a social construct. The commonly used terminology is based upon anthropological classifications and basically by the shape of the skull. The 23 & me project pretty thoroughly debunked the notion that races exist.

Ethnicity is a little bit more challenging as those are smaller groups that have more in common genetically. But, it's also more of an issue of culture than anything else.
Eugenics was a sick extension of the normal rules of procreation. People who are viewed to be of less value have a harder time having children.

Eugenics, was a stop further where there's an outright culling rather than just allowing certain variants to die out. It still happens in parts of the world like the US, but it's not something that's done on a wide scale and is mostly a side-effect of allowing people to decide whether to have children and if they do get pregnant whether or not to abort the fetus.

Being different is not the only element that led to racism. There are too many examples of people from technically the same race attacking eachother citing their superiority. Hatred isn't born out of racism, racism is born out of hatred. Again, take any of the examples from history. It may reduce race oriented conflicts; but what exactly is a race oriented conflict from the last 10 years?
Will 'universal race' solve

Russia vs Ukraine?
China vs Japan?
Russia vs NATO?
Sectarian conflicts in the middle east?
Somalian warlord vs Somalian warlord?

How can it be world peace when these conflicts aren't resolved?

Funny how people decry racism yet support open abortion and population control. That's all eugenics based race science. The same people who are now saying that there's too many people are the same ones who were saying that blacks and whites shouldn't breed back in the 19th-20th.

I'd say most people who talk about race are not referring to skull shape. Then again, we're talking about the same people who have forced to update the dictionary to say that literally also can mean figuratively. Do terriers and dalmatians have skull differences? Maybe, but I doubt people use that to distinguish them. There are easier ways to identify them, I will call the white one with black spots dalmatian and get it over with, even if there may very well be some dogs with that same fur color that aren't actual dalmatians. I know nothing about dogs, after all, other than my sister's is annoying and that they taste good boiled.

Maybe there is no real scientific base to use the biological term "race" when it comes to humans, what do I know. I only had one year of biology in high school, that's far from a professional understanding of the term and if you know of a better explanation, please link me to it as I'm interested (plus I just finished Shadowrun Hong Kong and have yet to start something else, so I have time). As far as my current understanding goes however, it does make sense to apply races to humans; and in that case it may very well have become a word that no longer means what it was originally meant to mean. Confusing as that is when I try to put it in writing.

Abortion isn't eugenics in most cases. As I've already mentioned, it does happen, but it's not the normal reason for having an abortion.

As far as population control, China is the only nation in the world that engages in that, and the restrictions mainly fall on the majority ethnic group.
Right, but that's an even more social construct that has nothing to do with genetics. Between the blood quantum rule and the completely arbitrary dividing line between the groups, it's just not something that you can point to solid research to support.

I believe what is trying to be said here is that insofar as genetics goes, there is no support for the concept of "race". I believe the statistic is something along the lines of the similarties between the DNA of one human and another being on average over 99.9%, and it is just as likely that if you compare yours with a person of the same race, and then someone of a different race, the same race person may be genetically MORE different.
Whether or not we know what DNA markers represent what is irrelevant. There is no fixed sequence or set we can look at and say "These represent a black person" or "These represent a hispanic person".

The topic in this thread really jumps around :D.

I think we are starting to digress from our main goal and going rather hostyle with each other.

Hilarious, nefarious nazi white supremacists, you better watch out they're comin' to get ya! I mean they're f*ckin' everywhere man! Neonazi white supremacists, everywhere!!

Yeah! We should all be down-repping [Vainamoinen].

I like to think of it as the forum's Controversial Conversational Free-For-All Thread.