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Darvond: Gravy? I mean it might be brown like gravy, and liquid like gravy, but that's not gravy.
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rampancy: Indeed. But that particular issue is a big problem with the other major console platforms too. Sony must be making a killing off their VR gear and accessories.

Anyway. I'll still be only mildly interested in the Switch. The only Nintendo product I actually would have bought was the NES Classic Edition, but Nintendo's asinine policy towards selling it has demonstrated to me that they simply do not want my money (what little I have left of it anyway).

Oh well. More money for GOG and Humble, I guess.
Give Sony credit where it is due, VR is something people actually want., and have wanted since before I was born. Whack ass controllers with tiny Wiimotes built into them plus some dumb rumble system that'll just drain batteries like the Game Gear is not.
All it comes down to is if there is a game I want to play on it bad enough then I will buy it. Right now no. I don't care about the other features and functionality, social online craps.
Post edited January 13, 2017 by eksasol
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Pheace: So, so far lobby and voice chat 'appears' to be tied to the android app they're linking with the switch? I really hope they just designed their website poorly and have those options native on the switch as well.

The "free" games with the online subscription thing sounded like they were copying Sony/MS till you read a bit further and saw that not only was it a NES or SNES game every month, but you only get access to it for 1 month...
Yeah, you get to keep the games on PS+ as long as you subscribe. As for the communication kerfuffle, they can't have intercommunicated on such a universal level; as taking a look at the Splatoon site reveals the indication that they actually meant what they said.

Nintendo may be very bad at communication, but I don't think Bill Trinen would get things wrong.
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Darvond: Nintendo was acting like it was 2006 where transferring digital purchases to a new system is an impossibility.
I transferred things no problem, what problem did you run into?
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Darvond: Nintendo was acting like it was 2006 where transferring digital purchases to a new system is an impossibility.
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SirPrimalform: I transferred things no problem, what problem did you run into?
As mentioned, broken system. As in "in half".
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Darvond: I'd much rather have a new Wipeout, F-Zero, or even a traditional racing game without any dumb licence tied to it.
Then you should play Fast Racing Neo on the WiiU. It's fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e97FgfJh-xY

Or you wait for the updated version Fast Racing RMX for the Nintendo Switch.

http://fast.shinen.com/rmx/
Post edited January 13, 2017 by seppelfred
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Gandos: - Speaking of Zelda, its trailer was easily one of the highlights of the whole presentation. The game is simply looking phenomenal. After years of mishandling the series, it appears Nintendo is finally getting it right. It will be a system seller, no doubt about it.
I agree with a lot of your points, but I think Zelda is looking horrible. How many years of mishandling do you mean? I mean Twilight Princess was a bit of a low point, but Skyward Sword and Link Between Worlds were great. Admittedly I would rather have had another single player Zelda than Triforce Heroes, but overall the series has been looking up lately. Until now obviously, I don't want Zeldar Scrolls: Breath of the Skyrim.
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SirPrimalform: I transferred things no problem, what problem did you run into?
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Darvond: As mentioned, broken system. As in "in half".
As in left/right or top/bottom? Presumably it wouldn't switch on anyway.
And what, did Nintendo refuse to transfer stuff or something?
Post edited January 13, 2017 by SirPrimalform
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Darvond: Give Sony credit where it is due, VR is something people actually want., and have wanted since before I was born. Whack ass controllers with tiny Wiimotes built into them plus some dumb rumble system that'll just drain batteries like the Game Gear is not.
Granted, PSVR seems to be the most accessible consumer VR platform out there on the market, but I've read/seen criticism that Sony is overcharging for its PS Move controllers, which are apparently outdated.

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Darvond: Nintendo may be very bad at communication...
It's absolutely true that Nintendo screwed the pooch when it came to communicating how and why the WiiU's features were supposed to be meaningful to the public. However, I do give Nintendo credit for clearly communicating in their initial teaser trailer what the Switch is, and how you're supposed to use it.

As for everything else...well, we'll see. But I hope it doesn't bomb. I really don't want the Switch to be Nintendo's Saturn or Dreamcast. There's needs to be meaningful competition in the console marketplace for Sony/MS.
I would prefer they have released the NES Classic Edition Mini in larger quantities. Can't find it anymore.
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Darvond: Give Sony credit where it is due, VR is something people actually want., and have wanted since before I was born. Whack ass controllers with tiny Wiimotes built into them plus some dumb rumble system that'll just drain batteries like the Game Gear is not.
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rampancy: Granted, PSVR seems to be the most accessible consumer VR platform out there on the market, but I've read/seen criticism that Sony is overcharging for its PS Move controllers, which are apparently outdated.

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Darvond: Nintendo may be very bad at communication...
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rampancy: It's absolutely true that Nintendo screwed the pooch when it came to communicating how and why the WiiU's features were supposed to be meaningful to the public. However, I do give Nintendo credit for clearly communicating in their initial teaser trailer what the Switch is, and how you're supposed to use it.

As for everything else...well, we'll see. But I hope it doesn't bomb. I really don't want the Switch to be Nintendo's Saturn or Dreamcast. There's needs to be meaningful competition in the console marketplace for Sony/MS.
Personally, I don't find much realm for consoles. Especially at this point when one of them is a frankendevice probably running modded Android on ARM, and the others are x64 PCs with caveats running a bastard version of Windows on one, and the other running a strange version of BSD. (The latter has been hacked to literally run Linux.)

With Nintendo having gone full gimmick this time around, with about 400+ USD to get in the door, while I wish no ill will on Nintendo, I can't exactly say I'm going to dust off the pom-poms and cheer them on.
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Gandos: - Speaking of Zelda, its trailer was easily one of the highlights of the whole presentation. The game is simply looking phenomenal. After years of mishandling the series, it appears Nintendo is finally getting it right. It will be a system seller, no doubt about it.
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SirPrimalform: I agree with a lot of your points, but I think Zelda is looking horrible. How many years of mishandling do you mean? I mean Twilight Princess was a bit of a low point, but Skyward Sword and Link Between Worlds were great. Admittedly I would rather have had another single player Zelda than Triforce Heroes, but overall the series has been looking up lately. Until now obviously, I don't want Zeldar Scrolls: Breath of the Skyrim.
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Darvond: As mentioned, broken system. As in "in half".
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SirPrimalform: As in left/right or top/bottom? Presumably it wouldn't switch on anyway.
And what, did Nintendo refuse to transfer stuff or something?
I didn't have another system to transfer to. Full stop.
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Darvond: I'd much rather have a new Wipeout, F-Zero, or even a traditional racing game without any dumb licence tied to it.
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seppelfred: Then you should play Fast Racing Neo on the WiiU. It's fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e97FgfJh-xY

Or you wait for the updated version Fast Racing RMX for the Nintendo Switch.

http://fast.shinen.com/rmx/
One is a system I don't have and don't plan to purchase.

The other is a system I'm not going to buy and won't have.

Let's try a platform relevant to my interests.
Post edited January 13, 2017 by Darvond
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Darvond: One is a system I don't have and don't plan to purchase.

The other is a system I'm not going to buy and won't have.

Let's try a platform relevant to my interests.
Then why are you even posting in this thread?
I actually quite like my Wii U, and absolutely love my 3DS. The Switch is looking pretty weak where it comes to launch titles, whether I'd buy it will depend on what Nintendo does with it. If it does turn out to be just a successor to the Wii U I might buy it eventually or not, if they discontinue their handheld DS line and stick only with the Switch, which is very likely, I might just have to get the Switch. I had more fun with the DS and 3DS than I did with a lot of consoles, certainly way more than with any of this generation, plus handheld gaming fits very well with my lifestyle. But I can't help but be skeptical of its potential as a handheld. Will the battery last long enough? How huge is that thing? My 3DS isn't one of the XL ones, it fits in my pocket, would I really need a backpack everytime I left the house with a Switch?

Let's just say I'm rooting for a proper 3DS successor to come along. The very least I can do is wait for the inevitable Switch 2.0 version, like all the different versions of the DS and 3DS, and see if they iron out some of the problems and hopefully make it more portable.


As for the games:

Zelda looks great

Mario looks great, seeing him next to more realistically proportioned humans is super weird, but then again all of Mario is super weird, so go for it.

Xenoblade 2 looks great. So let me get this straight, the series goes: Xenoblade Chronicles->Xenoblade Chronicles X->Xenoblade 2. Yeah, it's a bit confusing, but from the trailer I gather this one might be set on the same world of the first, unlike X.


SMT is bound to be pretty good. I read elsewhere that Atlus itself said they "just started development", so this is less of a game announcement and more of a pledge to support the system, like that Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem they announced several years ago to only be delivered, in a very different form than expected, last year. Yeah, there's no "Only on Switch" anywhere to be seen which does make me think it's coming to other platforms too, but on the other hand, Atlus hates spending a lot of resources on graphics and the Switch is the weakest system in the market. Let us not forget all the games that they released on the DS and 3DS, including the latest installment of their chief franchise, plus they also did a brand new RPG for the Wii U as well, they might just stick with Nintendo on this, it will depend on how much the Switch sells and how much money Nintendo is willing to give them.


Splatoon 2. I was considering taking the discount available this week and finally give the first one a chance, but I don't know how many matches I'll still find online, and now hearing about this new one I don't know if I should even bother.

Fire Emblem Warriors. I loved Hyrule Warriors, it really got me interested in the whole Musou genre, considering I also like Fire Emblem this looks like a perfect match.
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DaCostaBR: Fire Emblem Warriors. I loved Hyrule Warriors, it really got me interested in the whole Musou genre, considering I also like Fire Emblem this looks like a perfect match.
Damn, I didn't even make that connection. I was assuming a new FE game.
I thought it was odd when they said it was made by Tecmo Koei...

That should be pretty awesome then, I still really need to get Hyrule Warriors...

Looking at the games at the end it looks like there might be a Samurai Warriors or Dynasty Warriors coming too (at least it looked like Nobunaga or Cao Cao, could be Nobunaga's Ambition or something too I suppose)
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Darvond: One is a system I don't have and don't plan to purchase.

The other is a system I'm not going to buy and won't have.

Let's try a platform relevant to my interests.
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seppelfred: Then why are you even posting in this thread?
As someone who was raised on the NES, and owned a SNES, N64, and Gamecube, along with a Brickboy, a Color, the SP, a DS Lite, a DSi & XL, and the 3DS & XL, I feel I might have a small right to opinion on how I feel Nintendo went full stupid around the time Reggie became a major figure in the company.
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Darvond: I didn't have another system to transfer to. Full stop.
I'm not really sure what you expected then. Your complaint was that you couldn't transfer your games - as it turns out the reason you couldn't do that is because you didn't have anything to transfer to, making your complaint rather strange.