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vicklemos: DONTCHA EVAH

NEVER

Neeeever buy a console at launch!
Naaahhh, Got a Megadrive/Genesis and Game Boy at their launch back in the days, I never regretted it :P

Attached pic: the packs we got back then, just to tease the youngsters. :o)
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Tallima: And that's it? 80 titles in development. I'll pass. I see this thing being a money sink for no real enterment value.
I'm hoping the thing gets cracked open. Like it's found to be running some Linux/Android system. And that the Pro-Controller can be paired to a PC.
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vicklemos: DONTCHA EVAH

NEVER

Neeeever buy a console at launch!
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catpower1980: Naaahhh, Got a Megadrive/Genesis and Game Boy at their launch back in the days, I never regretted it :P

Attached pic: the packs we got back then, just to tease the youngsters. :o)
I know it can't be the utmost premise. Just picture a 9yr old kid getting home with that glorious box and puttin' Altered Beast... just... just picture that kid listening to that POWER UP while a plethora of baddies get near and whoa I'm thrilled ;P
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vicklemos: DONTCHA EVAH

NEVER

Neeeever buy a console at launch!
At least until the first few patches and reworks.

Switches get stitches.
Some of the reactions I've seen around the internet make me sad. Not in a "Nintendo is gr8 and y'all haters" way, but the same kind of sad I imagine I'd feel if they had walked out onto the stage and wept inconsolably the whole time.

They seem to be in great need of a hug. And a lashing. And maybe a consultant who's seen gaming in the past 20 years instead of being trapped in the Nintendo-branded windowless cells that their every decision further convinces me actually exist.
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Tallima: And that's it? 80 titles in development. I'll pass. I see this thing being a money sink for no real enterment value.
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Darvond: I'm hoping the thing gets cracked open. Like it's found to be running some Linux/Android system. And that the Pro-Controller can be paired to a PC.
IIRC, some of the rumors swirling around was that it actually was using a heavily customized version of Android (or at least something Linux based), running on the latest nVidia Tegra SoC.

As for the rest...yeah. I think pretty much everyone else have pointed out why Nintendo could be in genuinely serious trouble with the Switch. I personally like the idea behind the hardware, but there are so many places for them to potentially screw it up (like battery life).

As for storage...well, it's clear as day to me that they're still going all-in on going back to that accessory gravy train. At least they didn't go with some proprietary memory card format...
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vicklemos: DONTCHA EVAH

NEVER

Neeeever buy a console at launch!
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Titanium: At least until the first few patches and reworks.

Switches get stitches.
Sorry but ton of folks will "hi there twitch it's me mitch and I'll stream from my twitch" and oh I'm dead inside already ;(
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adaliabooks: Haven't watched the presentation yet, but surely internal storage isn't really necessary if they've gone back to cartridges? For downloading whole games sure, but for all the bits of save files they stay with the game on the cart presumably.

Price doesn't sound too bad, cheaper would be nice of course but for a brand new console it sounds about right.

Do we know what the specs are like? Are we actually talking parity with other consoles for once?

It will probably be the first Nintendo console I don't buy at release since the GameCube, but I'm still cautiously optimistic about it.
It's basically an NVidia Shield with a Nintendo-locked OS. That's the real kicker. It's a slightly more powerful tablet than the one I have now. Really think Nintendo went the wrong way with this one, and it will show.
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Darvond: I'm hoping the thing gets cracked open. Like it's found to be running some Linux/Android system. And that the Pro-Controller can be paired to a PC.
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rampancy: IIRC, some of the rumors swirling around was that it actually was using a heavily customized version of Android (or at least something Linux based), running on the latest nVidia Tegra SoC.

As for the rest...yeah. I think pretty much everyone else have pointed out why Nintendo could be in genuinely serious trouble with the Switch. I personally like the idea behind the hardware, but there are so many places for them to potentially screw it up (like battery life).

As for storage...well, it's clear as day to me that they're still going all-in on going back to that accessory gravy train. At least they didn't go with some proprietary memory card format...
Gravy? I mean it might be brown like gravy, and liquid like gravy, but that's not gravy.
Ok, seen the presentation now. Here's my thoughts (a bit random as I jotted stuff down while watching):

It's times like these you really miss Iwata... :(

What the hell are all the flashing light shows?
Iwata did fun, not business presentations...

I have to say... they've got some things right. Simple stuff, like the logo (I love it, and the click as they slot together).

And it has got a touchscreen, I'm pleased about that as I think it's the best innovation that Nintendo have added to gaming in the past few years with all their gimmicks. But it's nice to see they've kept the motion sensors too, in both Joycons. It means backwards compatibility (with digital virtual console games anyway) will be possible with a whole host of games (and proper two handed, dual analog stick, motion controls, which the Wii couldn't do)
The HD Rumble / Haptic feedback seems interesting too.

It's basically like they've just combined every console they've ever made... which isn't exactly a bad thing.

I still like it. I just don't think I'm it's target audience.

This (like many Nintendo consoles) is a local multiplayer machine. Being able to play two player games with one controller, being able to connect 8 consoles for local multiplayer (expensive, but if you have friends with the system anyway it would make a great party game machine if everyone brings one over), it's all geared for party play and local multiplayer...

There's a lot to like though. A lot of the games are looking good (I'm fairly sure I saw a F-Zero clip in the games reel at the end), the Square one with the 3D pixel graphics looks pretty great. Zelda looks awesome, as does Xenoblade. Fire Emblem can't really go wrong. Even the new Mario looks a bit more interesting.

I think the seller for me would be if they allowed subscription access to the Virtual Console with their paid internet stuff. (I know someone mentioned 1 game per month or something?). I wouldn't mind paying a small amount per month if I could play the whole catalogue of SNES / N64 etc. games as that's still Nintendo's biggest advantage if they could only leverage it correctly...

All in all, I doubt I'll get one at release.. but maybe come Christmas time it might be worth buying it.
My impressions after the presentation are kind of mixed. While it was decent enough not to sour my interest in the system, Nintendo has indeed made some odd decisions and missteps.

The price really is on the high side, particularly outside the US. I thought $250 would have been the sweet spot in terms of value; it would have also given the Switch a leg up over the competition. As it stands, I expect the price to have a detrimental effect on the system's sales performance before it gets lowered to a more reasonable level.

Accessories are also quite expensive ($90 for an additional dock? Really?), but then, hardware manufacturers in general love to overprice these kind of supplementary items.

Paid online service is expected, but extremely unfortunate. Considering how much Sony has profited from putting their own multiplayer service behind a paywall, I guess I can't blame Nintendo for doing the same. But even so, if they had to introduce a paid service, I think a PS3-style solution, with a barebones basic online experience for everyone and additional features and benefits for premium customers, would have been much preferable.

I don't see internal storage as a big issue. Sure, 32 GB is fairly limited, but since the system uses cartridges for its physical media, games won't require installation. So there's no need for the 500 GB - 1 TB hard drives that the PS4/Xbone need to have. While more would have been nice for people who primarily buy games digitally, people like that are likely to have or buy a MicroSD card to begin with anyway.

Battery life is unsurprising and disappointing, but it's also the one area where I can't blame Nintendo themselves. As much as mobile technology has grown by leaps and bounds in recent years, the one area where development has been fairly stagnant have been the batteries. In a way, it makes the Switch the embodiment of recent trends in mobile development, packing a surprising amount of power and features in a small form factor, but at the price of not being able to hold a charge for long. At least Nintendo was smart enough to adopt USB-C, which will at least cut down on charging times. Still, the prospect of buying battery packs does not fill me with joy. =(

As for the games lineup, my impressions in that regard are actually not that bad. Some thoughts in no particular order:

- I agree that '1-2-Switch' should have been a pack-in game. I like the concept of a mini-game collection that emphasises local multiplayer on the go, but so far, I really don't get the impression that it will be something worth buying separately.

- I'm not really sure what to think of 'Arms' yet. The fact that you need both JoyCon controllers in order to play it seriously undermines its appeal. That said, a more in-depth version of Wii Boxing could have potential to be quite fun and interesting. Also, early impressions from those who have attended the Tokyo event are quite positive. We'll have to see.

- Splatoon 2 supporting up to 8 Switches is awesome. If Nintendo takes the extra step and allows for game sharing (i.e. allowing a single cartridge to run the game on multiple systems), I think it would turn the game into a really fantastic local multiplayer experience. Also, speaking personally, I'm happy that the game supports motion controls, since that's the only way I would be interested in a console shooter. That said, they missed the boat by not calling the game 'Splatwoon' or 'Spla2oon' instead. =P

- The launch lineup is, admittedly, quite weak (then again, they usually are). But it does contain some interesting titles. In addition to Zelda, the two games that particularly caught my attention are Super Bomberman R and Puyo Puyo Tetris. If executed well, those two titles could really offer some strong local multiplayer experiences on the Switch from the get go.

- Speaking of Zelda, its trailer was easily one of the highlights of the whole presentation. The game is simply looking phenomenal. After years of mishandling the series, it appears Nintendo is finally getting it right. It will be a system seller, no doubt about it.

- As for the lineup in general, it's honestly pretty decent. There's a fair bit of variety, both in terms of genres and in terms of new and old titles. One thing that particularly caught my attention was the emphasis on RPGs. Between Dragon Quest XI, Shin Megami Tensei, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and the new title from Silicon Studio (and arguably I Am Setsuna, but I've heard that game is bad), the Switch is already looking quite appealing to JRPG fans (though, granted, that is a niche market).

As for what I think will happen to the Switch...Like I mentioned above, I expect it will stumble somewhat out of the gate due to its high price point. But as more titles are released on the platform and the system becomes cheaper (whether through a price cut or retailer deals), I think it will gain momentum. Despite the misgivings this presentation raised, I think the system has a solid concept and enough compelling software forthcoming that it's unlikely to bomb.

I don't think it will be the phenomenon that the NES and Wii were (and frankly, given the poorer economic conditions, that was impossible to begin with), but I can see it being decently successful akin to the SNES and GBA.
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Darvond: Gravy? I mean it might be brown like gravy, and liquid like gravy, but that's not gravy.
Indeed. But that particular issue is a big problem with the other major console platforms too. Sony must be making a killing off their VR gear and accessories.

Anyway. I'll still be only mildly interested in the Switch. The only Nintendo product I actually would have bought was the NES Classic Edition, but Nintendo's asinine policy towards selling it has demonstrated to me that they simply do not want my money (what little I have left of it anyway).

Oh well. More money for GOG and Humble, I guess.
Pretty much all the negative stuff has been pointed out here already so won't go into those.

But.

It's pretty much what I'm looking for so I preordered one. I mainly play on PC and Wii U anymore while PS4/XboxOne has been collecting dust most of the time, so if exclusives rolls even little like on Wii U, I'll be happy with it. To be honest, I'd probably have preordered it for the Zelda and the new Mario alone.. If I'd get it to be my only gaming system, then I might think differently, but as I'm not, I'm rather happy about it.
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rampancy: ...
As for storage...well, it's clear as day to me that they're still going all-in on going back to that accessory gravy train. At least they didn't go with some proprietary memory card format...
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Darvond: Gravy? I mean it might be brown like gravy, and liquid like gravy, but that's not gravy.
Call it what you will, but it's a tactic game console manufacturers have used ( and abused ) for decades now. As far as I know it's actually one of their primary sources of income.

As for the Switch in general: I used to be cautiously optimistic, but I guess I'm... cautiously pessimistic now? Too expensive, quite possibly underpowered, and not nearly enough interesting games, at least not in the foreseeable future. Might give it a closer look another 6 to 12 months from now, if the price and selection of games has improved by then.
So, so far lobby and voice chat 'appears' to be tied to the android app they're linking with the switch? I really hope they just designed their website poorly and have those options native on the switch as well.

The "free" games with the online subscription thing sounded like they were copying Sony/MS till you read a bit further and saw that not only was it a NES or SNES game every month, but you only get access to it for 1 month...