Posted April 28, 2016

sunshinecorp
Ordained Dudeist
Registered: Jul 2011
From Greece

Shadowstalker16
Jaded optimist
Registered: Apr 2014
From India
Posted April 28, 2016
I still regret not becoming a cryptocoin prospector during the boom. Take a house loan or something and buy up a whole farm of them R9 290Xs and would've probably paid them back in a few moths.

amrit9037
New User
Registered: Jun 2013
From Other
Posted April 28, 2016
BTW anyone who think real money is better choice then think again.

sunshinecorp
Ordained Dudeist
Registered: Jul 2011
From Greece
Posted April 28, 2016
Just like every other financial venture, it was a risk and there was no real way to know. Same could be said for Apple and IBM stocks back in the day. Don't beat yourself over it.

Bad Hair Day
Find me in STEAM OT
Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Posted April 28, 2016
I used to get Dominoes once a week, before I moved 300 miles from the nearest one.

omega64
Something good
Registered: Apr 2012
From Netherlands

A_Future_Pilot
That Guy
Registered: May 2009
From United States

ValamirCleaver
Paladin
Registered: Dec 2012
From United States
Posted April 28, 2016

I need to brainstorm how I could convince enough people to buy into a multi-level marketing/pyramid sales/Ponzi scheme to accept Axis & Allies IPC certificates, Monopoly money, Amway//Herbalife//Mary Kay/Vima products as mediums of exchange...

sunshinecorp
Ordained Dudeist
Registered: Jul 2011
From Greece
Posted April 28, 2016
But... they suck.
Well... or just privacy. Why does it always have to be "money laundering" this "tax evasion" that "terroririst financing" this and the other. It's a way to keep your business, your business.
Well... or just privacy. Why does it always have to be "money laundering" this "tax evasion" that "terroririst financing" this and the other. It's a way to keep your business, your business.
Post edited April 28, 2016 by sunshinecorp

Oriza-Triznyák
garbage features like achievements.
Registered: Apr 2009
From Other
Posted April 28, 2016
Big Fish Games accept Bitcoins since two years .
Looks like Gabe really need any type of money ( real or virtual ) . Something must be wrong with Valve / Steam .
Looks like Gabe really need any type of money ( real or virtual ) . Something must be wrong with Valve / Steam .
Post edited April 28, 2016 by Painted_Doll

Starmaker
go Clarice!
Registered: Sep 2010
From Russian Federation
Posted April 28, 2016

Gold is a commodity. It's valuable because it has uses as a manufacturing material and you can count on people needing it.
The US Dollar is currency. It's valuable because there's a place where people live who are forced to use US Dollars when they trade for goods and services and give away a number of US Dollars each year or go to jail. Also, because it's actively managed and if the managers fuck up, they're likely to be held accountable.
The Russian Rouble is currency. It's not particularly valuable because the government doesn't enforce the above as consistently as it should: deals are concluded in USD-equivalent "arbitrary units" and taxes aren't being paid. Also, because it's managed and if the managers fuck up -- oh wait they did -- they'll laugh and pour more champagne.
Nothing about that is made up and arbitrary. Gold is real. Food is real. Labor camps are real.
Now Bitcoins aren't a currency. They're a commodity which is fucking useless by itself. And no, it's not private. All transactions are public record by design. If you try to shuffle the coins between several wallets of yours, they're still traceable because the cluster of interconnected wallets lights up like a supernova under even remotely competent data analysis. If third-party wallets are involved, you're entrusting your funds AND your privacy to an unregulated third party. And once you pay with bitcoins from a wallet for something that you interact with non-anonymously, there you are.
Post edited April 28, 2016 by Starmaker

sunshinecorp
Ordained Dudeist
Registered: Jul 2011
From Greece
Posted April 28, 2016

Gold is a commodity. It's valuable because it has uses as a manufacturing material and you can count on people needing it.
The US Dollar is currency. It's valuable because there's a place where people live who are forced to use US Dollars when they trade for goods and services and give away a number of US Dollars each year or go to jail.
The Russian Rouble is currency. It's not particularly valuable because the government doesn't enforce the above as consistently as it should: deals are concluded in USD-equivalent "arbitrary units" and taxes aren't being paid.
Nothing about that is made up and arbitrary. Gold is real. Food is real. Labor camps are real.
Now Bitcoins aren't a currency. They're a commodity which is fucking useless by itself. And no, it's not private. All transactions are public record by design. If you try to shuffle the coins between several wallets of yours, they're still traceable because the cluster of interconnected wallets lights up like a supernova under even remotely competent data analysis. If third-party wallets are involved, you're entrusting your funds AND your privacy to an unregulated third party. And once you pay with bitcoins from a wallet for something that you interact with non-anonymously, there you are.
The exact same thing goes for everything that gives you privacy. Take Tor for example. Sure, you're anonymous in Tor. Until you log into that email account of yours while doing other stuff that you want to keep private and still on the same identity.
That's user error. Not protocol error. You OBVIOUSLY shouldn't go on Silk Road with the same wallet you go on Steam. :P A good resource to read is: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Anonymity and you can use services like https://bitlaunder.com/ (just an example, not vouching for its effectiveness) through a tor onion address.
As for the need of gold as a commodity in production, that's still arbitrary. You could choose pizza as a commodity in sustenance and value a currency system on that. I'm exaggerating of course, but only to illustrate a point. Currencies have the value humans CHOOSE to tie them down to.
Post edited April 28, 2016 by sunshinecorp

johnnygoging
I was told there would always be a bigger fish
Registered: Jun 2013
From Canada
Posted April 28, 2016


Gold is a commodity. It's valuable because it has uses as a manufacturing material and you can count on people needing it.
The US Dollar is currency. It's valuable because there's a place where people live who are forced to use US Dollars when they trade for goods and services and give away a number of US Dollars each year or go to jail.
The Russian Rouble is currency. It's not particularly valuable because the government doesn't enforce the above as consistently as it should: deals are concluded in USD-equivalent "arbitrary units" and taxes aren't being paid.
Nothing about that is made up and arbitrary. Gold is real. Food is real. Labor camps are real.
Now Bitcoins aren't a currency. They're a commodity which is fucking useless by itself. And no, it's not private. All transactions are public record by design. If you try to shuffle the coins between several wallets of yours, they're still traceable because the cluster of interconnected wallets lights up like a supernova under even remotely competent data analysis. If third-party wallets are involved, you're entrusting your funds AND your privacy to an unregulated third party. And once you pay with bitcoins from a wallet for something that you interact with non-anonymously, there you are.
by your logic, USD are a commodity if I'm anywhere but the US.
I honestly don't understand how so much of GOG became so against Valve.
was it just Steam?
did you guys ever play Half-Life or CS?
Post edited April 28, 2016 by johnnygoging

bluesky777
New User
Registered: Jul 2012
From United Kingdom
Posted April 28, 2016
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TDP
New User
Registered: Dec 2013
From Canada
Posted April 28, 2016

The U.S. dollar (or Yen, Rupee, etc.) on the other hand is as made up and arbitrary as it gets. Well each U.S. dollar used to be bound to a specified amount of gold, but not any more. It may as well be monopoly money.