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Posted October 20, 2015
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darthspudius: The Clone Wars is a great show! Much better than Return of the Jedi.
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Emob78: Luke -
"My father fought in the Clone Wars?"

End stop. All stop engines. Luke didn't need to say another word, nor did we ever need to have that blank filled in. At that point, every single SW fan on Earth had a better image in their head of what that meant than anything Lucas or ILM or Disney could ever hope to replicate. Never underestimate the power of imagination... nor the power of marketing that attempts to appropriate it.

The ultimate sin Lucas accosted us with was taking off Vader's helmet. No more helmet, no more mystery. No more mystery, no more myth. No more myth, no more point. There is no more mystery to Star Wars - only endless repetition. Clones, in fact and metaphor.
Well that is very narrow minded. Especially considering the show is more grown up than 4/6 of the Star Wars movies and has a better plot over all.
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Emob78: Bantha piss.
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Kardwill: If that's the case, could you direct me to the nearest Bantha herder. I need to buy piss in bulk.

(Frankly, my personal opinion is that Clone Wars was the best thing that happened to Star Wars since the original movies. And the new "Rebels" series is a kid show and not very visually impressive, but it shows promise)
By the end of Season 1 Rebels, it got quite interesting. I like where they're going with it. It went from kid friendly to quite dark very fast lol.
Post edited October 20, 2015 by darthspudius
Posted October 20, 2015
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Emob78: Luke -
"My father fought in the Clone Wars?"

End stop. All stop engines. Luke didn't need to say another word, nor did we ever need to have that blank filled in. At that point, every single SW fan on Earth had a better image in their head of what that meant than anything Lucas or ILM or Disney could ever hope to replicate. Never underestimate the power of imagination... nor the power of marketing that attempts to appropriate it.
I kinda happen to agree that things don't need any more explanation, that imagination powered those movies. No need to know what a Bothan is, or how big (or small) the Empire really is, you could build some pretty awesome universe out of what happened and was said during them. I personally hate the whole "expanded universe" and novelization thing because it tried to fill every hole, and generally was in conflict with my headcanon.
But that's the risk of every sequel out there. Either you leave the original work untouched, or you try to continue creating in it at the risk of having your sequel/prequel/novel conflicting with peoples' "fill the gaps" headcanon.

With that said, though, even if it's not really NEEDED, the Clone Wars series happened to be a great show in itself. It didn't just surf on Star Wars prequels' popularity, it was actually good. So your "Bantha piss" comment was a little harsh. Unless there are specific things you disliked in them?
Post edited October 20, 2015 by Kardwill
Posted October 20, 2015
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tort1234: So lets see what the producers and directors have done to promote political correctness in this movie.

Have a female protagonist that kicks ass, is smart, badass, strong yadda yadda yadda.....check
Have a minority stormtrooper character as a main character to appease minorities.....check
Have a white male as the bad guy, cant have anyone else or the outrage from PC brigade....check

Suffice to say, this movie is not getting any of my money.

Excuse me while I go watch The Raid Redemption or the first expendables that does not have this girl power crap or PC propaganda shoved into it.
The force of stupidity is strong in you...

I would like to know what Princess Leia Organa (strong female protagonist), Lando Calrissian (minority main character) or Grand Moff Tarkin (white bad guy) would say to a troll like you...
Posted October 20, 2015
People, really... Clone Wars sucked. Hard. Unless we're talking about the original series by Gendy Tartakovsky. The CGI one was poorly written, mostly boring, with awful characters. Somehow in Ahsoka they managed to create a character even more annoying than Jar-Jar. I'm pretty sure that's not even legal.
Posted October 20, 2015
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Breja: People, really... Clone Wars sucked. Hard. Unless we're talking about the original series by Gendy Tartakovsky. The CGI one was poorly written, mostly boring, with awful characters. Somehow in Ahsoka they managed to create a character even more annoying than Jar-Jar. I'm pretty sure that's not even legal.
Don't suppose you only watched the first season? cause it was a ropey start.
Posted October 20, 2015
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viperfdl: The force of stupidity is strong in you...

I would like to know what Princess Leia Organa (strong female protagonist), Lando Calrissian (minority main character) or Grand Moff Tarkin (white bad guy) would say to a troll like you...
As far as I'm concerned, star wars died when they removed darth vader's helmet and revealed that he wasn't really black.

Damn pc swj propaganda.
Posted October 20, 2015
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Breja: People, really... Clone Wars sucked. Hard. Unless we're talking about the original series by Gendy Tartakovsky. The CGI one was poorly written, mostly boring, with awful characters. Somehow in Ahsoka they managed to create a character even more annoying than Jar-Jar. I'm pretty sure that's not even legal.
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darthspudius: Don't suppose you only watched the first season? cause it was a ropey start.
Oh, the start was absolute shit. That movie they started with was godawful. I quit at about half way point, sometime during season 3. I checked out some episodes from the latter seasons, but wasn't impressed with them either. There was some good stuff in that show, but not much. Definately nothing to warrant the praise the series gets. Rebels got way better in one season than Clone Wars in three and a half (or possibly ever, given what I saw of latter seasons). And neither can match the great visual storytelling of Tartakovsky's Clone Wars.
Post edited October 20, 2015 by Breja
Posted October 20, 2015
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Breja: People, really... Clone Wars sucked. Hard. Unless we're talking about the original series by Gendy Tartakovsky. The CGI one was poorly written, mostly boring, with awful characters. Somehow in Ahsoka they managed to create a character even more annoying than Jar-Jar. I'm pretty sure that's not even legal.
I can happily watch any of the prequels and even I couldn't sit through the 3D clone wars series. Everything about it is so wooden.. from the dialogue and acting, the animation and the banal storytelling to the fact everyone looks like they're carved out of actual wood.

My only problem with Genndy's series is that it cost us an ending to Samurai jack. :(
Posted October 20, 2015
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darthspudius: Don't suppose you only watched the first season? cause it was a ropey start.
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Breja: Oh, the start was absolute shit. That movie they started with was godawful. I quit at about half way point, sometime during season 3. I checked out some episodes from the latter seasons, but wasn't impressed with them either. There was some good stuff in that show, but not much. Definately nothing to warrant the praise the series gets. Rebels got way better in one season than Clone Wars in three and a half (or possibly ever, given what I saw of latter seasons). And neither can match the great visual storytelling of Tartakovsky's Clone Wars.
This is completely backwards in my mind haha.
Posted October 20, 2015
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darthspudius: Don't suppose you only watched the first season? cause it was a ropey start.
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Breja: Oh, the start was absolute shit. That movie they started with was godawful. I quit at about half way point, sometime during season 3. I checked out some episodes from the latter seasons, but wasn't impressed with them either. There was some good stuff in that show, but not much. Definately nothing to warrant the praise the series gets. Rebels got way better in one season than Clone Wars in three and a half (or possibly ever, given what I saw of latter seasons). And neither can match the great visual storytelling of Tartakovsky's Clone Wars.
Ah acknowledgement of the 2003 Clone Wars Mini Series.

One of the best parts was this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYI9FDbfk5U
Posted October 20, 2015
I have high hopes, very high hopes!


But low expectations.
Posted October 20, 2015
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Telika: As far as I'm concerned, star wars died when they removed darth vader's helmet and revealed that he wasn't really black.
'Those movies are about how the white man keeps the brother man down, even in a galaxy far, far away.
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And Jedi's the most insulting installment! Because Vader's beautiful black visage is sullied when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty, old white man! They tryin' to tell us that deep inside we all wants to be white!':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L9io-b9Uew#t=0m46s
Posted October 20, 2015
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SSolomon: Its a commercial to sell product. Nothing less, nothing more. Star Wars is never going back to what it was in the 70's and 80's. It was a product of its time. Honestly, its quite disgusting to watch people drool over this carefully designed marketing machine.
Yeah right, as if the original trilogy didn't spawn a vast array of toys, clothing etc. as a result of Lucas' decision to accept a lower salary in exchange for full merchandising rights.
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Telika: Also, he's dressed in white, so he might not be the secret identity of the masked baddie.
That's probably his son then.
Post edited October 20, 2015 by Lemon_Curry
Posted October 20, 2015
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SSolomon: Its a commercial to sell product. Nothing less, nothing more. Star Wars is never going back to what it was in the 70's and 80's. It was a product of its time. Honestly, its quite disgusting to watch people drool over this carefully designed marketing machine.
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Lemon_Curry: Yeah right, as if the original trilogy didn't spawn a vast array of toys, clothing etc. as a result of Lucas' decision to accept a lower salary in exchange for full merchandising rights.
Well Lucas was already turning out be a shallow business man even then. It's no coincidence he had nothing to do with the best SW movie and ROTJ already displayed symptoms of the prequels(pandering to kids,reusing iconic imagery,horrible tonal shifts and so on)
Post edited October 20, 2015 by Mr.Caine
Posted October 20, 2015
it's not that lucas was a shallow business man. he was just a better business man than director.

and in fact, it was even so much that he was such a talent businessman, because why did Lucasarts have so many problems for so long? it was just that lucas had a very prominent fiscal prudence streak. a lot of americans pick this up. or used to anyway. I don't know whatever. anyway

I don't think ROTJ was bad. now people just wanna lucas all over lucas.

jar jar wasn't as bad as people make him out to be.
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