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Timboli: I think you are over simplifying what I mean by deliberate.
The root cause is likely the CDN, but it was GOG's choice to change to that CDN.
So the CDN is likely deliberately slowing my download speed, and GOG are letting them.
I am currently downloading one Baldur's Gate 3 file (part 4) with the Edge browser, getting around 24 MBytes/sec.
If it was deliberate by the CDN to slow it down, why are they doing it only to you, but not me?
And what would the motive of the CDN be to deliberately slow it down for you? Just to spite you?

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Timboli: The fact that someone can change their seeming location via VPN and not get a limited download speed, speaks volumes.
Speaks volumes of what? Again, what would be their motive? Think logically.

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Timboli: Why GOG are doing it, who knows really. But you and I have both speculated it could be due to finances.
GOG choosing to use certain CDN because it gives them maybe a more affordable plan than someone else is still not in my eyes "deliberately" trying to slow down every GOG browser user's download speeds.

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Timboli: It could also be targeting those who don't use Galaxy (or don't use a similar multi-thread program).
I could buy the argument that they are paying more money on Galaxy's CDNs, but I am unsure about that as someone claimed (I think in the lgogdownloader thread) that Galaxy uses Fastly too, so I am unsure right now whether the Galaxy and browser use different CDNs, or not.

As I said, I do get considerably better download speeds with Galaxy (up to 70 MBytes/sec for offline installers, compared to 20-34 with a browser), but if they use the same CDNs, maybe it is then only that Galaxy downloads more efficiently, using several threads etc. Not sure.

Be as it may, I still don't believe that e.g. you getting only 1MBytes/sec download speeds, or some others getting only 400kB/sec, is deliberate by either GOG or Fastly. As in that they are trying their best to make sure you don't get any better download speeds but those are the maximums they want you to be able to download your games with a browser.

But then, for some reason, they let me download with 20-34 MBytes/sec with a browser. Maybe they consider me as their VIP customer or something? :D

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Timboli: It's definitely not due to something I did, and I even doubled my ISP bandwidth about 6 months ago, with no benefit to my GOG download speeds, no change at all. That's says it is a specific speed limit, not percentage based. So it is without a doubt, deliberate ... for reasons unknown at this stage. The only fluctuation is between that slow speed and even slower, sometimes much slower.
No it is not deliberate "without a doubt". It could be a configuration/routing error by either GOG or Fastly that happens to affect you, or bad luck with an overburdened download server. Or, even your ISP having some routing/configuration error that didn't affect the earlier CDN that GOG used "before the crash", but affects the current one.

I don't consider routing and configuration errors as "deliberate". I gave you an example from my work where one client saw much worse transfer (upload) speeds from one of their servers compared to another, and it was not deliberate either, but rather certain cumulative changes in the network that happened to affect them that way. It is still unfixed because the fix means changing the network topology quite a bit, and the change can be quite risky too.
Post edited December 20, 2024 by timppu
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timppu: I am currently downloading one Baldur's Gate 3 file (part 4) with the Edge browser, getting around 24 MBytes/sec.
If it was deliberate by the CDN to slow it down, why are they doing it only to you, but not me?
And what would the motive of the CDN be to deliberately slow it down for you? Just to spite you?
We know you aren't impacted along with many others.
All the evidence and logic points to location as being a factor.
I have no idea, outside of cost, and possibly something to do with some of us not using Galaxy at all, and I never claimed it was out of spite, but who knows really ... maybe they don't like some of my comments in the forum ... even though I try to be balanced when it comes to being negative and positive in regard to GOG.

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timppu: Speaks volumes of what? Again, what would be their motive? Think logically.
I am thinking, extremely logical. Are you?
The logic is processing all the facts I have access to.
Beyond that it can only be speculation based on the known facts and reasonable assumptions.
Nothing I have said opinion wise is set in concrete though.
I am happy to be proved wrong. If only the powers-that-be were more forthcoming.

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timppu: GOG choosing to use certain CDN because it gives them maybe a more affordable plan than someone else is still not in my eyes "deliberately" trying to slow down every GOG browser user's download speeds.
Once again, you are misquoting or misunderstanding me.
I am not claiming they are deliberately reducing my download speed for malicious reasons.
But they are deliberately using a service that they know reduces the download speed for myself and many others to an appalling speed, especially when compared to the speed we used to get, and the very fast speeds that most still get.

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timppu: Be as it may, I still don't believe that e.g. you getting only 1MBytes/sec download speeds, or some others getting only 400kB/sec, is deliberate by either GOG or Fastly. As in that they are trying their best to make sure you don't get any better download speeds but those are the maximums they want you to be able to download your games with a browser.
You must remember two facts - (1) I had a good speed before the CDN crash. (2) Something changed in the aftermath of that CDN crash.

GOG would know what, and possibly Fastly too.

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timppu: But then, for some reason, they let me download with 20-34 MBytes/sec with a browser. Maybe they consider me as their VIP customer or something? :D
Funny man, and I know you aren't serious, but let's consider how they are treating me (and others), when I have been a good customer, with over 2,200 items in my GOG library, and I have spent somewhat over $7,000 AUD at GOG.

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timppu: No it is not deliberate "without a doubt". It could be a configuration/routing error by either GOG or Fastly that happens to affect you, or bad luck with an overburdened download server. Or, even your ISP having some routing/configuration error that didn't affect the earlier CDN that GOG used "before the crash", but affects the current one.
You are expecting myself and others to believe in an awful lot of coincidence, as we are talking about folk from around the globe, not just in Australia or parts of Australia. I feel we have enough facts and evidence to rule out any ISP angle, due to it being multiple ISPs at once across the globe.

You are also taking a big leap and presuming that Fastly certainly, and maybe even GOG, would be ignorant of what is causing our issue.

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timppu: I don't consider routing and configuration errors as "deliberate". I gave you an example from my work where one client saw much worse transfer (upload) speeds from one of their servers compared to another, and it was not deliberate either, but rather certain cumulative changes in the network that happened to affect them that way. It is still unfixed because the fix means changing the network topology quite a bit, and the change can be quite risky too.
I am not ignoring what you've aired, but it seems to me you keep trying to narrow the scope too far, when the facts say you cannot.

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Something weird is happening with my posts, at least one portion is being refused, and I am now trying to add my replies in stages. It seems the forum software has an issue with one sentence I was posting in the second paragraph section. I had to reword the last two lines into three sentences and use different words. Clearly a word or combo of words triggered a denial ... though nothing was a standout as being bad in any real way ... probably an association of the GOG name with another word, though quite innocuous seeming to me.

P.S. I've had my say now, and I have no desire to continue arguing, especially when it is obvious it won't bear fruit to do so ... and I am already penalized enough by this download speed issue, and don't want to waste any more time and effort on it.. I've already started repeating myself, and when that happens it is time to move on. So we are going to have to agree to disagree.
Post edited December 22, 2024 by Timboli