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Cgamer1: first of few pastebins.. for some reason amd radeon software would turn off performance logging. so i had to start it up again..

https://pastebin.com/YSt11nsX

https://pastebin.com/6tzM0B4Q

https://pastebin.com/0NJ5krgB
That's all looking much better.

See another useful read on how to optimise airflow in your case:

https://www.howtogeek.com/303078/how-to-manage-your-pcs-fans-for-optimal-airflow-and-cooling/


I'm struggling to understand the GPU fan speed from the pastebins and your note above - you suggested it runs at 4,500 RPM, but the pastebin is suggesting it's about 220 RPM (I might be misunderstanding the output).

Have you had any crashes yet? At some point, you'll want to take the FPS limit off as well, but you might want to try to play for longer first to see what happens. I'm expecting that the majority of your issues should now be fixed.
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Cgamer1: first of few pastebins.. for some reason amd radeon software would turn off performance logging. so i had to start it up again..

https://pastebin.com/YSt11nsX

https://pastebin.com/6tzM0B4Q

https://pastebin.com/0NJ5krgB
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pds41: That's all looking much better.

See another useful read on how to optimise airflow in your case:

https://www.howtogeek.com/303078/how-to-manage-your-pcs-fans-for-optimal-airflow-and-cooling/

I'm struggling to understand the GPU fan speed from the pastebins and your note above - you suggested it runs at 4,500 RPM, but the pastebin is suggesting it's about 220 RPM (I might be misunderstanding the output).

Have you had any crashes yet? At some point, you'll want to take the FPS limit off as well, but you might want to try to play for longer first to see what happens. I'm expecting that the majority of your issues should now be fixed.
the 4,500 RPM thing was before I started up GSS.. the fan speed also seems random at times. I eventually used your suggestion for two profiles: 40C and 80% fan speed + 70C and 100%. I don't know if that worked. I forgot to mention that I also tried this with the vents on top and front of my case open. I did not try GSS with the vents back on yet. I also forgot to use MSI afterburner's logging history.

There were no crashes but i'm anxious about having one after all this.
Post edited February 23, 2022 by Cgamer1
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Cgamer1: the 4,500 RPM thing was before I started up GSS.. the fan speed also seems random at times. I eventually used your suggestion for two profiles: 40C and 80% fan speed + 70C and 100%. I don't know if that worked. I forgot to mention that I also tried this with the vents on top and front of my case open. I did not try GSS with the vents back on yet. I also forgot to use MSI afterburner's logging history.

There were no crashes but i'm anxious about having one after all this.
Don't worry about a crash at this point. You've done a good deal to increase the resilience of your computer and single temperature led shutdown (if that is what caused the initial crashing) is unlikely to lead to frying the entire system. You will need to overcome that anxiety at some point.

My suggestion is probably to have the temperature overlay from MSI turned on so that you can see the GPU and CPU temps in the upper left corner of the screen. Then, play and see what happens - you should play beyond the time where you have been experiencing crashes to see whether your system is now stable - otherwise you will never know.

Not sure what you mean by vents (not having seen your case, but when you are happy that you have correctly mounted your fans and that you've got good airflow, you should close up your case. (by close up, I mean put the sides back on)
Post edited February 23, 2022 by pds41
I recommend you to use HWiNFO, which is one of the best free software for monitoring your computer. Or GPU-Z, if you're interested in only monitoring the GPU.
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pds41: My suggestion is probably to have the temperature overlay from MSI turned on so that you can see the GPU and CPU temps in the upper left corner of the screen. Then, play and see what happens - you should play beyond the time where you have been experiencing crashes to see whether your system is now stable - otherwise you will never know.

Not sure what you mean by vents (not having seen your case, but when you are happy that you have correctly mounted your fans and that you've got good airflow, you should close up your case. (by close up, I mean put the sides back on)
I've had 4 game sessions so far and they've all seemed to last past an hour without crashing. I've kept an eye on the temperature through the AMD overlay.. The recent one I stopped due to it getting too close to 90C, I do have the log for that. I'm not sure but I think the MSI afterburner overlay would cover some of the game's screen. I don't want to do that.

my case has two pieces of plastic that you cover vents with, you can take them off or keep them on. The first gaming session, i did it with the pieces off. the rest with them on. I never kept the side panel off. Always put that back on.

Unless you want the CSV file, i think I'm going to caulk it down to somewhat solved and just play until i see it hit 80C due to an earlier post that mentions to keep it under that.
I think i spoke too soon.

now the GPU fans aren't coming on again.. i checked the two fans i put in.. the front one was running. the top one was not. but when i put an eraser from a pencil to move the fans, it started running.

two or three gaming sessions of less than 15 minutes because the temp rises quickly, due to the gpu fans not running. perhaps i should open up and look in the case again? maybe the graphic card was the trouble this whole time?
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Cgamer1: I think i spoke too soon.

now the GPU fans aren't coming on again.. i checked the two fans i put in.. the front one was running. the top one was not. but when i put an eraser from a pencil to move the fans, it started running.

two or three gaming sessions of less than 15 minutes because the temp rises quickly, due to the gpu fans not running. perhaps i should open up and look in the case again? maybe the graphic card was the trouble this whole time?
Open it up again. Set a custom fan profile to have the fan running at 80% from about 30 degrees, increasing to 100% at 75 degrees and see what happens (i.e. do the fans actually spin?) You should be able to hear them at this speed.

It could be fan failure on your graphics card. Are they making funny noises when they spin? Might be worth checking what kind of warranty the card came with.
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Cgamer1: I think i spoke too soon.

now the GPU fans aren't coming on again.. i checked the two fans i put in.. the front one was running. the top one was not. but when i put an eraser from a pencil to move the fans, it started running.

two or three gaming sessions of less than 15 minutes because the temp rises quickly, due to the gpu fans not running. perhaps i should open up and look in the case again? maybe the graphic card was the trouble this whole time?
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pds41: Open it up again. Set a custom fan profile to have the fan running at 80% from about 30 degrees, increasing to 100% at 75 degrees and see what happens (i.e. do the fans actually spin?) You should be able to hear them at this speed.

It could be fan failure on your graphics card. Are they making funny noises when they spin? Might be worth checking what kind of warranty the card came with.
I happen to be deaf. Which means I can't hear crap from the fans or whatever. the top fan has somewhat stopped running. i tried the pencil trick again, didn't work. this is sort of frustrating me. you mean run the computer with the side panel open? I could do that.
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pds41: Open it up again. Set a custom fan profile to have the fan running at 80% from about 30 degrees, increasing to 100% at 75 degrees and see what happens (i.e. do the fans actually spin?) You should be able to hear them at this speed.

It could be fan failure on your graphics card. Are they making funny noises when they spin? Might be worth checking what kind of warranty the card came with.
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Cgamer1: I happen to be deaf. Which means I can't hear crap from the fans or whatever. the top fan has somewhat stopped running. i tried the pencil trick again, didn't work. this is sort of frustrating me. you mean run the computer with the side panel open? I could do that.
By open it up again, I meant take the side off so you can look at the card to see if the fans are running. By "top fan", which do you mean? Looking at your card, there should be two fans side by side - are these the ones that aren't spinning?

Not being able to hear will make it more difficult to diagnose - usually, when a fan goes, it's the bearings - and they make a very obvious noise!
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pds41: By open it up again, I meant take the side off so you can look at the card to see if the fans are running. By "top fan", which do you mean? Looking at your card, there should be two fans side by side - are these the ones that aren't spinning?
the fans that I bought. I had to put one in the front of the case and the top of it. the front fan is running nicely. the top fan seemed to run a bit slower at times then stopped.
welp. now three fans aren't running. the video graphics card's fans ran briefly when windows 10 started up. but they did not run when the game was running. and the fan on the top still isn't running.

so i'm guessing. the dang video card's fan never ran at all.

i think i am repeating that froma previous post.

the new one. i don't kknow why. this is truly pissing me off.
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Cgamer1: welp. now three fans aren't running. the video graphics card's fans ran briefly when windows 10 started up. but they did not run when the game was running. and the fan on the top still isn't running.

so i'm guessing. the dang video card's fan never ran at all.

i think i am repeating that froma previous post.

the new one. i don't kknow why. this is truly pissing me off.
It would be odd if you had an issue that solely prevented fans from running. You might be getting to the point where you need to take it in to someone to have a look and see what they think. When you mentioned the GPU fans, I was thinking it could be the GPU, but if your new case fans aren't running and are correctly connected to your PSU, then that's an issue. (I'm assuming you've connected directly to the 4-pin PSU connecter rather than running through motherboard headers)

If the GPU fans aren't running even with a MSI Afterburner custom fan profile set to run them at full speed regardless of temperature, then that's an issue.

It could be PSU, but then I'd expect more system instability than you currently have.
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Cgamer1: welp. now three fans aren't running. the video graphics card's fans ran briefly when windows 10 started up. but they did not run when the game was running. and the fan on the top still isn't running.

so i'm guessing. the dang video card's fan never ran at all.

i think i am repeating that froma previous post.

the new one. i don't kknow why. this is truly pissing me off.
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pds41: It would be odd if you had an issue that solely prevented fans from running. You might be getting to the point where you need to take it in to someone to have a look and see what they think. When you mentioned the GPU fans, I was thinking it could be the GPU, but if your new case fans aren't running and are correctly connected to your PSU, then that's an issue. (I'm assuming you've connected directly to the 4-pin PSU connecter rather than running through motherboard headers)

If the GPU fans aren't running even with a MSI Afterburner custom fan profile set to run them at full speed regardless of temperature, then that's an issue.

It could be PSU, but then I'd expect more system instability than you currently have.
welp. i did take it to a shop, they said i assembled it horribly. lol. my fault, of course, since I followed the instructions. but hey, it's my first real build. they re assembled it and now I'm gonna test GSS again.
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Cgamer1: i did take it to a shop, they said i assembled it horribly.
May I ask what was wrong and what they fixed? I can guess maybe case fans / CPU cooler and heatsink improperly mounted and connected, but other than that?
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Cgamer1: it's my first real build.
Don't sweat it too much. Live and learn, as the saying goes.
I hope all issues are now resolved.
Yeah - I'm with Ice Mage on this. Main thing is that it's fixed and that you've learned something about PC building - every build is easier as you learn more and more.

When you get a chance, let us know what was wrong - and keep and eye on it and make sure it stays fixed. You should take off that frame rate cap too!