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Ice_Mage: AMD graphics drivers.
By default, Ctrl+Shift+L toggles logging; key settings are under Cog wheel - Hotkeys.
Logging settings are under Performance - Metrics.
Logging location is under Cog wheel - Performance.
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Cgamer1: I just tried a brief session of this performance logging, the AMD overlay said the fans never came on. I shut the game down when it hit 75C. I don't know how to open the log for the performance logging. all i see is GSS.exe and nothing inside it.
Don't panic when it hits 75C. As Ice Mage suggests, start the logging, let it run while you play a game, and then we need to see what happens.
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pds41: Don't panic when it hits 75C. As Ice Mage suggests, start the logging, let it run while you play a game, and then we need to see what happens.
I don't know if there will be a log file left behind if the system goes down. Maybe stop logging when GPU temperature gets dicey, then immediately start logging again. That way, at least you can see for sure if the CPU was struggling before the GPU overheated.

Not that I would personally allow the system overheat; I'm just trying to assist with your suggestion here.
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Cgamer1: I don't know how to open the log for the performance logging. all i see is GSS.exe and nothing inside it.
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Ice_Mage: There's no executable in the default logging folder. If you set the game's installation folder as the logging location, you shouldn't have.

1. Select a custom logging location as indicated in the previous post. Choose your desktop, or another easily accessible and empty folder.
2. Make sure that you actually started and stopped logging. There should be popup notifications to that effect in the top right corner. For whatever reason, the right Ctrl and right Shift don't trigger the default keyboard shortcut, so be sure to either use Left Ctrl + Left Shift + L or set up a custom shortcut as indicated previously.
3. Once logging is finished, you'll have a file with a name in the format YYYYMMDD-HHMMSS.CSV. If you don't have a spreadsheet editor to import it, you can use Online CSV Viewer to make it readable.
4. If you want to share the raw file publicly, there are a whole bunch of sites that let you do that, like Pastebin.
i tried the online csv viewer, but no data showed up. i did exactly what you said. very strange.
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Cgamer1: I just tried a brief session of this performance logging, the AMD overlay said the fans never came on. I shut the game down when it hit 75C. I don't know how to open the log for the performance logging. all i see is GSS.exe and nothing inside it.
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pds41: Don't panic when it hits 75C. As Ice Mage suggests, start the logging, let it run while you play a game, and then we need to see what happens.
so i have to start the logging when the game runs, not before?
Post edited February 19, 2022 by Cgamer1
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Cgamer1: so i have to start the logging when the game runs, not before?
Haven't used that software, but you should be able to start it running before the game starts, then it should log while the game plays. But the software itself should have documentation.

Ice Mage makes a good point about it being unclear whether a log remains after the system crashes if you don't stop manually.

The other thing that might be worth it if you think that you've got an overheating GPU is changing your fan speed profile. MSI afterburner is my tool of choice for this. However, you will may want to get more data on the temperatures you're hitting beforeyou try any of this.

See the following link:

https://appuals.com/how-to-change-and-improve-the-fan-curve-of-your-over-heating-gpu/

NOTE: I wouldn't try undervolting your GPU yet - just change the fan curve so it comes on earlier. Undervolting might (I haven't reviewed this) void a warranty on your GPU and it's something that I think you need more general computer knowledge before you do.

According to this site, you want to keep your GPU under 80 degrees C. They recommend always running the fans at 30% and upping them so that they hit 100% before you hit 80 degrees.
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Cgamer1: i tried the online csv viewer, but no data showed up.
It's a simple text file. You can open it in something like Notepad just to double-check there's actual data in there. It won't be very easy to read though. If the file is valid, you can also try the CSV to HTML converter which outputs a file you can open in a web browser.
If that doesn't work for you either, there are many other sites you could try, like Google Sheets. Or try the same sites, but in a different browser, with default settings and no add-ons.
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Cgamer1: i tried the online csv viewer, but no data showed up.
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Ice_Mage: It's a simple text file. You can open it in something like Notepad just to double-check there's actual data in there. It won't be very easy to read though. If the file is valid, you can also try the CSV to HTML converter which outputs a file you can open in a web browser.
If that doesn't work for you either, there are many other sites you could try, like Google Sheets. Or try the same sites, but in a different browser, with default settings and no add-ons.
opened the csv file with notepad. all there is:

GPU UTIL,GPU SCLK,GPU MCLK,GPU TEMP,GPU PWR,GPU FAN,GPU VRAM UTIL,CPU UTIL,RAM UTIL


by the way, i'm not trying to overclock my computer.
Post edited February 19, 2022 by Cgamer1
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Cgamer1: opened the csv file with notepad. all there is:

GPU UTIL,GPU SCLK,GPU MCLK,GPU TEMP,GPU PWR,GPU FAN,GPU VRAM UTIL,CPU UTIL,RAM UTIL

by the way, i'm not trying to overclock my computer.
Any numbers, or just the headings?

Good to hear that you're not trying to overclock - I wouldn't recommend overclocking unless you have really good cooling and know what you're doing (it's barely worth it these days as the CPU and GPU tend to "boost" automatically if running in a standard operating window - and increased CPU/GPU competition means that manufacturers are pushing performance closer to capacity)
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Cgamer1: opened the csv file with notepad. all there is:
Then nothing has been logged. Launch the game, then when you get to the main menu, use the keyboard shortcut.
If you don't see the logging start notification in the top right corner then, then there's probably nothing being logged. In that case, I suggest double-checking the keyboard shortcut setup. And make sure to press the left modifier keys (Ctrl/Alt/Shift) since the ones on the right don't seem to be recognized for whatever reason.
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Cgamer1: opened the csv file with notepad. all there is:

GPU UTIL,GPU SCLK,GPU MCLK,GPU TEMP,GPU PWR,GPU FAN,GPU VRAM UTIL,CPU UTIL,RAM UTIL

by the way, i'm not trying to overclock my computer.
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pds41: Any numbers, or just the headings?

Good to hear that you're not trying to overclock - I wouldn't recommend overclocking unless you have really good cooling and know what you're doing (it's barely worth it these days as the CPU and GPU tend to "boost" automatically if running in a standard operating window - and increased CPU/GPU competition means that manufacturers are pushing performance closer to capacity)
just the headings. but i tried again and the new csv file has numbers.
ok. i tried a 3rd time.. and i used afterburner. the fans finally came on when i had it set to 80C but the temp kept rising, so i decided to shut down the game.

now i have another new csv file and something called frametime (that goes wiht csv?)

i'm going to take a screenshot of the online csv viewer and attach the image here. give me a moment.

i had to take 3 separate shots due to the length of the file.

hope you can see them.
Attachments:
Post edited February 19, 2022 by Cgamer1
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Cgamer1: i had to take 3 separate shots due to the length of the file.
pds41 wanted to know about the CPU temperature. All CPU readings are cut off in your screenshots.

I did give you one example how to share the raw file: Pastebin.
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Cgamer1: i had to take 3 separate shots due to the length of the file.
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Ice_Mage: pds41 wanted to know about the CPU temperature. All CPU readings are cut off in your screenshots.

I did give you one example how to share the raw file: Pastebin.
that was like that way when I used the online csv viewer. let me check it again.

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Cgamer1: i had to take 3 separate shots due to the length of the file.
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Ice_Mage: pds41 wanted to know about the CPU temperature. All CPU readings are cut off in your screenshots.

I did give you one example how to share the raw file: Pastebin.
i apologize for not being an expert on internet stuff, lol. but here's my attempt at pastebin.

https://pastebin.com/K78nmKCs
Post edited February 19, 2022 by Cgamer1
OK, so we're not getting CPU temps in the file (just utilisation), but the thing that is bugging me a bit is the fan behaviour.

Can you try changing your fan curve?

Go in to MSI afterburner and press the cog next to "Fan Speed". This should enable the user defined fan curve. Then, go in to the settings of afterburner and scroll to fan. You should see a default profile that looks something like the attached. My suggestion would be to (as a test) set it to 80% after the temperature hits 40 degrees and 100% after it hits 70 degrees.

We will then want to know what impact this has on the GPU temps (and fan speed on the extract)
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Reading this has been "amusing".

The MSI Armor is one of the worst coolers out there, you're cooking it in that case without airflow. Do as suggested above with the custom fan curve and create a clean airflow from front to back in the case, two fans will be enough.

In the meantime, you can simply remove the side panel.

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Cgamer1: but i have a book that says 30C is hot. so.. hot.
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teceem: Is it a book about making ice cream?
Chuckles.

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timppu: I tried to go to that web site, but my computer can't run it. :(
It can, but it's smart enough to avoid it.
Post edited February 19, 2022 by kmanitou
There's no CPU temperature in there. If it's in the original file, then I guess Pastebin ate it. In that case, upload the file directly to a host of your choice, like Mediafire.

If there's no CPU temperature in the original file either, first double-check that you're using the latest drivers, 22.2.2. Then double-check the aforementioned logging settings under Performance - Metrics - Tracking.
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pds41: We will then want to know what impact this has on the GPU temps (and fan speed on the extract)
Tweaking GPU/CPU cooler settings is all well and good, but it doesn't change the fact that the computer case is currently a convection oven. I don't even know what's happening to the hard drive(s) under load after prolonged use, because OP wouldn't run CrystalDiskInfo. I'd buy the maximum of 2 × 120mm (12cm) 4-pin case fans ASAP.