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phaolo: For me you 2 should just drop the topic because it has become a mess XD
But we can try to straighten it out, at least till now, GOG for many things DID listen to our feedback. Example many of my suggestions for the EULA did make it in there.
Fable did (more or less) asked for our input, shall we just give up just to complain about afterwards?
I think that is wrong way, or?
And sadly enough It seems that not a lot of people are anyway really interested in it anyway, which I find sad.
Post edited November 12, 2016 by Goodaltgamer
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Goodaltgamer: Kleetus jumps back to post 276 despite what dtgreene has posted in between.
No, Kleetus is just confused how cyberbullying and suicide is relevant to the context of this this thread, which is about forum moderation.

Even the title gives you a clue.

But it can never be discussed here without the righteous and triggered jumping in and trying to force their version of transsexual utopia on us all.

And they always try to silence others by using emotional claptrap like suicide.
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Goodaltgamer: Kleetus jumps back to post 276 despite what dtgreene has posted in between.
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Kleetus: No, Kleetus is just confused how cyberbullying and suicide is relevant to the context of this this thread, which is about forum moderation.

Even the title gives you a clue.

But it can never be discussed here without the righteous and triggered jumping in and trying to force their version of transsexual utopia on us all.

And they always try to silence others by using emotional claptrap like suicide.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/quest_for_the_missing_blues/post322

Again wrong
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Goodaltgamer: But as a serious question, after what I pointed out with Kleetus remark, do you still defend him? What is your point of the WHAT WHEN WHY?

So back to what dtgreene and me had in mind. As you did post here, I now take you hostage and make you post your ideas!!!! :P
To be honest I don't have any solutions. I just know that any reporting type system can, and probably will, be abused. Part of the problem (as I see it) is that people have become "thin-skinned" and are just waitting for someone to say something that they don't like so that they can be "offended". The other problem, in regaurds to this forum, is that there are many grudges. I could see the CM being overwhelmed with complaints from people reporting others just because they're mad at them.
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mm324: To be honest I don't have any solutions. I just know that any reporting type system can, and probably will, be abused. Part of the problem (as I see it) is that people have become "thin-skinned" and are just waiting for someone to say something that they don't like so that they can be "offended". The other problem, in regards to this forum, is that there are many grudges. I could see the CM being overwhelmed with complaints from people reporting others just because they're mad at them.
Thanks for the input.

not solution, ideas ;) What shall be forbidden, when shall it be forbidden and why.
Hm offended, I think we really would need to differentiate there. Political thread: You dared to enter without bodyarmor, sorry (unless again repeatedly posted the same slur/insult). Which amount would you see as fitting before reporting?

I go first: using racially slurs, anything similar 2 times.
using other offensive things 5 times.

Unless this user did it before, so on a regular basis in every thread, first time.

Other threads, maximum one time. Thinking here of +13, so also for minors.

Grudges: Hence me asking for why! Nothing shall not happen with out those three WWW ;)
WHAT, WHEN and WHY.
So Grudges would by default disqualify any banning as it would not be a valid complained.
So if a person complaining can not answer WWW, easy solution, ignore this request.

Being offended, please clarify, too vague. I mean I could say i was offended by your quick finger ;)
*Triggered*
low rated
Lets keep it CIVIL.
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mm324: To be honest I don't have any solutions. I just know that any reporting type system can, and probably will, be abused. Part of the problem (as I see it) is that people have become "thin-skinned" and are just waitting for someone to say something that they don't like so that they can be "offended". The other problem, in regaurds to this forum, is that there are many grudges. I could see the CM being overwhelmed with complaints from people reporting others just because they're mad at them.
I second this. I imagine poor Fables already has a headache enough just from all the PMs he's received by now and just looking at this thread alone.
I'm not sure what the solution is (we're going to have to wait and see what he does for now) but such a system is definitely not it. There's too many grudges and feuds between members on here.
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zeogold: we're going to have to wait and see what HE does for now
SEXIST!!!

How do you know fthey are not female or some other type of sexual identifier.

Maybe they are polymorphial fluid gender other?
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Regals: How do you know fthey are not female or some other type of sexual identifier.
My penis is my identifier; when people ask me for ID I show them my penis.

And I'm circumcised so I'm also religiously endorsed.

I'm special.
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HunchBluntley: Don't bother. Cyraxpt has become little more than an angry troll. I assume the only reason he still hangs around is because he still has friends here, but he has long since stopped being a positive force in the general forum (if he ever was), bringing bitterness and toxicity wherever he posts. I've learned to just skim over most of his posts.
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Cyraxpt: Then prove me wrong. If i was an angry troll as you say then you would have created mayhem in this forum a long time ago, do you think that Tauto & company shenanigans are a problem? When a real troll appears with the right knowledge then perhaps people like you will understand how pointless the "positive force" is...
You castigate the staff for so often remaining silent when problems (or things that you perceive as problems, at any rate) arise, and then you snipe at them on the occasions when they DO show up. You complain about everything that's wrong (or that you think is wrong) with the site and the forum, yet when they do make an undeniably positive move, you are utterly incapable of just saying, "Well done this time, GOG," and leaving it at that. Instead, you go the "Yeah, great...now when are you gonna fix this other thing?!?!" route. I literally don't think you're capable of being objective or constructive where GOG is concerned anymore, and I really do wonder why you continue to hang around here, given that you've stated in other past threads that you no longer patronize the store. And, since I don't really see you ever posting to help (or banter with) other users, you can perhaps see why it gets more than a little old.

Don't misunderstand me, it's not that I have a problem with fair criticism (of GOG, or anything else). There are quite a few other members (HypersomniacLive comes to mind) who are pretty vocal and frequent in their criticisms of GOG, but in an even-handed manner, also giving positive credit where and when it's due. Even apehater, paranoid prick that he is, at least sometimes still contributes positively/neutrally in the forums. And, to be fair, maybe you're a swell, light-hearted guy in some of the "forum game" topics (which I don't participate in), or in specific game subforums that I never venture into. But I haven't seen that Cyraxpt; I see the perpetual complainer. I would genuinely love for you to prove me wrong. Failing that, I wish you'd just move on and find a better place for you to hang out that won't cause you to poison yourself with bitterness over something that you can do nothing about. You say positivity doesn't help; maybe not, but neither does incessant, venemous whinging (especially when you harass individual staff members as if they were the architects of everything bad about the place). I'd rather hang out in the same old "broken" forum with nice people who realize that a video game site should be fun, than in a perfectly-functioning, feature-rich forum full of bitter cynics and angry assholes. I admit I was wrong to call you a troll, but the net effect of the negativity engendered here by you and a number of others (each with your own differing versions of "what is most wrong with GOG") is every bit as damaging to the atmosphere here as the depredations of the more sadistic individuals who troll these forums.
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zeogold: He's become angry, but he's become angry for a reason, being one of the people who've "boycotted" GOG over the forum.
Yeah, it's a bit much and he can be extreme, but you can't say he doesn't have an understanding and at least SOME insight about the problems underlying this place. We might not always like how he says what he says, but he undeniably often has a point, unless I've missed something about the guy.
He takes it far, far too seriously, though (and is disturbingly single-minded about it). Yes, the forum software is a janky, cobbled-together mess. But, as far as I know, it's pretty much been that way since the site's inception, and GOG staff have flat-out stated since I've been around here that there are no plans in the near future for them to do any major work on the forums. Expecting GOG to put time (a.k.a. money) into something that the vast majority of customers use anywhere from "a few times a year" to "never", and which nets the store little, if any, additional business, and expecting it despite the fact that they've specified that there are no plans to do so, is an exercise in frustration.
If he were complaining about legitimate problems he'd had with items he'd spent money on, I wouldn't have as much of a problem (although it still pays to try not to be a dick to the staff, as they're just trying to do their jobs). But the forums are essentially a free bonus. (Also, as he's said himself, he's no longer even a customer here.) It's like becoming angrily fixated on a complimentary airport shuttle vehicle being fifteen model years out of date and having uncomfortable seats -- as long as it gets one to and from the airport, and one isn't paying extra for it, it's foolish to complain much about it.
EDIT: Fixed typo
Post edited November 12, 2016 by HunchBluntley
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HunchBluntley: And, since I don't really see you ever posting to help (or banter with) other users, you can perhaps see why it gets more than a little old.
I've seen and participated in a fair amount of banter with him before, but then, that's just my experience.
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HunchBluntley: He takes it far, far too seriously, though (and is disturbingly single-minded about it). Yes, the forum software is a janky, cobbled-together mess. But, as far as I know, it's pretty much been that way since the site's inception, and GOG staff have flat-out stated since I've been around here that there are no plans in the near future for them to do any major work on the forums. Expecting GOG to put time (a.k.a. money) into something that the vast majority of customers use anywhere from "a few times a year" to "never", and which nets the store little, if any, additional business, and expecting it despite the fact that they've specified that there are no plans to do so, is an exercise in frustration.
If he were complaining about legitimate problems he'd had with items he'd spent money on, I wouldn't have as much of a problem (although it still pays to try not to be a dick to the staff, as they're just trying to do their jobs). But the forums are essentially a free bonus. (Also, as he's said himself, he's no longer even a customer here.) It's like becoming angrily fixated on a complimentary airport shuttle vehicle being fifteen model years out of date and having uncomfortable seats -- as long as it gets one from to and from the airport, and one isn't paying extra for it, it's foolish to complain much about it.
I agree with you on everything here, I just figure perhaps he can offer some insight to Fables. Again, that's just my take on things based on my interactions with him. Your interactions/the interactions of others with him may of course have been completely different. I mean, if the forum is what makes him support the website and it's somehow not any good any more, I can understand him being angry. It's because it's what kept him here or whatever. Same way which people left over the whole regional pricing thing even if they weren't personally affected (yeah, I know, before you even say it: they left and didn't stay here to whine about it unlike Cyraxpt, I'm just making a point about people getting mad enough to feel GOG "betrayed" them or whatever). He could definitely be a lot less of a perpetual cynic, but at least he might have a wise suggestion or two as somebody who's been burned by this place to the point that he's fed up with the business itself.
Post edited November 12, 2016 by zeogold
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HunchBluntley: And, since I don't really see you ever posting to help (or banter with) other users, you can perhaps see why it gets more than a little old.
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zeogold: I've seen and participated in a fair amount of banter with him before, but then, that's just my experience.
As I said in the paragraph after that, that's fair enough -- I just wish, then, that that version of him would show up occasionally in some of the other threads, too. Most of the other inveterate complainers show up in some of the random goof-offery threads at least once in a while, or will show up to answer questions for noobs (without scaring them away), or post about whatever game they're playing (even if it's not a game purchased here), or the like. But I don't see that from him. (So maybe I'm just not where the cool kids are. :P )
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HunchBluntley: (So maybe I'm just not where the cool kids are. :P )
We have those in this forum?