FTFY

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How can you say it's the worst? I don't know about the best but it's certainly not the worst.

Just look at the games made with it and compare them with Fallout (which is even older). PS:T is the exception, as the gameplay isn't the focus.

Unfortunately, the mainstream success of Baldurs Gate set this as the norm for RPGs for many years....

That will be hard, I've never played Fallout 1 and 2 and barely touched Baldur's Gate. I've finished Planescape and played some Icewind Dale 2. So far the engine has been good enough, in some cases great.

I never was a huge fan of Baldur's Gate, but that wasn't because of the engine. I just didn't enjoy the setting and the plot was a tad too cliched to my liking. Also the pacing was way, way off to be enjoyable.

I did like BG2 better though, mainly because it was balanced better story wise.

I pretty much agree with everything you typed. The bold part, yeah, this makes zero sense to me that they would go to the public and ask for money and then require Steam DRM with it. That's still keeping this "us vs. them" mentality to me. I like MCA's work quite a bit, but one thing that turned me off was when I read an interview with him where he said he loved digital because it helped kill secondhand sales (that might be a hint to how they feel about DRM).

People use the digital distribution argument, but that argument has zero grounds with the boxed versions. If those require Steam, that's just another case of greedy assholes to me. Until it's clear if the boxed copy is going to have Steam DRM or not, I'm not pledging for it.

Here's what I will do if they don't have a DRM-free option: pledges can be customized so I will use the $1 pledge option but make it a $50-100 donation without any of the rewards. I'll tell them why and I'll just pirate it when it comes out. I paid more than the Steam pledges and I'm doing them a favor by not making them use any resources to get the game to me now am I? Assholes. I'll tell my friends that might be interested in it to pirate it too. If they come after people for this, what's their argument? They're suing people who donated to the game but didn't use Steam to get it? Fucking stupid.

I would normally just forget about a game on Kickstarter that requires Steam, but this is one of the few circumstances that I still want to donate. I went on a Kickstarter splurge for a little while, but now I save up so I can act and pledge big for the ones I want.

I didn't think Infinity Engine was that bad, but I was hoping for something more like ToEE with great game characters and much more dialogue choices that Obsidian is capable of creating.

Shit bro, that's taking things a bit too far lol.

Well, maybe. I have my convictions though ;)

I never finished PST, because I could not stand PSTed IE. Also, ToEE engine was better in every way. This is step back :(

Well, for the boxed version it does say you get a digital (Steam) version, along with the physical copy (specifically, it says: "so two copies total"), so it may be that it is not Steamworks. I mean, it may be that they expect you to give the digital copy away, and have your digital/DVD Steamworks copy, but there is no point in one person having a Steamworks and a digital copy, since any Steamworks title can be downloaded or installed from disc.

I agree ToEE engine was better in every way. They say they're building everything new though, so hopefully they're just referring to the spirit of Infinity Engine games or something like that, not the actual engine.

Obsidian will hopefully use their own Onyx engine. It's stabile and should be ideal for a project like this.

... but they want their fans to make compromises and answer to Valve. Wut.

I pledged to get into the $20 price point, but I'd really like to see more information and visuals from them. If the Coles do their kickstarter soon, I may have to pull out and pledge to that. But obviously Project Eternity will be funded just fine.

When did this kickstarter start? Did they reach 1M faster than Double Fine?