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Linko64: Bizarre reason, GoG features games from LGBTQ backgrounds, so if you're willing to reject Steam for offering titles like that, then i'm not really sure what you hope to achieve here...or in most places to be fair. The mere existence of people offends you then i think video games are the last thing you should be introspectively reflecting upon.
IKR?

^This is so true.

I never understood why things that don't affect you in any way, are causes for bigotry and prejudice? I mean, why hate people, and not let them be free about their personal life choices?

I don't really get it. I'm sure someone will enlighten me soon though.

edit: I should add, not all of the things mentioned are even 'choices'.
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Lifthrasil: Ah, ok. Never was aware of them. But then again I never was interested in fighting about someone's sexual orientation. I never got why someone wants to identify as something they are not - apart from role-playing of course. But I also never got why some people are so scared of anything outside of the norm. Anyone can have sex in any way they chose as long as everything is consensual.
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Goebanova: It's bigger than that. It's the lobbyists, the propagandists, the mandatory indoctrination programs in schools, the quotas, diversity hires, PC police, 'hate speech', 'hate crimes', etc etc.

It's about this: https://www.glaad.org/blog/glaads-where-we-are-tv-report-shows-tv-telling-more-lgbtq-stories-ever

I got banned on Steam just for linking that link when somebody asked me for proof that GLAAD do this. In that link, they talk about how they've inflated the number of LGBTQRSJWP+2s in mainstream TV shows to 10% of main recurring characters, and intend to inflate it further to 20% within the next few years, and will assure at least half of them will be 'people of color'
The Rainbow Reich so dominate the mainstream scene and have such massively disproportionate control over mainstream outlets that you can scarcely whisper their name without being silenced for 'hate speech'
i'd like to point out you're walking close to the "no politics" rule in the forum at this point.

I'd also point out that you're probably being called out on hate speech for using terms like "rainbow reich" (seriously?).

finally: i disagree with what seems to be your point of view, but, tbh, i don't really want to get into it with you because, judging by your comments so far, you're not actually open to discussing your viewpoint. that being said you probably want to tone it down. this is a games forum, not a political / social soapbox.
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So your problem is that Steam offers too much choice for gamers?

Here's a radical idea for you... if you don't like something, don't buy it.

I don't like racing games, but I don't accuse Steam of caving to Nascar's hidden agenda to make us all grow handlebar mustaches and drink Busch. I just accept that other people would be interested in racing games and therefore Steam sells them because there is a demand for it. That and I don't care about what other people want to do or what games they want to play cause it doesn't have any affect on me.... just like Steam selling those games has no affect on you.
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LORDAdolf: As far as I'm concerned, false flags are on par with memes. Nice try though. That comment is reported too.
All I can say is, if you like pressing that Report button (which does nothing but contribute to lowering a user's Rep score and hide their comment), you are in good company here, as you've surely noticed by now, seeing how many have already done the same to your posts ...
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LORDAdolf: As far as I'm concerned, false flags are on par with memes. Nice try though. That comment is reported too.
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Leroux: All I can say is, if you like pressing that Report button (which does nothing but contribute to lowering a user's Rep score and hide their comment), you are in good company here, as you've surely noticed by now, seeing how many have already done the same to your posts ...
I already knew I'd quickly receive negative rep.

The certain group I referred to in a previous post are notorious for abusing such systems.
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firstpastthepost: So your problem is that Steam offers too much choice for gamers?

Here's a radical idea for you... if you don't like something, don't buy it.

I don't like racing games, but I don't accuse Steam of caving to Nascar's hidden agenda to make us all grow handlebar mustaches and drink Busch. I just accept that other people would be interested in racing games and therefore Steam sells them because there is a demand for it. That and I don't care about what other people want to do or what games they want to play cause it doesn't have any affect on me.... just like Steam selling those games has no affect on you.
ugh... busch.
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firstpastthepost: So your problem is that Steam offers too much choice for gamers?

Here's a radical idea for you... if you don't like something, don't buy it.

I don't like racing games, but I don't accuse Steam of caving to Nascar's hidden agenda to make us all grow handlebar mustaches and drink Busch. I just accept that other people would be interested in racing games and therefore Steam sells them because there is a demand for it. That and I don't care about what other people want to do or what games they want to play cause it doesn't have any affect on me.... just like Steam selling those games has no affect on you.
That's great an' all, but it has nothing to do with why I started this discussion.

The problem isn't games. The problem is unwarranted punishment for valid criticism towards obvious agenda titles.
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zenstar: i'd like to point out you're walking close to the "no politics" rule in the forum at this point.

I'd also point out that you're probably being called out on hate speech for using terms like "rainbow reich" (seriously?).

finally: i disagree with what seems to be your point of view, but, tbh, i don't really want to get into it with you because, judging by your comments so far, you're not actually open to discussing your viewpoint. that being said you probably want to tone it down. this is a games forum, not a political / social soapbox.
I was not aware there was a "no politics" rule here.
My comments have all been mild-mannered, no need to be so sensitive.

"The Rainbow Reich" just refers to the well known lobbies and political activist groups like GLAAD and their affiliates (the LGBT+++ conglomerates). It's not a good sign of where society is currently when legitimate criticism of political organizations is deemed 'hate speech'
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LORDAdolf: I'm considering moving over to GOG since Valve/Steam has sold out to GLAAD.

Is it any better here? I just want to play games without the two genders being bastardized.
While there are games with LGBT content on GOG, I have not seen extreme punishments for stated criticisms, other then mass downvoting, also as long as your critiques are not including threats of elimination of said group or groups.
Post edited February 05, 2020 by Lord_Kane
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zenstar: i'd like to point out you're walking close to the "no politics" rule in the forum at this point.

I'd also point out that you're probably being called out on hate speech for using terms like "rainbow reich" (seriously?).

finally: i disagree with what seems to be your point of view, but, tbh, i don't really want to get into it with you because, judging by your comments so far, you're not actually open to discussing your viewpoint. that being said you probably want to tone it down. this is a games forum, not a political / social soapbox.
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Goebanova: I was not aware there was a "no politics" rule here.
My comments have all been mild-mannered, no need to be so sensitive.

"The Rainbow Reich" just refers to the well known lobbies and political activist groups like GLAAD and their affiliates (the LGBT+++ conglomerates). It's not a good sign of where society is currently when legitimate criticism of political organizations is deemed 'hate speech'
there is a no politics rule. the thread will be shut down if you derail it into political discussion unless it's directly related to a game that is being discussed.
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001814049-Forum-Code-of-Conduct?_ga=2.39213220.641433875.1578438651-1740792838.1578438651&product=gog
"Political discussions not related to a video game are not permitted. Threads created exclusively to talk about politics will be locked. Users who ignore this rule repeatedly will be met with moderation."

don't assume i'm being sensitive just because i say something that opposes what you've said. I'm not being sensitive. don't be that sort of patronising douche.

the term "The Rainbow Reich" is coined as such to make them "guilty by association" by trying to liken them to the Nazis. It's a stupid term and if you think it's acceptable to use, whether or not you agree with the groups the term is trying to belittle, then i'm afraid i have some bad news for you. this also goes for other things you say like "mandatory indoctrination programs in schools". not only is that massively misrepresenting the facts, but if you think you're being "mild-mannered" while saying that then i suggest you reread the definition of mild mannered, and ask a work colleague or teacher to proof read your comment and tell you how it reads. it certainly doesn't read as "mild mannered" and smacks a lot of extremist pamphlets. ironically you complain about propaganda while seemingly sprouting it.

i don't particularly care what your stance on other people's gender and or sexuality is (although you make it bloody obvious quite frankly) but your veneer of civility is slipping.

(edit: weird double post, cleaned up)
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Earl_Bergamot: That's great an' all, but it has nothing to do with why I started this discussion.

The problem isn't games. The problem is unwarranted punishment for valid criticism towards obvious agenda titles.
The same reasoning applies to that as well. Why do you feel the need to criticise something that has no affect on you? The fact that these games exist literally has zero effect on you unless you specifically seek them out.

You are doing nothing but seeking conflict by criticizing a game for a narrative you have a political opposition to. You are literally bringing this upon yourself.
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Lifthrasil: I know I'm going to regret asking this, but I'm curious. Who or what is Glaad?
The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. What Valve is meant to have done is beyond me, but if the OP thinks that krass homophobia and transphobia is going to be tolerated by the mods here, I have a sneaking suspicion he's going to be very disappointed.

His "original" user name doesn't inspire much hope for any human decency from him.
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zenstar: your veneer of civility is slipping.
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Post edited February 05, 2020 by Goebanova
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Linko64: Bizarre reason, GoG features games from LGBTQ backgrounds, so if you're willing to reject Steam for offering titles like that, then i'm not really sure what you hope to achieve here...or in most places to be fair. The mere existence of people offends you then i think video games are the last thing you should be introspectively reflecting upon.
There's a difference between offering games about distasteful topics such as misogyny and promoting misogyny IRL.
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Linko64: Bizarre reason, GoG features games from LGBTQ backgrounds, so if you're willing to reject Steam for offering titles like that, then i'm not really sure what you hope to achieve here...or in most places to be fair. The mere existence of people offends you then i think video games are the last thing you should be introspectively reflecting upon.
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Starmaker: There's a difference between offering games about distasteful topics such as misogyny and promoting misogyny IRL.
You can block tags on Steam, if you truly wish not to see content of certain type, it can be done quite easily.