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ktseymour: It's unfortunate but seems GOG just does not care about the games they redistribute? They have had misleading titles as the old Star Wars space sim suggested , and too many games are just broken and do not get fixed.

I've been burned a few times, one game that comes to mind is Star Trek 25th, the game for me has to be played with a keyboard , even though it has a mouse interface. The mouse Interface is just broken.

I've also seen many reviews of games that get released broken and never fixed? Why release them then? GOG used to take their time and make sure what we were getting was a fully functional solid game, and GOG built trust with gamer's .

It seems GOG no longer cares if what they sell works? I think I'll be keeping my money , thanks GOG.

The Betrayal at Krondor is still not fixed it seems ? The reviews about it being broken go back over five years, and the newest review for the game at '14 still says it's broken.
Okay, what misleading titles?

Or you know, the game is nearly as old as I am and as such, maybe hasn't aged all that well? It came out in 1992.

Or maybe GOG has done all they can to keep these titles running and there's literally only so much that can be done without contacting the programmers themselves?
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LiefLayer: this.
I got a problem with Legend of Kay... after I contact gog support I got help and since it was a bug for the mac version of the game I got a full refund (not just store credits).
when I got a problem with audio from Tales of monkey island, telltale games did not help me (they said to me, "if you want to play our game without bug ask a refund to gog and buy from steam or our website", while gog give to me the audio fix (it seem telltale don't want to update their broken game... I will never buy a telltale game again).

Gog is not perfect, for example there are many games that here on gog only got english language (in retail or steam they also got other languages)... there are some games that in xp works great but now have some bug (the longest journey for example), so I need to use a VM.
Many times I made a wine port of my gog games, but I cannot import that on gog galaxy, and that's really frustrating.

But I think gog is still good most of the times. I can find language patch on the internet, I can use a VM if necessary (most of the times it's not... with the longest journey for example the only problem I got is a white exit screen from the game, so that you can exit only with keyboard Y for yes instead of mouse click button Yes), I will not use gog galaxy.
Telltale. They can't even get their damn games on Steam right. I doubt they give zero fuck about anything else.

Always always buy (if you're interested) their games on sale or pirate the shit out of it.
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MacArthur: Wow... That's really sad !

Maybe you can buy the same game on steam and...

Oh wait...

More seriously : [insert random explanations on the difficulties of engineering of old pc games]
Is dosbox really that difficult to set up? (maybe it is, never tried myself)
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MacArthur: Wow... That's really sad !

Maybe you can buy the same game on steam and...

Oh wait...

More seriously : [insert random explanations on the difficulties of engineering of old pc games]
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KasperHviid: Is dosbox really that difficult to set up? (maybe it is, never tried myself)
it is rather opaque

and wel it is dos dos is obtuse at the best of times
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Licurg: Have you tried looking for existing threads in the relevant game subforums for games that don't work for you? In 99% of the cases, the fixes are very simple, and someone around usually know them .
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HunchBluntley: More importantly,
You could say that yes, but
OP? Ktseymour, are you still there?
O_o
Post edited March 07, 2016 by phaolo
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ktseymour: They have had misleading titles as the old Star Wars space sim suggested
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BrandeX: I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean or refer to.
I seem to remember that when X-Wing/Tie Fighter games first released, the store page seemed to indicate that the Collector's CD versions would be included, when they weren't. I think the store page got quickly fixed, and some months later later these much loved versions were added.
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MacArthur: Wow... That's really sad !

Maybe you can buy the same game on steam and...

Oh wait...

More seriously : [insert random explanations on the difficulties of engineering of old pc games]
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KasperHviid: Is dosbox really that difficult to set up? (maybe it is, never tried myself)
Is that serious ?

I mean you do know that all games on GOG aren't made usable by dos box ? Yes, I hope...

That goes far beyond that if, by instance, you want to render useless the old drm "question-style" of games like the gold box one. You can read of some of their tricks in articles online. There was a good one on Pcgamer some times ago.
Sorry, bad communication on my part - I was geniuly interested in how hard DOSBox is to set up. I didn't try to imply anything negative about the GoG teams efforts. (and if they did get some old game up and running in no time, more powers to them!)
No problem. I'm no geek, so I really can't say anything about dos box.

I do know though that they are working closely with them and that this thing takes a while for certain titles. Revenant for example was signed with square enix around four years ago when squeenix was still active here. But the game itself could be decently played and sold here only a few month ago. So it took more than three years to solve all its problem.

And there are other games all signed and ready on the rights side, but they can't make them work, so no release till someone figure something, the windows 95 in particular.
I hate to say it but that is my experience too, or rather was because I have not bought a game for a long while. But I don't see it as GOG's fault but PC platform's as a whole, its openness is its strength and curse at the same time.
"too many games are just broken and do not get fixed" is a very big generalization.

How many games do you own and how many of them do not work?
If you ask me, I have no problem, 100% of the games I got work perfectly (but I have 50 games only)
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KasperHviid: Sorry, bad communication on my part - I was geniuly interested in how hard DOSBox is to set up. I didn't try to imply anything negative about the GoG teams efforts. (and if they did get some old game up and running in no time, more powers to them!)
It's really not that hard. Most games tend to work fine with the default configurations of DOSbox, but quite a few require pretty specific fine-tuning, usually the ones that made use of some kind of hardware trickery.

A lot of the problems tend to stem from games not having their speeds capped, so it's a bit of trial and error to find the correct number of cycles at which DOSbox will run them.
For example, the "maximum" cycles setting, which means that DOSbox runs as fast as your PC will allow, works fine with games like DOOM or Duke Nukem 3D, but causes issues with Daggerfall or Star Wars: Dark Forces. In Daggerfall, it'll completely break the movement mechanics and in Dark Forces, it affects the ability to move on a slippery surface of ice, which only occurs in a specific level in the game.

Some problems can't really be fixed, currently, because of incompatibilities in DOSbox itself. The missing audio in Pizza Connection/ Pizza Tycoon or the non-looping music in Blood come from that.

So, there's a lot of testing involved, which is probably what takes the most time with these games.

For a bit more information, I'd recommend the Ancient Dos Games video series, which showcases individual DOS titles and always includes tips for the DOSbox configuration. There are also episodes specifically about DOSbox and its configuration files.
I agree that there are some games that don't work from gog's catalog but they are very very rare. I think I only had two games that didn't work Corsairs gold (doesn't work on Win 8.1 or in Wine on Linux) and Deadlock 2 (was removed from supported list for Win 8 after that).
Post edited March 07, 2016 by Matruchus
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zeroxxx: Telltale. They can't even get their damn games on Steam right. I doubt they give zero fuck about anything else.

Always always buy (if you're interested) their games on sale or pirate the shit out of it.
easier... I will just avoid to buy their games (I don't pirate anymore, there are too many games that I bought and want to play).
I bought only tales of monkey island on sale here on gog because I didn't know their support is shit.
Post edited March 07, 2016 by LiefLayer