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General discussionGOG should be supported unconditionally by all of us!(101 posts)(101 posts)
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Posted August 10, 2019
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GameRager: [-snip-
I definitely agree that GOG should make an encompassing and more generous rule-set for their curation (I even favor the Steam DRM's style of curation, but accept that GOG has limits on how many games they can convert and take care of during their recession) , but I got snagged by your use of Casual in conjunction with Simulator games..
Those two usually don't go together at all.
What exactly did you mean by simulator in this case?
Train simulators? Space combat and trading simulator? 4X empire simulation? Rimworld society simulation? Minecraft survivor simulation?
Posted August 10, 2019
LoL
Posted August 10, 2019
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paladin181: Unconditionally? No. Nothing is unconditional in this world, particularly my support of a storefront or other entertainment purveyor. Simply put, if they ever cease doing it right, I will withdraw my support instantly.
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Patias: It was a poetic way to state that we should treat GOG with respect. Hehehe.
I treat GOG with the same respect as I'd treat whores: I give them money for their services, but only if their services please me.

All hail GOG! (and whores)
Posted August 10, 2019
I don't trust any corporation. I'm fine with GOG as long as GOG is fine with me. Fair deals so far.
Posted August 10, 2019
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Karterii1993: all it takes is one misguided CEO to destroy all the workers' genuine good intentions, and the trust of the consumers.
Given how most companies seem to get worse as they age, I'm convinced that it takes a merely normal or average CEO and some time + growth for a company to grow from something where everyone shares the values and the vision and understands the customer, into a bunch of faceless corporate entities who are "just doing their job" and nothing more. And for a CEO to realize that it's gone that far, it takes a ton of guts, creativity, and skill to turn the ghost ship around. That's why most CEOs can't ever do that and that's why most companies are fated to turn to shit.

And, by the way, you do not change that fate by throwing more money at them and "supporting them." That only allows the ghost ship to sail further away from the right course. It might give it more time to turn around before it sinks, but actually turning around gets harder and harder with time.
Post edited August 10, 2019 by clarry
Posted August 10, 2019
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Patias: GOG should be supported unconditionally by all of us!
Unconditionally? Nope.

Look - I like GOG for what they offer: DRM free games.

But that's it.
I do business with them - that's all.

I give them my money in return for their wares.
And if they ever stop offering these wares, I'm off to greener pastures.

Until then I will criticize them, whenever I think they need to get criticized (which, btw. is far more seldom than some people here would probably agree with).

As I would do with my friends.

Only that I never had a beer with Marcin or Guillaume, and I don't consider any of the blues my friends.
Posted August 10, 2019
No company involved in game developement or distribution deserves my 'support.' They either provide an experience that is enjoyable or they don't. If they provide something that people enjoy then people will buy. The gaming industry is one of the few that seems to hate their customers more than wanting to provide a fun and enjoyable experience that sells.
Posted August 10, 2019
Nope. My continued support is conditional on them staying a DRM-free store. As soon as they start selling single-player games with DRM, I stop shopping here.
Posted August 10, 2019
https://ncase.me/trust/

First play this game. then tell me under what conditions you would be the pink guys happily being taken advantage of and holding no-one to account for their actions.

If a rational mind can percieve they have no intent to be true to the values inherent it is of the highest stupidity to give unwavering support.
Post edited August 10, 2019 by MaceyNeil
Posted August 10, 2019
is GOG a she?
Posted August 10, 2019
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Nope, sorry.

OP, did you just timewarp in from 5 years ago, a time when gog's "We're all about teh customrar!" PR spin still had a leg to stand on? They gradually chipped away at all those grand, principled stances that made them "different from the other stores" until only DRM-free installers remained, and they're already burying them as best they can in favor of hawking their client.

My last remaining bit of customer goodwill was pissed away when the 10th anniversary redesign hit, nuking a gogmix that I put several years into and a bunch of reviews I wrote without so much as a word of warning. But that's ok. It's my own fault for falling for the spin and getting involved here as much as I did.

And yet, I'd still be willing to spend money here. After all, what really counts first and foremost are the DRM-free games, right? Unfortunately, gog currently employs a bunch of rather "special" people to "curate" their store, which means that every single game I was looking forward to this year was either rejected or the dev never contacted gog because they were still sore over a previous rejection. Fortunately, the majority of those devs realised that you can release a game DRM-free on Steam too, so that's where my money went. I'm not happy about it, but as long as gog remains a bottomless pit of gross incompetence, ignorance and idiocy, I'm afraid they leave me no choice.
Posted August 10, 2019
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Enebias: I don't trust any corporation. I'm fine with GOG as long as GOG is fine with me. Fair deals so far.
Agreed. It's kind of like how AMD is viewed in an angelic manner by some because AMD does not look as evil as Intel and NVidia. Gog is for profit. Gog will make as much money as they can off of the consumer. DRM free is just Gog's niche in the game market.
Posted August 10, 2019
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Lifthrasil: Nope. My continued support is conditional on them staying a DRM-free store. As soon as they start selling single-player games with DRM, I stop shopping here.
Funny how very slowly the whole climax on GoG turning from "DRM-free games" to "DRM-free single-player games".
We know why...
Post edited August 10, 2019 by P8j6
Posted August 10, 2019
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fronzelneekburm: Nope, sorry.

OP, did you just timewarp in from 5 years ago, a time when gog's "We're all about teh customrar!" PR spin still had a leg to stand on? They gradually chipped away at all those grand, principled stances that made them "different from the other stores" until only DRM-free installers remained, and they're already burying them as best they can in favor of hawking their client.

My last remaining bit of customer goodwill was pissed away when the 10th anniversary redesign hit, nuking a gogmix that I put several years into and a bunch of reviews I wrote without so much as a word of warning. But that's ok. It's my own fault for falling for the spin and getting involved here as much as I did.

And yet, I'd still be willing to spend money here. After all, what really counts first and foremost are the DRM-free games, right? Unfortunately, gog currently employs a bunch of rather "special" people to "curate" their store, which means that every single game I was looking forward to this year was either rejected or the dev never contacted gog because they were still sore over a previous rejection. Fortunately, the majority of those devs realised that you can release a game DRM-free on Steam too, so that's where my money went. I'm not happy about it, but as long as gog remains a bottomless pit of gross incompetence, ignorance and idiocy, I'm afraid they leave me no choice.
youre 1 step away from apehater at this point
Posted August 10, 2019
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Fairfox: youre 1 step away from apehater at this point
lol, I just said the exact same thing to tfishell!


This is the second time I find myself agreeing with one of your recent posts (the other one being your complaint that mods lazily lock threads instead of penalising individual posters). Maybe we can be friends after all?

Or maybe I'm on a similar course as you and some of the other regulars, headed for negative rep at warp speed?

To new heights!

EXCELSIOR!
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