LOL I have so missed playing with you. Dedo always answers that question in the same way, always makes me laugh. What are your thoughts on GamezRanker?

P.S.. If you end up being Mafia I am going to PM you dirty pics that you will not like, just saying....



Did you see my opening post where I said I didn't want to be a Karen? Why not mention it then? Also, we don't need to make an issue in the game thread on this either, no ill intent has been used with the name at any point, but I will not use it again in an off context. But, my game name is Karen...

Of course, that was my tribute to dedo and GOG mafia games from the past decade.

I have no opinion whatsoever on GamezRanker. I shall pause and read.

I have now read the contributions of GamezRanker.

First, he's nicked my undertitle. *MAD DOG STARE*

Second, this is actually somehow worse than max. You know how I just get extra, extra triggered by the two-post, zero-content of what max has done that I just death-tunnel something like that.

I see somebody has at least a handful of posts with words in them and I go, enh, Day 1, good enough, whatever.

But this is pretty bad.

I don't know if there's time to turn the wagon around if the deadline is tomorrow.

What needs to happen is more people need to get on and actually VOTE, and vote seriously. The Day ends tomorrow and if we No Lynch because people decided to drag their feet seppuku might be an option just so I can say I'm dying with honor. But, no the wagon has begun and hopping around is just as bad as not voting.

I'm sorry to say this, as it will appear low effort, but we are low on time, need a flip, and I'm seriously going to be AFK (got an evening job, which is better than no job, that will occupy most of my waking time tomorrow, especially with the time difference.)

So....

we need a flip. I don't like offing Max out of the blue, when he's barely touched the game, but.... he's our least active player so far. Impossible to read.

vote maxleod

Scene complained I hadn't explained my vote:
I'd been voting Yogs because of how overly pushy he seemed, plus, his self-described flavor could be seen as pseudo-admitting to a scum role--and he has done this in the past. Would bother him not at all to do it again.

Then it sunk into my head just how little time we have left, and... yeah, i can't vote one of the talking players over one who doesn't talk. At least not yet.
I really don't like Yog's Page 1 performance--especially his post 45 (RVS when 2 posts earlier he said we had no time), but otoh D1 is really hard to judge people off of.

That's it for now. Gotta do Christmas stuff.

I'm also in favor of Christmas break and will vote for it next week

The problem with lynching the least active player is that we also get little information from the flip. I know I'm a proponent of lynching a lurker if it is necessary to avoid a no-lynch. Little information is better than none at all. And you might as well lynch me on the same basis.

Plus, maxleod actually has only two posts which made it easy to look at them even in my state of mind. It was one opener without content and an OMGUS vote, without any other motivation than being OMGUS. And if it was a playful RVS-OMGUS, it was never retracted.

The yogs vs. micro thing is something to be analyzed tomorrow. For now, to contribute at all and with maxleod being at L-3, I'll add my vote to the Lynch the lurker train. Just to make a no-lynch less likely.

vote maxleod

Exactly what I said. There's no time to be making campaigns against someone who has no votes against them already. He should be checked out more overnight though.

I mean consider this scenario, the last three players left in the game are Alto, Trent and myself. Alto and Trent are both voting for each other, leaving it for me to decide between the person I don't really know (Trent) and the person who made a statement that he votes people out based on not knowing them well enough (Alto.)


I was trying to let it just go the first time. There is a difference between a Karen (which has become a slur to put women in their place) and a character that just happens to be named Karen.



Also I'm changing my vote because lynch is better than no lynch.

unvote scene

vote maxleod



Current vote
supplementscene (2) - GamezRanker (MrKrabsWallet)
yogsloth (2) - maxleod, Microfish
Catventurer (2) - supplementscene, Alto
trentonlf (1) - joppo
maxleod (5) - yogsloth, trentonlf, Microfish, Lift, Catventurer

I could hammer Maxleod, but I will first ask if we have the numbers to lynch CatV? As she's my biggest Scum Suspect.

It's 6 to lynch, so I'd need 4 of you to shift to CatV. If I haven't heard from 4 of you in the next hour I'll hammer, which seems most likely..

@Maxleod any famous last words? Any role claim?

If people are absolutely determined to go for me, I'm not going to fight it because you'd be doing me a major favor. My cat had a very bad morning and puked all over the kitchen floor. (He's such a good boy that he puked on the kitchen floor that is the absolute easiest floor in the house to clean puke off of.) Taking me out would mean more time making my cat happy as he likes watching me play computer games, but looks at me as if to say "this is boring" when I go on any forum.

However you're still going to have a lot of explaining to do on Day 2 when I flip Town because I seriously doubt that anyone will accept that you were just trying to help me out as a reason to lynch me, so start thinking up your excuses.

I'd vote against this. It's nice to have a distraction over Christmas. And we've taken long enough getting the game started. I suppose if some people have commitments maybe we should extend the Day time though

Can I still say "Lighten up, Francis?"

Or do you know somebody with that name, too?

Anyway, Christmas break, whatever. I'll be around but obviously nobody is going to be really active. I'd probably just make that a two-week Day phase so people can still have fun and play, but there's no hard deadline.

Yeeting max may or may not be ideal, but by gum, I'm still who I am and I'm never going to have regrets for yeeting somebody that literally isn't even playing. Thanks for stopping by, see ya later. In ten+ years of GOG mafia I've always felt that way regardless of game, role, or alignment.

Maybe max will make an appearance and do that other GOG tradition... the 11th hour role claim.

To be fair, I really like cats too.

B**** I meyowwwwt be.

INTERIM VOTECOUNT:

maxleod (6) - yogsloth, trentonlf, Microfish, Lifthrasil, Catventurer, supplementscene
supplementscene (1) - GamezRanker (MrKrabsWallet)
yogsloth (1) - maxleod
Catventurer (1) - Atlo
trentonlf (1) - joppo


maxleod is closest to lynch at L-0.

I agree with you to a point, but there is a definite wagon and a trail of votes and reasons that can be examined that are interesting depending on how Max flips.

So I'm finally back from my forced absence. I did not have access to a reliable computer these past two days, but at least now this is over. So let's get going with what has to be done.

I see our time is short, so RVS should have been too. Too bad it wasn't as short as it should but eh, it's our fault and our own limitations that we couldn't make it shorter.

Well let's get to work, but the most important thing comes first.

I am really sorry to read this. Everyone who unites themselves with someone else always want to stay together, and for it endure. But it's not always that it works out that way.
May you, your former partner and the closest people find the best possible relationship between you from this point forward. If you need an ear to vent to, or friendly advice, or whatever I'm able to help with don't hesitate to ask. I may not have experienced such pain in my own flesh but have seen it strike people dearest to me.

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First of all sorry for this wall of text, and for it taking the whole morning to write. Since it was so much content I kept being interrupted.
So here's what I gathered from the current Day, bearing in mind that I stopped the read at comment #79 (so content written later may change my perceptions) and that I picked this during a dozen small reads of 2 or 3 comments per turn in my phone: Atlo: has been active and poked at Scene and Catventurer, picking an argument with the latter. He has shown to be a capable player and does seem to be asking questions, tho I'm not sure what he is seeing in Catventurer that makes him doubt her.

GR/MKW: started in typical GR fashion, that doesn't say much about his motivations. Didn't strike me as scummy, which is good since he was usually easy to read. It is true that he got more unpredictable in some later games, but it's also true that the low amount of games we had lately devolved the Mafia abilities on all of us. So I guess he's closer to the Town pile. Then, surprising absolutely no one, he was banned once again and now we have this complete stranger in his place.

joppo: no comment, but probably Townie. Maybe neutral. Wanna read more from this fellow.

Catventurer: she is somewhat hard to read for me, mostly because she focuses a lot of energy on her cats (even in her comments) and I'm inherently programmed to think cat lovers are all good people. She did pass up a low effort opportunity to attack Micro (#19) tho she wold appear a bit scummy if she took it. Then she takes it anyway later (#32). However, her reasoning is not too out of place if you think it was still RVS, so it barely moves the scum-o-meter. After that she follows Trent against Scene (#34) in what appears to be her first serious vote, and defends Maxleod tho she has a reason I can understand. Last she defends herself against Atlo. Her defense appears townie but the part where she lists all the things that piss her off feels a bit exaggerated and somewhat LAMIST.

Scene: starts wacky-scummy, then appears to get more serious when Trent prods him. His post #62, while not the bastion of townie content, is a step in the right direction but too timid for a player that has considerable experience. I wanna see more of him, but there's nothing I'd call overtly scummy post RVS.

Micro: started his usual self. Hasn't exactly posted a myriad of content (tho I'm not one who can point fingers about this so far). It appears he was in RVS even as late as #54, and later he votes for maxleod on the basis of "we need a flip" and nothing more. Wouldn't be surprised to find him the "lazy" sort of scum going for the low hanging fruit.

maxleod: Wow, even I had more content than him before this wall of text. I hope he can post more in the rest of this game and future games. It is impossible to gauge what he is if there's nothing to pick apart.

Yog: yog is always hard to read by tone, so I have to go for content which is fairly harder to measure. He's usually goofy the whole Day 1, but this game he has said he won't take that long to enter serious mode. But he didn't give us much so far, despite writing a fair amount of comments. Post #62 is nothing but a warning that our time is short. Post #63 could be preparation to yeet maxleod, tho I wouldn't expect scum!Yogs to go after low hanging fruit. Then at #77 he is not wrong that GR/MKW hasn't given us much during Day 1 despite active but that is not uncommon for GR.

@Yog: what is that comment 14 about? And can you explain what gives you the notion that Catventurer and scene are less likely to be Mafia than average?

Lift: He has all the reason in the world to not have posted anything juicy. Wouldn't vote him even if it would lead to a NoLynch.

Trent: Has been active, appears to be scumhunting, but Scum!Trent is known for be pretty good at hiding under a sheep's skin. Yog once said you find scum!Trent by waiting to see if he's actually hunting wolves. I concur so far. Woudn't vote him today.

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So the hottest train is Maxleod's. I don't really like this; like Catventurer said it is just giving scum a free kill and hoping our PRs will make good choices. But on the other hand if he stays at this level of contribution he's giving us nothing to work with AND possibly also be scum. I find that unlikely because a scum that doesn't post risks being eliminated early like Maxleod is at risk now.

IF we had time I'd say we save it for Day 2 in the hopes that maxleod will improve until EoD2. That isn't a possibility now so I'm hesitantly going to vote him instead of splitting wagons and risk ending with a NL. But my first suspect would be Micro.

Pre-post Edit: Oh I saw he was lynched. Not a concern anymore.

vote maxleod