This is all true, but it's absolutely something scum!catte would take into account. As scum I have to actively dampen my enthusiasm for playing scum. But in this case it's all natural baby!

It would be more accurate to say that I thought that everyone might have grown tired of me being in an endless war with Frosty every single game. It is not conductive if the same two people are always trying to murder each other every single game starting on day one. However I've come to realize that:
1. Nobody wants a truce between Frosty and myself.
2. Dare I say that some might even enjoy watching me attack him relentlessly every single game?

So we'll just go back to full out war against Frosty, which I was already considering doing after a comment he made in Post #154 that I didn't have time for last night. So here we are:


You had to go there and say that, didn't you?

I sent you that friend request after the LucasArts game, which I did as a sign of good will. I can separate myself from the game. Obviously you cannot. Since you never accepted the request, I moved on. No big deal.

I also apologized in the observation thread about getting your alignment wrong and trying to get you lynched on Day one. Here's a fact that you seem to forget in your relentless dislike of me: it was the mafia team that killed you during night one while my role was vanilla town.

The only reason for you to bring it up in this thread is to let everyone know that:
1. You just don't like me.
2. You take everything I say about you personally.
3. You obviously dwell on crap.
4. You're still holding a grudge over a mistake I made several games ago.

Even if your goal is to shame me, it only makes you look like a small, petty person... especially when I have tried to explain to you multiple times in the second game to no avail how your behavior always makes you look guilty in an effort to try to help you stop looking so guilty all the time.

You really do need to learn to forgive people. By forgive, I specifically mean by it's dictionary definition of "stop feeling angry or resentful toward (someone) for an offense, flaw, or mistake." This is something you do for you because the person you are being angry and resentful towards (ME) isn't loosing any sleep over it and isn't thinking about you at all when not looking at this thread. Channel Elsa, and Let it Go. Forgiveness does not absolve the mistake. It happened. We get over it and move on.

Here's some facts about you:
1. Lynching you only aids Team Town.
2. Team Mafia should want to keep you alive and in the game because you really are a distraction.
3. Anyone not voting to lynch Frosty is being Pro-Mafia and Anti-Town.

Even if your alignment is Town, all of the above are true because removing you from the game also removes all distractions that you create.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm done with breakfast and need to attend to a few things - back in a few hours.

Maybe because you quickly shifted your vote off of dedo with the slightest pushback for you to explain your remarks

Or maybe because you have changed your vote FIVE times since D1 Started?

Joe(I'll give you this one for RVS)
Catventurer
Catte
Dedo
Lift
Dedo again
Bucktooth

It's hard for me to look at someone pointing the finger so indesciminately without thinking that you're just trying to throw options at the wall and see which one gains a following.

Okay. I got done with stuff sooner than I thought and had time to go digging up a post in an old thread:

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_game_77_masters_of_the_universe_edition/post294

It's not out of character for me to defend Frosty if I think he's town. In that game, I was under the impression that Scene was misquoting Frosty (in Post #269) in an effort to railroad Frosty into being mis-lynched. It was literally the best evidence that I had in that game that he could be town-aligned because he's own posts kept having me think otherwise.

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My only prior motivation for voting for Frosty in this game is that I find him annoying, which I will admit isn't the best reason.

Telika still looks like a better lynch option because I do think that Lift is Town. Maybe it a bias towards the fact that Lift is a helpful guy, but it is what it is. Consequentially, Telika's focus on that one post is primarily why I think he is mafia.

But look, I'm always happy to pile on Frosty if others are voting that way so changing my vote back is nowhere near as reluctant as it might look. It's more like someone says vote Frost, then I show up with a rope (or maybe a dodgy notebook since my anime girl is Misa.)

If I'm wrong where Lift is mafia and Telika is town, all I can say is oops.

The more I read of Frostburn's posts I've gone from finding him 'Probably Town' to being all over the place. While I'll jump on the lynch if necessary I think I should offer and alternative wagon off my current read of the game. But I think if we do misslynch it will at least highlights suspicions on others at an earlier stage. For instance if I'm night killed, when I show up Town it shows a genuine read from a Town perspective.

Yes I did follow the least popular player's lead in Frostburn because I thought he hit upon a tennant I believe in. Lurky players who don't solve yet post without any solving are quite likely Scum

You are incorrect that I only singled yourself out. If you read all my posts you'd realise I highlighted 4-5 players who either had not posted or were posting without trying to solve the game. So at best you're scimreading. So you either aren't trying to solve or you are not good at solving. For both of these reasons

Unvote Telika

Vote Dedoporno

And I actually like some of your analysis today, it took a while but it came. I'm kind of erring on voting for you based on that. Many have done much less. It's just the fact you skimmed over some of my posts not paying attention to everything I hightlighted that was a bit of a red flag to me. Could it be simply a busy schedule or a mistake as a townee, possibly.

I've never accepted any friend requests. I've also never been resentful of anyone in this game, I'm not a very emotional person at all. I Wasn't sure how you thought I could be scared of talking to girls, and only possible reasons that came to mind were the friend request and me being extremely Virgo.

This is starting to get a bit awkward but I feel like is normal for Catv so that's good.

Exactly my point. I Didn't.

I have no idea what's going on with Joe. I haven't seen him IRL in a while, but his housemate (who I am also friends with and see much more frequently) doesn't seem to think anything is wrong. I sent him a message via GOG PM weeks ago and he still hasn't replied so fuck knows what's going on there. Is he still in that MU game?

I'm technically not supposed to talk about it but https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37302-game-with-longer-deadlines-2?p=6380914&viewfull=1#post6380914 shouldn't hurt.

Vote Catventurer

Dunno. He seems suspicious

Good to know, thanks.

How about that RVS vote?


What, why? The fact that people are still adjusting to your more forgiving opener towards Frostburn, I wouldn't say that means everyone/anyone prefers you keep bickering. It's just that some people notice something outside of what they have come to expect which can be meaningful in this particular game. To be honest this statement is weird on its own.

With a risk of playing Devil's advocate for someone who's alignment I'm not sure about and may end up biting me later on - these aren't facts but opinions. I can see where you're coming from regarding point 2.


Does this mean you strongly believe Lift and Telika don't share the same alignment?


That's fine but you put a few people in the same bucket but decided to highlight just one of them. I don't know the list by heart but I'm pretty sure it was more than 4 players. That should mean at least some aren't quite likely scum. Also, while some people rely on lurking when they are scum you apparently don't know how I like to play - I have never ever hid nor lurked for the sake of staying outside of the spotlight and attracting attention. When I'm not saying too much I either don't have a lot of time to work with or I don't have a lot to say that hasn't been said already. So your argument is invalid but I suppose you can't know that. Or maybe you're scum and you don't care as it works for you that way.

You listed them, yes, but you took special interest in me, asked others if there is something there. That's what I mean by singling out. I haven't skimmed your posts, I read everything and I addressed the bits that I consider noteworthy.

Sorry if you feel I didn't give enough importance to your reads and if that has somehow hurt your feelings. Do know that I did read and took note of what was interesting to me. If this isn't what you mean then I'm just not following but I'm not good anyway, so it's all good.


Oh, OK then. He needs prodding and smacking around if it's only that.

"You're the evil classmate!" Nadeko pointed at Kitami. "And you're the evil classmate!" She then pointed at Asuka. "Everyone gets to be the evil classmate!"

Half the class circled Nadeko, glaring bullets at her. She's totally oblivious to the predicament she's in.

VOTECOUNT:
FrostburnPhoenix (5) - Lifthrasil, bucktoothgamer, Catventurer, Telika, Atlo
bucktoothgamer (2) - JoeSapphire, FrostburnPhoenix
Catventurer (2) - dedoporno, csanjuro
supplementscene (1) - catte
dedoporno (1) - supplementscene

Not voting: Ambiti0nZ
Closest to exclusion is FrostburnPhoenix, at L-2. That means two more votes will lynch him.

In case there's any errors in the votecount, please let me know.

Day ends in 21 hours.

Regarding Joe's absence: he has reached out to me and told me he lost internet at home and can't access GOG from work. Hopefully it's resolved sooner than later.

Hmmm.

Unvote Scene

Vote Frost

It's not well substantiated, but Frost has rubbed me up slightly the wrong way thus far.
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It's not even that! Turns out he was eliminated from that game nearly three weeks ago.

Seriously, the irony.

You just put him at L-1, huh?

OK then.


unvote Catventurer

vote FrostburnPhoenix

It would have been this easy.


Now that you have stated your "reasoning" and taken a more firm stance do you mind backing off and letting the guy speak before someone hammers "accidentally"? This wagon is gaining so much traction in a terribly easy manner.

I Want Bucktooth to respond before I claim.