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JoeSapphire: Please, if I were mafia and Pooka told me to be safe-claim commuter you can be sure I would not be claiming commuter. Especially not day two after getting a load of votes for being noncontributive.
What is your safe claim?

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JoeSapphire: ZFR how do you feel about being cop-cleared?
I'd rather someone else was, but OK I guess.
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dedoporno: But it's making you think that, isn't it? Such type of scheme (if fake) has Joe's name written all over it. As for the safe-claim part - how often do you see Commuters running around in our games? It's not like he claimed a Cop or a Tracker or something that happens to appear quite often. If I was in his shoes I'd go in exactly this direction - pick something unlikely to be in the game that plays well with the perceived narrative and go from there. Anyway, I'm not going to try and persuade you that he's lying as I'm uncertain myself, just make sure you're not giving too much credit where it might not be due.
I suppose. As Lift said, I'm not Joe, so I don't really know.
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JoeSapphire: Please, if I were mafia and Pooka told me to be safe-claim commuter you can be sure I would not be claiming commuter. Especially not day two after getting a load of votes for being noncontributive.
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ZFR: What is your safe claim?
Town Commuter ;p



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JoeSapphire: ZFR how do you feel about being cop-cleared?
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ZFR: I'd rather someone else was, but OK I guess.
But do you think you're playing differently because of it?
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ZFR: What is your safe claim?
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JoeSapphire: Town Commuter ;p
That was easy. ;)

While you're at it, care to name your scum buddies? ;D
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ZFR: I'd rather someone else was, but OK I guess.
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JoeSapphire: But do you think you're playing differently because of it?
I can afford to be more agressive I guess.

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PookaMustard: Not voting: catte
catte, you are given the opportunity to turn this into NL-chicken.
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ZFR: catte, you are given the opportunity to turn this into NL-chicken.
There will be no need to worry about a NL.....i'll see to that(as per post 696) if need be.
(though I hope to try and avoid such nasty possible eventualities)
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GymHenson: (reminder to all players to read post 696)
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Besides the above, I am also okay with being the lynch(if need be, I mean, if no other lynch is viable) because my mind is also somewhat elsewhere due to IRL weighing on my heart/mind: a relative of mine was admitted into the hospital with collapsed lung and pneumonia(and possibly other issues) not too long ago, and also I have other issues on my mind as well.
(it's partially due to the above that I haven't posted as much as I normally do)
I'm super sorry to hear that, you and they are in my prayers and I hope everything gets better soon.

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dedoporno: There is a also a scenario where scum!Joe was afraid of a Tracker or another similar role if he did something else other than nothing. I thought about the whole thing last night - the way I see it working where Joe is scum is he claimed Commuter and held back on whether he used his ability to give himself wiggle room and feel the room more before deciding to say he did. Claiming he went out bears the risk of someone calling him out on it but also gives him the option to qualify for being the one who prevented the NK. On the other hand saying he didn't use his ability (in case he didn't do anything detectable) is safer but also makes it clear someone else was responsible for the save. Sure, he doesn't get potential credit for it but maybe the real hero gets outed somehow in the process so there's a smorgasbord of nice targets on N2. Or he's just campTown lady Commuter Joe and all of this is one big mess.

I'm starting to sound like him, don't I?
hmmp good thinking now I'm confused. Which of our two would-be-lunchees is scum, if either?

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Lifthrasil: Commuter who didn't do anything in N1 is an awfully convenient claim. ... Although I kind of think that scum-Joe would have tried to leave the possibility open that he might have been the one to prevent the NK. I.e. scum-Joe might have claimed to have used his ability, without having gotten any flavour feedback. This wouldn't have tied him down too much but would still have implied, that he probably was the target of the NK and therefore not scum. ... But he claimed not to have used his ability. I.e. we know he wasn't the NK-target. Which doesn't say anything about his alignment. Therefore, it appears that he is telling the truth. Because a scum-Joe, if he played smartly, would have claimed to have used his power.
What do you think of his not wanting to reveal at first if he had Commuted or not?

how common are so-called "safe-claims" and has Pooka ever had a game with them before? I know him having or not having them in the past means naught for this game, but suck knowledge might be of weighted interest if he always had them or claimed to never have them.
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Microfish_1: Which of our two would-be-lunchees is scum, if either?
Yes.

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Microfish_1: how common are so-called "safe-claims" and has Pooka ever had a game with them before?
I've only seen it done once when our scum team was given it and Trent used it but kind of blew the opportunity. I've heard it's a thing in other communities though so definitely not unheard of.
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Microfish_1: I'm super sorry to hear that, you and they are in my prayers and I hope everything gets better soon.
Thank you(I also hope all is or will soon be well with you and yours).

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Microfish_1: hmmp good thinking now I'm confused. Which of our two would-be-lunchees is scum, if either?
If we had the "Dr Loveless(will willd west, the movie) option" available, i'd perhaps say lynch us both to be sure.


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Microfish_1: What do you think of his not wanting to reveal at first if he had Commuted or not?
Could go either way. .....could be a town!Joe weighing the risks/rewards of giving up that info, or scum!joe conversing with their scum buddies and/or mulling it over a bit first before making a decision on what(if anything) to say about that.

Of course, I think it's more likely the former rather than the latter.
@Pooka

12 hours 3 minutes left - I REQUEST 1 DAY prolongation (IRL just happened, sorry)
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GymHenson: Thank you(I also hope all is or will soon be well with you and yours).

Could go either way. .....could be a town!Joe weighing the risks/rewards of giving up that info, or scum!joe conversing with their scum buddies and/or mulling it over a bit first before making a decision on what(if anything) to say about that.

Of course, I think it's more likely the former rather than the latter.
Thank you.

SO: you think Joe is town then? or did you mispeak?


Micro stares at certain furs at the fur trader's, looking for secret messages from ice-cream & Sorbet sellers
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Cadaver747: 12 hours 3 minutes left - I REQUEST 1 DAY prolongation (IRL just happened, sorry)
First off, sorry to hear about IRL(if it's something serious and etc).

Second: really?

Reagan flips one of his own tables out of frustration. He then regains his composure and says "apologies friends, for my small outburst"

I thought you were going to hammer if need be and that would be that? What changed your mind? Hoping for more to jump on the Joe wagon? Something else?
BUMP
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GymHenson: I thought you were going to hammer if need be and that would be that? What changed your mind? Hoping for more to jump on the Joe wagon? Something else?
You thought right, I'm going to hammer, but I might need to leave town for 6 or more hours. I don't want to risk it.
Replies to Micro and Cadaver below:
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Microfish_1: SO: you think Joe is town then? or did you mispeak?
I was suggesting possibilities as to why a town!joe or scum!joe might do such a thing. I, of course, think Joe is more likely scum than town.

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Microfish_1: Micro stares at certain furs at the fur trader's, looking for secret messages from ice-cream & Sorbet sellers
"Ah, another potential sale...come, come......bargains at great prices, my friends!"

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Cadaver747: You thought right, I'm going to hammer, but I might need to leave town for 6 or more hours. I don't want to risk it.
Out of curiosity: did you read Post 696? If so, you'd see that there is no risk of there being another NL(plus Catte still has yet to vote). ;)
(no votes in this post...tho I have to admit I am tempted to save everyone 24 more hours of waiting for this "day" to end)
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Microfish_1: BUMP
Forgot to say: thanks for the very loud bump. :)

Also just letting ya know(in case ya missed it) that I replied to ya in the post above this one.

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To All

Going to bed in about 20 minutes. Will see what there is to see when I get up.....C?