Sorry for dropping off the radar. Crazy day at work. But for sake of completeness: though I kind of shared Dessimu's mistrust of agent (the second time I agree with Dessimu), I probably still would have voted yes, since on a team I am on I have one known alignment and just have to evaluate the others. So being on a team helps for one's own analysis. Also picking a complete successful team might have been a promising strategy.

But onward to the next team: interesting choice not to include yourself, HijacK. I think I can see why. I also see two possible reasons why you might include JMich. But I would like you to elaborate on the reason for the other three?

I think he's spy drealmer. The shifty eyes, you know.

5th Team gets auto-passed. So we've got a bit of time before then.

Welp, the team is not official yet, so I will wait for everyone to chime in and give some thoughts and suggestions. It's a team game, after all.

Well, I got a good feel for JMich and the first mission succeeded, so I give him the benefit of the doubt. Cristi has been reading similar to previous town games. Usually she struggles a bit as scum, but I haven't read that in her posts so far. drealmer... I just read him as crazy town drealmer. Not much outside of that. Though I see quite a few people mistrust him as usual. Ixam provided some good thoughts to discussion, so I think his play is genuinely resistance.

I'm inclined to agree with you for now wrt JMich, cristigale, and Ixamyakxim.

However, I don't think drealmer7 is his usual overly-analytically-verbose self.

bbbbbbut....why you think that? *pouts*

I could totally go verbose analytics if that would make you all more comfortable...

heck, I don't even know what I'm doing that has me as being "crazy town drealmer"....I'm just talking about stuff! trying to generate some discussion that I think benefits Resistance

I like the proposed team. vote submitted

You've certainly calmed down from past games, but the mannerisms are almost the same, just a tad tamer.

While I'd have preferred a team of only new members, I can live with only me a member of it. Vote sent.

Team hasn't officially been submitted yet. If you look at the Sign Up OP, the format is as following:

Mission 2, Team Proposal 4
Team Captain: Leonard03
Members: Leonard03, Bookwyrm, TheGOGfather

No need to send votes in yet. There is yet time to discuss.

FYI to all players, in order for a mission proposal to become "official" it has to be posted in the super-de-duper-special format:

Mission 2, Proposal 1
Team Captain: whoever
members: thatGUY, evilMcEvil, BillyBob, IceCreamSandwiches

otherwise it doesn't "count". In this case, HijacK's proposal was not a final one (he didn't mean for it to be either). I don't mean to be a stickler over the format, but otherwise it becomes too confusing over what is actually a proposal and what is just an idea.

You're breaking my heart guys...

Pretty sure I mentioned trust drives my votes and that I vote no on most proposals. I signposted my no vote to hell and back.

I liked the team for obvious reasons: three people that passed a mission, plus the captain will always trust himself. It's logical follow up team, allows great comparison of votes. The kind of team choice Hijack is going with is for shit and giggles as far as I'm concerned - it helps with specific player reads sure... maybe? That's for hijack to explain if he wants.

But agent's team choice. Well, the votes on that and how they changed versus the votes on a 75% similar team that passed a mission no less... those are interesting. And in that sense, I really want to hear why Ix trusts Agent so much. I mean, that he'd trust the other 3 a bit makes some sense, they voted pass earlier. But Agent?

Ix and the folks that distrust Agent, please duke it out will ya? I'll be here having some popcorn and trying to figure out which of you knows more than he is saying - ergo, which of you is scum as hell.


By the way, this one I'm voting no as well and have no issue saying so already. I'm resistance (duh), so for these 4 to all be resistance you're almost logically implying the team that passed mission 1 had two spies on it - ( I know I know, you'll just attack me and Dess instead I guess). Anyway, 2 spies is possible, but if I need to bet, I'll bet the other way instead.

Whatever, permutations are quite a few, and I already caught myself messing up the logic... but it really doesn't look good for you Hijack, looks like a real slip because by same logic as me, you should see odds of getting spy in your choice from not including yourself are too high.

The only puzzle here if indeed you slipped is why you didn't sabotage already. Maybe there were two spies in there afterall and that would put a special light on choosing JMich to go. Will think more in the morning after more folks react and help think this through.

By the way drealmer, especially with Hijack kind of getting cozy with you, I also kinda would love one of your "overly-analytically-verbose" contributions please.

Night all,

^^^ this. This. This. I like how you play. And now I'm suspicious you're a spy as well, because you're way too good at this.

Oh? Glad my playstyle is entertaining.

I don't get you. Agent's team made sense. You liked it. Voted no. Now you're calling Ix out for voting yes? Explain this to me, because I seem to have lost the trail of thought.

By the way, if you paid attention, you would have seen that the team proposition hasn't even been sent.

I don't have your logic, and to be honest, outside of reads I have nothing else to go by. Also, since you're so adamant in bashing my picks, how about you explain why you voted no after saying you liked the first team?

So, apparently there is no way for all the 4 people on the picks I chose to be resistance. K. Gucci. Got that. But the way you word that argument is just nonsensical. You liked the first team. Voted no. However, that one was logic. This one is for shits and giggles and after some permutations, which by the way you haven't really explained, this team is for shits and giggles. K. Let me ask you a question. Do you like any teams at all? Because I have the impression you're here just to vote no for just about anything. So far logic hasn't really helped me understand your point.

Also, I'm still waiting for suggestions. Everyone's a critic, yet no one is able to give me a decent suggestion for picks, and one that is backed with some argument at that.

@ all,

as soon I posted and saw the newer posts I just wanted to scream and edit to add more stuff... now I'm showered and back to add:

@ Agent

Smart of you. I play the same if I'm spy as I already implied to Jmich. The better to stick the knife later - but sooner or later someone has to trust the other. Keep your eye on the ball, I mean, on the votes. Right?

I liked Agent's team choice because I wanted to see how the votes on it would be. Following so far? Saying I distrusted it anyway was both true and signposted how I'd vote. If it head faked you, that's your problem. Up your game.

It's not that your team choice is logically impossible to be all resistance. It's that given what I know about myself, plus the result of mission 1, the odds are low as heck. And that by not choosing yourself, you both make that picture cleaner - ergo you're suspicious as heck - but at the same time really threw my reads so far into a bloody mess. If I'm not having a brainfart, this does mean you and Jmich and a third wheel somewhere and I did not see that coming.

Then just to point out, given how your team choice was actually just a draft proposal - and yes, I missed that and was not the only one given others sent votes (including cautious Jmich, and ain't that funny ah ah) - your better out would be to go oopsie and agree and include yourself. That you didn't yet means I'm on to something OR that you actually are the cocky superstar persona we all love to hate or hate to love - just can't back down if it means the team suffers, Resistance be damned but I got to look good. This is a team sport son.

Also, to needle you even more (duh), it's amazing how you react to your own medicine. Yes, I find your playstyle very entertaining, I'm in the hates to love you camp. How do you find mine so far? Too cool or too hot?



Yo JMich,

You following my implied math / logic?

Maybe you can take a stab at him, erm, I mean at explaining to him?