Missed this earlier...
No, I'm not aware of any other role. How could I be? But the fact I had a power which only works against fire-based attacks made me seriously consider the existence of such. Just as others are now worried about poison and bullets, yet as far as I can tell, there is no evidence anyone died by these means...

Day broke just as I had to go off for most of the day. I'm reading the Daybreak post and apparently a couple long bookwyrm posts (gee, I'm not at all surprised, actually) and all that has gone on since. Hopefully I can get it all read and contribute all in 1 sitting.

GAH! In the middle of typing that ^ the power flickered SUPER fast and the computer turned off and I couldn't get it turned back on. And then when I did get it turned back on, my oldest HD (that has a lot of stuff on it that needs backed up!) didn't register in the bootup and was gone from hardware when I came on to windows. I breathed a minute, knowing that the impact of the loss hadn't hit me yet, and also knew I needed to reboot and see if it came back. Took a dramatic moment, then rebooted, and, *phew*, the drive is still there. UGH!

Okay, now to reading! WOO!

@cristi What CSPVG got in file(mentioning poison), it was either a joke or a red herring.

@bookwyrm Does revealing those numbers give us any helpful information? 2 seems okay to me.

RAID 1 that sucker; a software RAID should be good enough. Read times will be better until it really does die for good.

<The Wallflower Vote Count>
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Let me see...gotta count up all the votes...run them through SPSS...

hang on....ok, yes, I think that's it.


1. Drealmer
2. Krypsyn
3. Trent
4. Bookwyrm
5. RW
6. Flub
10. cristi
11. Hunter

I think I got that right. Let me know if I made any mistakes.

That's the list of people not voting, btw.

You have a deadline. It is currently set to 7 pm PST on Thursday, Mar 31. Yes, I know that's not a convenient time for many of you, so you might just have to act + vote in the 72.6 hours between now and then.

No, I was cooking. It definitely wasn't meth that I was cooking. No sir, not me.

Also, I see one way to take a guess at whether I'm insane or paranoid, but it requires a lynch and doesn't verify whether CSPVG was insane or naive (since he's dead and can't get any more reads). If you mean reread the existing game thread, then I don't know which part you mean.

That's the problem, I don't have the information to determine whether it is more beneficial to town to hold them back or to reveal them (or some subset of them). The numbers are just numbers to me; ID's to link players and their cases.

I can run various math functions on them, if you'd like. Let me know what you want. Would you like to know the sum mod 3?

Okay there are lots of thoughts going around in my head, I'm not sure what is useful/helpful to share, really.

To me it seems like we have 2 options, and they are the same 2 options I was on yesterday.

Lynch bookwyrm or vote no-lynch and see what happens.

Yesterday I almost made this elaborate post about bookwyrm being a mafia framer and detailing how he was going to set it up and take down town, but it started to look reminiscent of my ramblings in previous games that suddenly turn the D1 lynch on to me because I'm just spewing wild theories trying to push a vote on somenoe, and so I held off and tried to keep it simpler.

My post was pretty much going to detail exactly what has happened as it has happened. And the basis for it all was under the theory of bookwyrm being a mafia framer. I actually think he might have been trying to get lynched yesterday, but knew that if he didn't he could still play it off as a paranoid/insane/false-read-getting cop come D2, which is exactly what he's done.

However, there's no proof still and it is possible that CSPVG was really a framer (fact checkers?), but my sense/read of the situation is that wyrm is the baddie here. He's said multiple things that seem rather LAMISTly placed and insurance-creating. Like he's building a big story for us all to swallow. And I just did I refresh before posting this, and see his #531 post, and that is exactly another example of exactly the same thing.

If this isn't the case, and he is actually simply a useless town-cop, well, there's only 1 way to be sure (I typed this before refreshing to see he just said the same thing, the insurance for himself.)

Other than that:

I think JMich maybe tried to save himself and failed, because he was beyond saving as it was, but no way to be sure and it is good to keep all possibilities in mind.

I think I'll go ahead and get the bidding started:

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vote bookwyrm627

very comfortable with that - I think he's lying, simple as that

Oh, also, I think the setup is possibly:

2 mafia (and we have 1 dead thanks to:), 1or2SK types, 7or8town

The answer is 2, in case anyone was curious. However, I did the math in my head, so I might be wrong. I am confident the answer is no greater than 2.

You sure seem fixated on this no-lynch idea...
I don't see how no-lynch helps us at all given two deaths a night. It just makes it nigh impossible for us to even possibly get the remaining scum.

According to the Wiki, a Mafia Traiter is considered 1/2 scum because they cannot kill and their only use is numbers on a lynch. Far more likely there are 2 full mafia alive making the start 2.5 mafia out of 11 with one SK of some type. So, in short we still have 3 enemies about out of the 8 people left. Sure seems a terrible time to no-lynch...

As to Bookwyrm, I'm still thinking about it.
On one hand, his initial actions are consistent with a mafia cop with a N0 action, although the part that throws me is why would he even bother revealing in that case. A no-lynch would seem to serve him fine and he was in no danger of being lynched at the time of the reveal.

The deadline has shifted forward by 25 minutes. It is now 6:35 PM (PST) on Thursday, 3/31.

It seems you are hinting at lynching Hunter to see if you are insane or paranoid. If Hunter is lynched and flips town all that really tells us is we probably lynched the wrong person on Day 1 and should have lynched you instead as two townies would be dead by us following your lead. If he flips mafia it means that possibly both of you were insane or paranoid and this game is all kinds of off centered. The bad part is if we had lynched you Day 1 and you flipped town then we would be doing this same dance routine with CSPVG, and I hope this is not the bastard part bler was warning us about.

If we have two town cops in this game I can't see both being insane/paranoid, it would be such a handicap to town. That means I would be against lynching Hunter to see if you are insane or paranoid, it's too much of a risk seeing how it looks like there's a possibility of multiple kills each night.

My feeling yesterday when CSPVG flipped town was that you played us, and I'm not sure that feeling has changed.

Vote Bookwyrm

I was hoping that you'd receive a town report on someone on n1 which would've confirmed you as insane cop and given us 1 scum to lynch on d2. Even if it isn't useful now, it might be in the future so I think you should reveal what you know.

Vote Bookwyrm

I'm not buying it. Re-reading, I'm getting the feeling he's scum and was tipped off to the Double-voter power and used it early to establish town cred. He tried too hard for it. It also doesn't make sense for a cop to attempt to be the first confirmed town and make himself a scum target. Besides, is an actual non-vanilla role going to also have that?