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Posted December 19, 2020
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They were told, but the west on the whole is largely thinking of #1, first, even over their own damn families.
Typical story in early days of pandemic. Some tourist returns not only from affected country but affected area. He was asked to stay home in his own room for two weeks. Next day he goes to work to the city hall, then goes to a huge shopping mall, visits a few friends. A few weeks later number of cases in that city goes up to from 3-4 to 10000+

All because they were just *asked* to stay home.
Posted December 19, 2020
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RockyFour1 So now you decided to derail HK topic to 1989 suddenly. I don't need kids to tell me that story. Because it's in history books already. I even know some details about it. Not only some ctrl-c, ctrl-v. Initially it was a peaceful protest. And army did nothing. Then someone instigated those students to go for more violent stuff. Blood was spilt, but even then army didn't do a shit just yet. A few people got killed and then they started to attack soldiers, soldiers opened fire, tanks were rolling and and the whole thing quickly escalated a bloody mess. Army sure overreacted and used excessive force. Also i know that China got severe UN level sanctions for that. For a looong time. Also current government got literally nothing to do with that - most people who were giving orders are either dead now or enjoying their pension.

Also i've seen in all the years since then how same shit happened in many countries - initially peaceful protest being artificially heated up to some bloody shit and then either government shoot them all killing even stupid kids who were just waving flags there and either it ends with just protesters and some policemen/soldiers dead or it leads to a civil war shitshow with hundreds of thousands people dead. Latter being the third party plan ofc.

Now back to topic of HK i was talking about. Only local police was dealing with protesters. No journalists were killed by accident, let alone executed. No thousands of dead protesters either. And no UN level sanctions.

So if there's an idiot he'll be in your mirror.
Post edited December 19, 2020 by Thunderbringer
Posted December 20, 2020

They were told, but the west on the whole is largely thinking of #1, first, even over their own damn families.
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Thunderbringer: Typical story in early days of pandemic. Some tourist returns not only from affected country but affected area. He was asked to stay home in his own room for two weeks. Next day he goes to work to the city hall, then goes to a huge shopping mall, visits a few friends. A few weeks later number of cases in that city goes up to from 3-4 to 10000+

All because they were just *asked* to stay home.
This ain't the early days, anymore, though.
Posted December 20, 2020
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kohlrak: Taxation and teargas are a far cry from shooting unarmed citizens. Even as bad as Waco was, there's still some plausible deniability there that the US government can cling to. But China? Common. It's not about a generalized "human atrocities," but specific ones that we don't accept. Even the US government at least allows us to discuss Waco, Japanese concentration camps, etc.
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rjbuffchix: It's not as far a cry as you think, at least if you're willing to honestly and intellectually engage with these topics. As, the fact that some oppression is arguably less bad than others, doesn't cancel out it being oppression. Consider too there were victims of slavery who viewed their masters as kind and I'm sure they also engaged in rationalizations like how "at least here it's not like how it is over there" on another plantation.

If you (not you personally, anyone) are going to boycott GOG because of delisting this game, in the name of standing against oppression, cool, but there is a lot more to consider in your daily life. That's what is... annoying? For lack of a better word. Most if not all of you here are posturing as though you universally stand against oppression when in reality you fashionably stand against some select examples of oppression.

The cherry on the cake is that us loyal customers are in danger of losing the only viable DRM-free store around, just because people want to politically posture for perceived social points. Very ironically, they will also criticize countries that have a system of literal social points. You can't make this stuff up. It should be a short story or something.
Just wanted to say I couldn't agree more with you. Your post is going to be voted down soon by the way. The forums are turning into hivemind.
Post edited December 20, 2020 by SuperLibby72
Posted December 20, 2020
Blame GOG, CDPR and people like you.
Posted December 20, 2020
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pds41: Has OP managed to come up with any actual evidence yet?

Visa and Mastercard are just the payment handlers; their only concern is whether the items that they're processing are legal in the countries they're selling into. Nothing in Devotion is illegal in the Western World (and strictly speaking, it's not illegal in "mainland China" either).

The Pornhub thing was around the allegations of depiction of illegal activity and uploads onto that part of the MindGeek empire. The illegality in question was something that's illegal across the Western World (where GoG is registered) and probably in Russia as well (where OP is based). It was also illegal where poster 3 was based (Germany).

So, without actual evidence, I don't think you can blame the "banks" (note that Visa and Mastercard aren't banks), or anyone but GoG and the "Many Gamers".
Paypal's internal structure has ties to VISA's internal structure. Some employees of one are former employees of the other, and Paypal itself notoriously over-extends it's authority, and not just on legal matters. However, i can't prove that means anything for VISA as this become circumstantial.

My guess is, because of the fear surrounding VISA and Mastercard, this situation with PornHub gave the two a chance to fire a shot off the bowel with plausible deniability for their motives: enough to scare us of what they can do, while simultaneously giving them a way out if someone tried to open an investigation. I've noticed the higher your social status (and i'm pretty low), the more you see hedonism. Therefore, if I imagine the effect i've described earlier is magnified for them, so they're very aware the majority of stuff on pornhub was consentual.

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SuperLibby72: Just wanted to say I couldn't agree more with you. Your post is going to be voted down soon by the way. The forums are trying into hivemind.
It's this issue in particular. I'm seeing people who are on the same side as me on this issue, who are making snide remarks that demonstrate they have no idea that half the people they're agreeing with would not be on their side if we were talking about any other issue.
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