See the post above yours :-)

You're precious. Fortunately subscribestar hasn't caved, but paypal and patreon have been behind alot of censorship already. That's the problem: i don't foresee people giving them the chance. I think you underestimate the power of familiarity. People left things like myspace, 'cause it was annoying as hell to use by the time figured out how to harass you with their profile songs and the like. Until the censorship hits you personally enough to get temp bans, your average user is not going to care enough. It's "too inconvenient" to go to multiple platforms, especially with different URLs and UIs. I'm fine with it, but most people don't seem to be.

If they're not in the chinese market.....then no reason to delist the game...now is there? ;)

They could bring the game back and save face with the user base, and sell to most of the world.....including some chinese who "move" to get the game.

At least that's the move i'd make if I were in charge.....it'd likely gain them a bunch of good pr(or at the very least, slow the hemorrhaging of good will for GOG among the user base).

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Some channels have tripled or more on bitchute(subscriptions) in the past month alone, and keep growing.....I hold out hope.

Many have been getting banned off of big tech lately due to "2020 events in the US" and other things.....so much so that people are actually taking a chance with new things if it means they can talk freely.

I've met no such people. I doubt doubt they're out there, but i don't think it's large enough to matter. Big tech isn't that stupid.

Indeed. Good insight!

If I may say so: you really need to stop taking the black pill.

(I recommend the new thing called "hopium" :))
(to staff reading this, it's a meme about having hope, not an actual drug)

They're out there, and in large numbers(users moving to other tech and off big tech). :)

Doing business in China is like this. "Officially" you're not doing what you're doing. "Officially" the party is not allowing you to do what you're doing. But they let you do and become invested. When the time is right, they'll "officially" destroy you, citing this and that law you were never supposed to break. Unless of course, you surrender your first born and your left testicle / ovary.

Anyone trying to do business will need to prepare for this eventuality. If you don't, you will be put in a compromising situation. Guaranteed.

You've done it before?

It wasn't. Out of 13 million videos (rounded) it was around 130 videos (rounded...134 exactly???) vs. Facebook which had over 12 million and Youtube which still has it easily where someone can stumble across the videos.

Why didn't the guy go after Facebook or Youtube?

Because the reporter is a fundamentalist Anti-Porn activist. His intent (which is clear to those who read the article and could see through his BS) was NOT to take down CP...he doesn't care about that...that portion was only to generate outrage and sympathy from others against PH (and some of his statements were shown to be actual lies by other articles on the situation). His REAL intent (and it looks like he is going to be successful with it) was to destroy and take down PH.

Now that it appears that he has done so, he is bragging about it and talking about extending this same tactic to take down other such sites (but not the Fundy Far Right Evangelical Christian favorite sites of Facebook which has FAR more of this type of activity going on...to the surprise of no one who saw through what he was doing).

That reminds me of some fun times over on Star Citizen a while back. Someone was trying to think of ideas to make it harder to roll griefer accounts, and after I pointed out a couple of relatively easy ways to work around a credit card ban they suggested that the mighty CIG should call up Visa and demand that they only accept certain types of card number. Naturally, I laughed for about ten minutes straight. Even more than the Kaz tweet about CP2077 delisting, though not as much as I laughed while looking at that guy's Twitter history because hot damn that's some quality material.

For those just tuning in, the card networks actually do enforce some restrictions for auto rentals but that's a far larger industry with massive fraud risk, not some random nerd corp that generates a few million in annual sales. And an individual CC # ban, while straightforward to implement, can potentially be disputed and MMOs have a mixed track history of using that to deal with ToS violations.

^This. Some German IT media also reported his, though not in detail. It's scary.

Sorry but that's extremely unlikely. Visa and MasterCard have negligible share of the Chinese market. They were practically only allowed in earlier this year, following years of WTO litigation. The payments market is split between the competing domestic card system UnionPay and eWallet solutions AliPay and Weixin, which together control nearly all of it. Not that they wouldn't like it to change but by now it's too late anyway.

Visa/MC mostly care about US compliance, so the scenario you describe can happen but elsewhere: for example you can't use Western credit cards in Iran and other places sanctioned by the US.

A fundamentalist Christian at new york times? Did i just wake up in the twilight zone? Fox has been controlled opposition for years even before Donald Trump. I think you're onto something, but you have the wrong motive: PH was in the crosshairs of both the left and the right for a while now, for different reasons. Christians like myself are, more or less, out of the picture. As a result, we're learning our lessons: shouldn't try to legislate morality, because you cannot have morality thorugh force, but only through the freely willed choice to avoid the sin that is available. We lost our last shreds of power because we failed to understand that fundamental position.

Also, since when has facebook protected the far right?

EDIT: And Christian criticism of islam is quickly censored off youtube, but death threats from muslims are apparently not against youtube policies. If you need evidence, co look for Acts17 Apologetics on youtube. He's found sneaky ways to avoid his videos getting taken down, but he loves to remind us what he has to do to accomplish that task.

Regardless of how the decision was made GOG chose to blame it on "the gamers" and that's as close to being personally offensive as they could get.

Yes, it may seem wierd to some, but the reporter is a Fundy (or at least allies with them consistently in taking down Pornsites, stripping and escort groups and anything related to them). Supposedly (I think Rolling Stone did an expose on him after his PH article) he has done this before and even got caught up in a lawsuit when one of his false stories actually started people donating money to a group that lied about many of the facets for his story. He didn't really check out his facts.

His most recent story had much of it's research done with a Anti-Porn Christian group where he supposedly spent (once again, according to Rolling Stone and other groups that wrote articles on what was happening to PH after this New York Times article) months with them in concocting the whole thing. Their Site now brags about his article and their role in it supposedly (I haven't visited their site, just taking the other media articles word for it).

I can't say I think PH was a good site or the best of site, BUT this guy lying about his real purpose and deceiving people and groups into reactions to take it down...That just rubs me wrong. It's anti-free speech for one and also trying to censor what is under someone else's control. In some ways it's very similar to the actions people are saying the CCP did to GOG, but in this case it's this reporter who wrote this article and the group behind him.

He is clever though, it actually wasn't a full on article. He wrote it as an 'opinion' piece which means he didn't have to vet his sources, didn't have to do any journalistic integrity, and has more lax rules because it was an OPINION rather than an actual news report.