Notice we suddenly care about chinese interference? Since when has the US government cared? TikTok got caught in the action by Apple, and it's still under debate.

I'm not going to lie and say this is about standing up to oppression in china, 'cause it's not. That boat sailed a long, long time before GOG did this. No, this is about China having the power to oppress us in a slightly annoying way (they can't arrest us). We're seeing a tangible power creep that china, whom we can't form a protest near government buildings since it's untenably far away, is gaining the power to control us. The thing is, china's oppression of it's own people comes up to explain why we don't like them gaining even an ounce of control over us: What we're saying is that they are control freaks in their own country, and we won't tolerate that in our own. The idea of GOG and/or other companies capitulating to the CCP's whims means that they're gaining power to bring their oppressive shit to our land, whether that's by virtue of these companies trying to appeal to a larger audience or something else, i don't really think anyone in particular cares. I just don't want the CCP telling me I can't buy something, any more than I want google telling me i can't look something up.

EDIT: Don't forget what caused the revolutionary war of the US/colonies, or other american countries... It turns out people are really, really uncomfortable with rules that they're separated from by water.

but not the widespread street violence or the coravirus or US election antics or riots in Poland from something about abortio etc..

China was at fault for coronavirus, even if we assume it was some natural occurrence. They've admitting putting certain areas under quarantine but not keeping the airports in those areas closed. In other words, they knew exactly what they were doing. But, hey, the censorship abounds prevents me from finding where i originally read that. The point is: china uses lethal force against actors not posing physical harm. This is a fundamental no-no. We can talk about all kinds of corruption, violence, etc in other countries, but China has always been in a race to the bottom, like North Korea.

Even then, it's irrelevant. I can risk my life if it came down to it to throw a fit in front of the white-house, because it's in my country, if they try to restrict my freedoms. I can't just willy nilly get my ass to 北京 and protest when they want to restrict something i say, want to buy, etc. I'm not a citizen of China, and china is having an influence on me, an american, and my dealings with a polish company, which also is not china. This shouldn't even be hard to understand why this is the hill people are willing to figuratively die on, compared to the other ones.

Thing is - the whole forum turning into Reddit 2.0 for a few days won't affect GOG/CDPR in any way. How many people will actually go for boycott? 1000-1500 in worst case scenario. And that's it. Because the whole issue is nothing but non-issue. GOG delisted or refused to accept a lot of games. And yet it still here.

Cyberpunk 2077 debacle is more of an issue.
And even that one is nothing but temporary setback. Because a) game sold well already b) will be fixed and will be selling like hotcakes.


All it can lead to is to GOG banning politics aside from maybe skimming the surface in topics related to games based on real world events like wars and stuff.

And actually it won't be bad. Because well... there's enough places on the net where people can do that.

They already did, and you can see how much we care. Fundamentally, politics encompasses everything, so it's an untenable rule to enforce. While you likely wouldn't say that pokemon is political, politics managed to encompass it on more than one occasion. The mistake is seeing anything as a sacred space separate from politics. Media is usually about separating yourself from your cares and worries, but it's one of those things that manages to find it's way in. Remember how feminists went after Huniepop? I don't understand why people insist on the notion that pretending that something shouldn't be political results in politics leaving it the hell alone. This should be the lesson we learned with gamergate, comicsgate, and all the other -gates.

You're probably right. For some reason I sense more .."energy"? "vitriol"?..I don't know, but there seems to be a much faster and more vocal outcry over the de-listing of this game versus other GOG controversies, even the issues with Cyberpunk. If my observation of that is correct, I think people identifying so much with politics is probably the reason why.

People who think I am referring HK with genocide are misinformed, potentially retarded.

I am referring to the incident in Bejing at Tiananmen square.

The CPP literally shot into crowds of protestors killing thousands of people for having an opinion.

Calm down, everyone knows about Tianniman square. HK is just more recent. Those trying to conflate the two are engaging, vainly, in sophistry.

You are a moron reading way to much Chinese propaganda, also your points are insensitive, and moronic. They don't even make sense.

Also it was thousands of students not 10-200 dead. It was literally thousands. The CPP executed many reporters, stole lots of film and information, and did many things to try and make the death toll seem lower than it is, but thousands were killed.

Also your an idiot, and even if the government killed 10-200 people, that's still a huge fucking deal.

But in your under developed baby mind, you think this is no big deal.

It's like wow dude, you're mind set, is so fucking whack and selfish, it's hard to comment on you, and I won't be doing it. Your just to big of an idiot. You're here trying to argue a meaning of a definition, which isn't even relevant, and your not even right about it.

It's just too much stupidity in one post for me.

Actually it was found that the covid was out there looong before Wuhan. A year at least.

But if you touched covid topic - one thing is clear about it is that governments of pretty much whole world weren't ready for any kind of pandemic. AT ALL.

In fact many countries were saving money by cutting funds on disease control and specialized hospitals. Con-fucking-gratulations to them for the unlocked achievement on a new Great Depression on a global scale. When it was clear that that it started to spread across the borders what they did? Nothing. They were afraid that 50 days lockdown will hurt economy, "muh tourists..." Congrats. Instead of losing maybe 2-3 billions they lost much more.
Because it's disease control 101 - you have oubreak? Go for full lockdown in affected areas. Disease is spreading across the borders? Close the borders. A month, worst case scenario 3 and poof, no more disease. Because that's how you prevent large scale epidemic/pandemic - by not letting people to roam freely and spread disease. When they finally decided to go for lockdowns it was too late. And no emergency supply of masks and suits, not some very expensive hazmat suits, just very basic ones? Well played for sure. I remember when it all started countries were literally stealing cargo of medical supplies for other countries. I was facepalming for days looking at all that lunacy.
Every single moment some tourist from Africa can bring something new. Every single moment a virus that animals carry can mutate and start to infect people. It can literally happen again in a month. Maybe next time it will be rotavirus and there will be global shortage of diapers. Speaking of which - well played, toilet paper makers - making sheeple to buy more toilet paper in a month than they bought since 1960 was fucking brilliant.

So not being ready for that, not having emergency supplies of stuff that's super cheap and can sit in storage for at least 20 years without going bad. No standard procedure for the situation. That's almost Idiocracy level of stupidity.
And all that petty vaccine bickering instead of joining forces in developing one ASAP. Big farma being the usual self.

"Covid dissidents" aka uneducated dumbwits with a mindset of 6yo kids, more dumb than flat earthers didn't help either. "Masks have holes much bigger than virus, they don't help" - idiots don't know that mask is supposed to prevent liquids from your body that carry the virus, like saliva when you cough from flying to other person and they slighly reduce the chance of it landing right in your mouth or nose when someone else will cough or sneeze. It's not something that can magically prevent you from getting infected but it can greatly reduce the chance.

And then if all that wasn't enough as soon as first wave was over they opened everything and started a lot of public events. Then surprised pikachu faces when second wave hits like a freight train. Now imagine if it was outbreak of something really deadly, like i dunno... new, highly contagious strain of measles. At the end of the first month, the world's largest superpower would have been an island with population of 10000.

I heard November, but i'd like a source on this. I know it was worked on in the Wuhan lab for alot longer, but that's a whole other kettle of fish. The kicker is, we did that for everything, including africa, but not China. China got a special exception. Some states were under a "lockdown" but the exceptions were precisely how COVID spreads, anyway. In America and Italy, we had "hug a chinese person" compaigns, because the Chine--World Health Organisation said it was fine, that it came from bat soup, no human-to-human transmission, and Donald Trump trying to close the damn border, especially from China, was "fucking racist." Unfortunately, most people anymore have short memory spans. That was the Almighty Dollar speaking, there. JIT is the flavor of the day in industry environments, I assume cause it showed so much progress in comp-sci. They were told, but the west on the whole is largely thinking of #1, first, even over their own damn families. The amount of posturing i see every time someone i know gets Kung Flu is astounding. I said the same thing every year with Influenza. The thing is, this actually is more dangerous than Influenza, however it's nowhere near as dangerous as Ebola, and look back to see how the US handled that differently. Hell, SARS-CoV(-1) was handled way, way better. It's dangerous enough to use as a political issue, which is precisely what happened and how it will hopefully be remembered: the disease that was more importnat politically than the average person's life.

And yet you did, just calling names just like every kiddo who can't counter someone else's arguments with facts. Go back to school and don't cry. Reporters? film? Are you using a fucking acoustic modem to connect to internet? Every fucking single person is a reporter right now. I dunno what hole you crawled out from but everyone else got smartphones. Youtube is full of videos from protests from everywhere. Reporters from many countries worked there. No one got "executed" lol.
Because in case you don't know China got legal system also and filming a protest isn't a capital offence. Sure journalist can get whacked by either police or protesters in a clash can get detained then released. Worst case scenario - stray bullet. But it didn't happen this time. Also execution of jounalists gets you UN level sanctions. I don't see any related to that. Nor do i see any official press releases on the matter.

Also CPP? C++?. C++ *interpreter* can execute *code* for sure. If you meant CCP - Chinese Communist Party - they can't execute anyone. Maybe it's a surprise for you but other countries have legal system. Only court can sentence someone to death. Only for crimes that have that kind of punishment and even for that case it's limited to most severe crimes. In other cases it will be a long prison term or life imprisonment.

And again filming protests isn't something that can get you there. It won't even get you in prison in first place, you can get detained, they will take your fingerprints and kick you out in a few hours. Unless you'll be fighting with cops. Then you'll get yourself a few years in hotel that doesn't have any stars.
Also in case you didn't know only local HK police was dealing with protesters.

You're speaking of propaganda yet saying nothing but utter BS. Like every other reddit kiddo. Who doesn't know a fuck about anything but feels the urge to attack others with his expert opinion.

Has OP managed to come up with any actual evidence yet?

Visa and Mastercard are just the payment handlers; their only concern is whether the items that they're processing are legal in the countries they're selling into. Nothing in Devotion is illegal in the Western World (and strictly speaking, it's not illegal in "mainland China" either).

The Pornhub thing was around the allegations of depiction of illegal activity and uploads onto that part of the MindGeek empire. The illegality in question was something that's illegal across the Western World (where GoG is registered) and probably in Russia as well (where OP is based). It was also illegal where poster 3 was based (Germany).

So, without actual evidence, I don't think you can blame the "banks" (note that Visa and Mastercard aren't banks), or anyone but GoG and the "Many Gamers".

I generally came here to see that since GOG does not behave like a company with a conscience (that is, like a company who does not bend before demands from oppressive governments that want to control free speech not only within their borders, but in the outside world, too) I do not feel obliged to behave like a consumer with a conscience. I don't think I'm going to buy any more GOG games.

You are an idiot look up the documentary "The Tank Man". The CPP commanded there army to fire into crowds of unarmed protesters. Also this was a time when the internet was still newish.

Also people did get executed. This is fact, in that instance it was a capital offense to protest.

You are literally so dumb and you don't even know it.