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Wishmaster777: Hi.
Let dead thread die..

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site#search=boycott
Post edited April 26, 2022 by Vendor-Lazarus
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Wishmaster777: Hi.
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Vendor-Lazarus: Let dead thread die..

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site#search=boycott
Not dead, just sleeping until GOG gives people a reason to post here again, and it will happen.
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Wishmaster777: Hi.
Maybe you are, maybe you're not. Who knows...
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Vendor-Lazarus: Let dead thread die..

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site#search=boycott
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paladin181: Not dead, just sleeping until GOG gives people a reason to post here again, and it will happen.
The Sword of Damocles doesn't need to say anything ... it just needs to be there ;-)

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illiousintahl: but I'm here boycotting until steam represents the only viable alternative because GOG ensures they are no longer an alternative, but just more of the same.
Huh? The reason stores like GOG and Zoom Platform exist in the first place is because there is otherwise no viable alternative to Steam. Gabe Newell is literally the one who took physical game purchases away from us.
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Wishmaster777: Hi.
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Vendor-Lazarus: Let dead thread die..

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site#search=boycott
Nope.
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This thread is MEGA unfunny.
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I would rather support steam in the direction they are going than GOG in the direction they are; that's because of a little thing called an inversion of trajectories.
GOG towards an erosion of it's pro consumer stance; and steam towards the linux community and away from Microsofts windows 11 walled garden dreams.
Your choices are yours.
I will not leave this forum; I will not stop my boycott till there is solid evidence in the way of company policy as a matter of public statement that GOG puts in place insurances that firstly DRM debacles do not creep their way in like the recent HITMAN backflip they had to do and that moving forward they are committed to ensuring the industry to which they are a partner of understands that their consumers are not stupid and want a first class digital citizen product not a cut down no-multiplayer version of software & won't tolerate DRM by stealth.
DRM is the issue and GOG doesn't have the balls to make a firm stance and stand by it's niche'; hence it is abandoning it by willful and malicious neglect.
They are running their business into the ground and I will not help it turn into steam; I would rather abandon it to it's fate and take the steam that is already in the market place.
That is the reality GOG has with it's consumer base. Wake up, shape up or ship out.
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illiousintahl: I would rather support steam in the direction they are going than GOG in the direction they are; [...]
This is an interesting point, Illiousintahl! I cannot say that I couldn't agree with it. (Translated to human: "I tend to agree")

So, steam has already conquered the "evil" part of the market (Their "Evil Kingdom"), and it holds an unshakeable stand there. Nothing can oppose it.
Now they decide to venture into the "good" parts (The "Good Kingdom"), and to do it properly they must show some "good" face. Even if it costs them, they can afford that, because the "evil" part provides them with a lot of power.

In the "Good Kingdom" there stands no hero, who could oppose them with adequate power. I hoped that this noble knight would be GOG. He (or she) would gather all the people of the Good Kingdom, would offer them Good Games in reasonable prices, would encourage more of the Good Wizards to create more Good Games, and by this the power of the Good Kingdom would grow, and - by the strength of the united spirits of its inhabitants - would even surpass the power of all the Evil Kingdoms together, showing them the errors of their miserable ways!

Sadly, the armour of that knight no longer shines. He rarely speaks, besides barely recognizable faint whispers: "we are working on it. Thank you for you report". He pulls down the once-proud banners waiving over the castle, he hides back in the locked chests the scrolls with the revolutionary ideas written for the common folk to understand. The knight's faith in the noble goal was not strong enough, or the strength was not enough, or the knight has been enchanted by the image of the riches of the Evil Kingdoms. We may never know the truth. We won't know whether the soul of our hero is black like turned-off screen, or it is still pure, but the body fainting.

Whatever it is, the fight seems to be lost before it even seriously began.

We, inhabitants of the Good Kingdom: what shall we do now? Shall we migrate to the evil parts? Present our hands, let them put shackles on them, and ask: "You do promise to never use them against me, right? Where do I get that newest DLC?"

Shall we look for other still surviving knights, and put our hopes and gold coins for them? They are much smaller than our previous hero. Do they have time to grow up, before the Evil arrives and covers the whole land?

Or shall we just stay with them until the end of our days, knowing that they won't survive much longer than we, old people, who hoped to see the laws and banners of the Good Kingdom over the whole world? Maybe some day our grand-grand-children will find a dusty book (if it gets overlooked by DRM police) and read about the old, no longer understandable ideas of the old, crazy people?
Post edited May 01, 2022 by Arsen7
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Ka_zimir: I think it's time to close/delete this stupid thread ...
I agree. This is a very silly thread.

Anyone willing to boycott GOG over what are plainly narrow minded reasons isn't someone who truly understands what DRM Free ideals are.
Post edited May 07, 2022 by lexluthermiester
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In Soviet Russia GoG boycotts you!
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lexluthermiester: I agree. This is a very silly thread.

Anyone willing to boycott GOG over what are plainly narrow minded reasons isn't someone who truly understands what DRM Free ideals are.
Everyone has their own interpretation of what DRM is and what DRM-free means to them. To some, the presence of games that clearly have locked single-player content on a store that claims to be 'DRM-free' is unreasonable.
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Post edited May 10, 2022 by paladin181
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While your arguments, that GOG has DRM have zero merit. I've made a post about that, on the linked

All are still DRM Free. Case Closed - DRM on GOG: list of single-player games with DRM, page 16 - Forum - GOG.com

No need to repeat that here.

Though I disagree with your Boycott, I'll back your right to do that, even if it's never going to change GOG.
Having a "Good Old Games" Tag changes nothing, the original reason for that Tag was to get digital releases for Disc Only games, that couldn't be bought new any where.

"Good Old Games" died when PC went digital download only, and it's never coming back, digital download is here to stay.
The reasons for new games (since 2012), not coming to GOG, are varied, but all are based on the choice of publishers these days, and have nothing to do with the original concept of "Good Old Games".

GOG is marketing "Good Old Games" better, is all, and though great for new GOG customers, old timers like me, bought all the "Good Old Games" we wanted many years ago. I can't remember last time I bought a "Good Old Game" game in a sale even.
I may pick up the rare new "Good Old Game", like the recent "Wheel Of Time" release, but I'm long done with the back catalogue.
As I stated in that post I define DRM as
DRM has a single purpose, to prove you own the game, before letting you play the game, offline, or on.
No SPG does that, If any MPG does that, I'm not aware of it, but I don't play MPGs, and don't use Galaxy.

What you're asking GOG is impossible to achieve.
You're literally saying DRM free can't even exist if you get any Digital Downloads, from secure sites.
Your arguments don't actually stand up to logical scrutiny?

Get Game from secure website, with login account protection, download it, you still play game offline DRM free.
Get DLC from secure website, with login account protection, download it, you still play game offline DRM free.
Get Expansion from secure website, with login account protection, download it, you still play game offline DRM free.
Get Reward from secure website, with login account protection, download it, you still play game offline DRM free.

Multiplayer is more complex, and I go into more details as to why, in linked post
Basically you're objecting to online servers/services requiring login, which is a legal requirement, to protect your data privacy.
Just like this forum requires a login.

Back to boycotts
While I back your right to boycott, I see no good reason why you should.
Boycotts don't work without mass support, and you will never get that.
Are they're other reasons to boycott. Yes, but I can't see one here.

I boycott ALL games with Microtransactions, If your game has microtransactions I will GTFO.
I wish a mass boycott would happen, but regardless, I don't have to deal with a Microtransaction Infested Cash Shop.
So I benefit whatever rest of you do.

I removed Fallout 4, and Skyrim SE from my Steam account (Relinquishing ownership) the day the Creation Club launched.
Not because "Paid Mods 2.0", but because it was a Microtransaction Infested Cash Shop, shoehorned into Single Player Games, I got years earlier on Release.

In 2013 built a £5,000 High End Gaming system to mod Skyrim, and older TES/Fallout games, I was a total Bethesda RPG Fangirl.
In 2017 Bethesda Softworks, murdered that Bethesda RPG Fangirl, and even though I own all their games on GOG, my Bethesda RPG Fangirl has not risen from the dead, and though I have a modicum of hope that MS will change things I have no trust, so will wait at least 4 years to see if the Microtransaction Infested Cash Shop returns.

Having Started boycotting all "Microtransaction Infested" games since 2019 (MPGs a decade earlier), when Ubicrap started there NFT bullshit, I still owned the 17 games,11 Assassin's Creed, 4 Far Cry, 2 Watch_Dogs, 2 bought at release, most bought in sales, 2 free.

When they doubled down on their NFT Bullshit, and it became clear (To Me) they were still ignoring rampant abuse of workers, it was the last straw, and I deleted my entire "Ubicrap" account. Throwing those 17 games on the trash heap of history.

Again a Publisher murdered that Franchise Fangirl, only a complete takeover, and U-turn could make me consider buying new "Ubicrap" games again.

So while my No Microtransaction boycott, is not popular, I never even tried to start a boycott bandwagon.
It was my choice, and I benefit from not having Microtransaction Infested Cash Shops in any games I do buy.

I can't see what benefit boycotting GOG gives you as an individual, there is no other real option for DRM free games out there.
I know of one that still even exists, it seems to be US only, and is (in My opinion) either going bust, or will turn into a GOG clone.
I don't even accept, the premise that GOG has ANY DRM.

So see no benefit to boycotting GOG, but if I do see personal benefit from a boycott.
I do my private boycott, for my benefit, regardless of what the rest of you do.
So I support your right to make your case, which I find completely unproven.
Still boycott GOG forever if that's what you want.

All I really want from GOG is the offline installers, it's the only reason I buy 80% of my games on GOG.
DRM Free is a nice bonus, no achievements (Require Store Client) is even nicer.
If Steam offered SPG offline installers with at install (Product Key) style DRM.
I'd gladly take it, to remove the Bloated Store Client, I really hate.

DRM free is much better, no argument over that from me, but no Store Client is my 1st priority.
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