https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXPC2HXjrYU

Since I see my name is still in OP, I figured i'd provide an update on where i'm at (not that many people will care I suppose).

I have indeed held firm on buying games from GOG.com since the Cyberpunk release, easilly achieving my original year of abstaining. I can also see that there have been some positives things being done by CDP.. Removing Hitman from the store was the correct choice (though it was beyond ridiculous they thought the userbase would accept it to begin with). Blocking access to the site to users within Russia and it's allies in a time of humanitarian crisis, and helping to fund charity to those afflicted by recent events is also a very good thing.

At the same time, being dissapointed in the actions of CDP as initially stated has not changed. There's STILL a ton of work that needs to be done on 2077. They are STILL blocking Devotion from the store. There are plainly still issues with the Galaxy-less user experience.

But I also said i'd likely cave at some point and buy a game from here again in the future if I wanted to support something in particular. Today i'm buying Songs of Conquest, it's something i've been anticipating for a hell of a long time and this is the only way to get it wihout DRM. And my desire to reward a talented developer who deserves my money for making something that I believe will be genuinely special does outweigh my desire to not let GOG make a couple bucks off that sale.

I don't intend on buying again any time soon after this and otherwise returning to my personal boycott, but I understand why it makes my inclusion on the list flimsy. So if people think it should be removed I understand. And I also fully support anyone who is continuing to boycott without interruption. Even if it's just on principle at this point, it's important to do what you think is right.

Mhmm. Very little change for me; I haven't put a cent into GoG/CDPR since 2016 i believe. (Though trading keys i already have on hand and getting free games is a separate issue)

I haven't really seen any good improvements, if anything CP2077 shows how much a skeleton crew GoG is using and they should have upped their employee count to handle the load(s).

Then there's a lot of bad stuff come up in the industry, some having nothing to do with GoG unless they choose to dip their toes into it. Personally GoG getting political with blocking Russia is a bad move; The government's actions isn't the same as it's citizens and has absolutely zero impact on what is going on other than pissing off their customers and userbase; Thus GoG shows they are willing to betray their customers to virtue signal giving them another black mark.

I think this is a little disingenuous. In terms of the current conflict there is a clear instigator. Standing against it is the bare minimum others can do.

I do however understand where you're coming from with the sentiment that it's not the average citizens fault that this is happening. Unfortunantly sanctioning is not a scalpel like aproach, it's as broad and wide as possible by design, in order to be effective. I sympathise with those who just want to get on with their average lives and just play a game, just like all the rest of us.

And that's as political as i'm willing to get with people I don't know on a gaming forum lol

I agree that 2077 and GOG need more help behind them, for sure. As I did say already :)

Except sanctions are to deprive physical goods, usually food, raw materials, fuel and other things (not too far akin from choking someone). Keeping a country unable to buy and play games isn't the same as preventing them from being able to eat until they comply. The problem is this is electronic data and has nothing to do with sanctions.

Besides, why would Poland care if the US tries to sanction Russia. Unless all of Russia is blocked as a whole from the internet then trying to stop it is like trying to prevent someone from breathing by holding air in a balloon. It's immaterial. You'll only encourage them not to pay.

Actually thinking about it, sanctions is a violent method of making a country comply by trying to choke it into submission... quite gruesome if you think about it.

I'll agree. This isn't intended to be a political discussion, though GoG put it's foot in first.

And I would not disagree with that point.

However, GOG took care of the offending nonsense in a timely manner. For people to continue whining and complaining about it more than a year later is as pedantic and pathetic as it is pointless.

not really because of the the over present nature of the industry.
You are either pushing for consumer rights & protections or they are inherently eroding.
The very least a company that holds itself to a DRM free stance should do is put in no uncertain terms what they will and won't abide by and to be held to such metric.
To say it happened and we dealt with this instance, but never took steps to prevent it's re-occurrence; Is to say we refuse to learn from GOGs mistakes; that our niche that built our very foundational elements is wrong to expect the respect of our core principles in our provider/consumer business relationship, and that we don't deserve to be treated as first world digital citizens.
Sincerely f@ck you.

Perhaps you are referring to the Hitman incident (where the game was indeed removed and it was subsequently removed from the list in the first post here). However, I am referring to the games on this list, which are known to have locked SP content. These have been flagged to GOG and users have protested about them for probably a couple of years now and GOG have just sat on their hands and done nothing.

I replied to your post in that other thread and I am not going to repeat it here. Many users on here (myself included) would strongly disagree with you about how DRM is defined. There is nothing 'case closed' about it.

Under no circumstances should anyone have anything to do with any UbiSoft product. We reside in Bora Bora, 1/2 a globe away from the EU, yet Ubi tried to charge us VAT on a purchase, which GOG ethically does not. Plus Ubi stubbornly clings to DRM for all their products. So, as for Ubi, NFW!

While I don't mind reducing, a quote to make a point, I don't consider Meme videos worthy comment
TLDR just means you are not capable of making a useful contribution to any debate.
Go back to Twatter, and FaceFook if you just want to stick to simple three word slogans, you can shout at a "follow the sheeple" rally.

If you want to make any actual valid arguments that have any merit, regardless of your position, you must use lots of words.
Some may even have more than four Letters.
When I provided Mod Organizer modding support, the better original 32-bit MO (Made for just one game engine), not the downgrade (Jack of all game engines, Master of none) 64-bit MO2, we has our own acronym for people that wanted simple three word solutions.
Before you ask RTFM (Read The Fucking Manual).
No thread, no matter how long ago someone last posted in it, is dead, if another user posts a new comment.
This is a forum, made for discussion, and more discussion should never be discouraged.

And because this is still the case you can be sure nobody cares anymore how reliable the list are.

Long ago I said, that some names of the list lead to a 404. now.
Not a hidden profile but those accounts have either been renamed or they have been deleted.
One of name (ChinaGovIsFacist) has been an obvious troll account that might have even run into the very lax rules for usernames...

Others got 0 games (some have deactivate their profile now) or have been very new..
I got problems to understand how someone who joined the boycott the day he joined GoG can be taken serious.
Or someone who joins the boycott with a 0 games account.
A sock puppet (not looking at Time4Tea here - ok, looking at him for adding them to that list) to make numbers.


Still a very new account with that name was willingly taken to "the list". And it stays on that list.

And I didn't even looked up all names to find 404s.

After the people in here went at each others throat the last bit of "taking this thread serious" has vanished for everyone outside of this as it seems.
But with lists that include troll accounts and sock puppets as "supporters" there was not even a basement for taking this thread serious.

I own some of those games, that list is total nonsense. To boycott GOG over such drivel is foolish at best...

Don't boycott if you are not going to boycott; just go somewhere else to whine.

Wait guys, pack it up. THIS GUY made the right argument to foil the whole thing, and not a total rehash of worthless claims that have been counterpointed to death already. THIS is the one. Whew. Glad he saved us from boycotting based on fallacious reasons.

Here's my report for the boycott.
I don't post much due to the broken rep, I've put an arbitrary value on it and mind abit about getting 'bad' rep.

With full understanding of the conditions for the boycott (to whatever degree they're comfortable),
I've spent a bit.
I was and still am an ardent boycotter since the beginning (was part of the group since start of last year).

AUD $0.59 for Deluxe Oblivion - ozbargain [It's my childhood game along with Skyrim]
It's what I've spent for over a year of boycott. I'm here mainly because of the Devotion fiasco of
Decemeber 2020.
I've observed GOG's non-committal attitude on this. Angryjoe made a video on youtube about this (308k views)
watch?v=7wgLOQWCB6U

I've looked for behaviour traits on why this has dragged on, it's GOG's escalation of commitment.
The ability for human nature to double down on bad decisions due to commitment bias. Could be the cause of
pride, ignorance, low priority for us (or right bc of chicom market).

Right now, GOG customers are being subjected to censorship (an attack on free speech) by withholding Devotion to the 'free market'. If the game's an issue for one country, why subject the rest of the world on their standards? PRC laws/standards should not apply here in the global market, I and many others don't live there.

Many who wanted to boycott simply did just that, they left. Others held out for a bit, hoped that GOG would turn around (me and others on the list). A lot of those that said they're boycotting and have been added to the list have been inactive/deleted their accounts (since, well it's a boycott). Simply put, those on the list are a mere fraction of the total boycotting GOG right now.

As always, this discussion will continue to see its fair share of trolling/derailing. Krogan and lackeys used to provide entertainment. But it's free publicity though and the boycott is occupying free real estate on their minds.


PS: Only Time can take me off the list for spending a bit, this is still my personal boycott at the end of the day.

Reason for no link: "You cannot post any links at this moment."
l looked around and found this from GOG team JudasIscariot:
"This is related to the low amount of rep as it prevents spambots (not calling you one, btw :) ) from posting their garbage on the forum with only 1 rep. Once you get to around 20 rep you'll be able to post links."
Either this holds true for me (I've used multiple browsers and computers) or else I'm noob at posting links.