I mainly came to this site because of the first two 'Fallout' games, as I'd enjoyed the third so much. Yet apparently if I express a positive opinion about 'Fallout 3', I'm an idiot, a troll, or a graphics whore who doesn't care about gameplay. 'Fallout 3' was certainly not perfect, but the childishness of some of the negative opinions here is kind of depressing.

so why do you care what people think as long as you have your own opinion?

i believe someone can now mark this as solved

Fallout 3's awesome.
I love all 3. What, people still waste energy on attacking anyone who plays the third one?

While I don't care f or FO3 as much as FO 1&2, I don't "hate" on folks who really like FO3.
People are entitled to their own opinions, don't worry about folks who talk down to you for liking FO3; just ignore 'em. If you let it get to you then they win.

You make it sound like a competition... anyway, what exactly do they win?
No one here attacked fallout 3 worshipers unless they were asking for it by posting crap and trolling on a forum named GOOD OLD GAMES. People need to understand that before they whine about how offensive this mean community is.
Anyway i think both worshipers of the original games(such as myself) and fallout 3 can agree that you cant expect everyone on the "internets" to fully agree with you on personal opinions.

It was an apparently too obscure attempt at a humorous reference to the War on Terror and President Bush.

Try to express your opinion on duck and cover, or NMA forum. I'm sure you'll radically change your mind about our little community.
Seriously if you're looking for Fallout 3 enthusiasts you should try Bethesda forum. Nobody will call you a graphics whore there.

I haven't seen any "posting crap and trolling", unless you consider expressing any liking of 'Fallout 3' is "trolling". And why doesn't liking old games mean someone can't like new ones as well?

Posting crap
Trolling
those were the only posts i've seen that people got annoyed. Really, you've joined literally a few days ago you dont know the community here.
As for liking new games: Theres a reason why its called good old games. Besides why do you care? You want approval or something from people to like games?

What FO1 and FO2 fans maybe don't understand when they totally dis on Fallout 3, is that at least Fallout 3 was still an RPG - and we get so few RPG's nowadays. Instead we get games like Borderlands, Bioshock and STALKER being called RPG's. At least Fallout 3 had the SPECIAL system and a skills system, when it could have so easily been a Mass Effect style where you just had three different characters to choose from and all the stats are put into the weapons and armour rather than the character.
I enjoyed Fallout 3 moderately. It won't be seen as a classic in 10 years like the first 2. As per normal, in some ways it was dumbed down for the console market (that's what worries me about Fallout New Vegas -it's coming out on console too!), I also was really annoyed that Bethesda used the same Oblivion voice artists - using their same voices! And, like with Oblivion, there was only about half a dozen of them! It also had the cookie-cutter areas like Oblivion before it.
I can understand why there is talk of the next Elder Scrolls game being an MMO, because MMO's are allowed to be fairly shallow fregfests when compared to single player RPG's.
Well have to see how Fallout New Vegas turns out, but I put more faith in European publishers rather than American one's when it comes to proper RPG's on PC only. Company's like CD Projekt and Their Witcher series for example!

Oh, what the hell, I'll post my 2-cents. Here's what I wrote on GameFaqs just a couple hours ago...
I've played & finished Fallout 1 three times in the past year & I loved it. I'm not an uber-gamer, those days are 15-25 years behind me, so I very rarely play modern games.
After poking around on here (and the internet in general), I asked a friend to borrow his Fallout 3 to give it a test drive. I like turn-based & grid-based games when it comes to my rpg's (original Fallout, Might & Magic 1 through 5), so I knew Fallout 3 would be a big change. The only FPP game I can recall playing straight through was Wolfenstein 3-D from way back in my day (on the little 3.5" diskettes). I already knew ahead of time that Bethesda had changed some things from Interplay's style, so I was prepared for a big difference.
I played it for a few hours last night & here are my impressions. Overall abilities & skills and such seem to function just like the original series, no complaints there. And I really liked the interactive intro from our birth to our adulthood, it was a big help in getting used to the new gameplay.
I like to play as a stealthy assassin/thief type character, so the one thing I didn't like was that I now have to pick locks myself with bobby pins & a screwdriver...but at least I have the option to "force" it based on my Lockpick score instead. I really liked the "computer hacking" feature, I actually found that to be alot of fun.
Combat still has me a little confused, regarding VATS. How long does it take to regain my APs? Because I'm taking my shots on enemies, then going back into VATS & being told my APs are too low to take any new shots. And if I need x-amount of real time to regain my APs, what am I supposed to do during that time? Just dodge & weave and hope I don't get hit? As of right now, I still prefer the old style of combat, but I'm open-minded about it...my opinion could change if I get better with VATS.
The 3-D environment, although its been around in gaming for years & years, is still new to me, so using the WASD to move & remembering what other keys do what is harder for me than pointing-and-clicking to move (I know I could remap the keys, but I'm still not used to using so many keys in real time). The environment is all beautifully done, I'm just having trouble adapting so I tend to move kind of jerkily through the world. But now that I've been immersed in a 3-D world, I have to admit Fallout 1 does look rather primitive & I can't imagine how they could've preserved the isometric graphics & still made it look modern.
Its still too new to me to decide "this is great, I'm gonna finish the game" or "this is too different, I'm quitting now". But now that I've practiced a bit, I think I'll restart the game. I only got as far as exploring the nearest town, stealing a few things, and killing a few innocents who happened to catch me pickpocketing them, so hopefully I can make some better progress now.

See? Now that is an awesome approach.

Thank you Fenixp. :-)
(takes a bow)

Err... You know you don't need VATS to shoot ? Just shooting in realtime like in all other FPS.
(If i'm mistaken about you using only VATS, then sorry)