I was curious when of even if the Standard Edition will be sold here? I have certain issues with this company and the other whom i wont name trying to charge Kickstarter prices on Retail outlets, but out of respect, I wont go into that.

That being said, I had thought i heard when Wasteland was going to be fully released the price would go down, but I have yet to see any evidence of this, which is really not helping my opinion of this company.

Classic edition pricing.

What's a Kickstarter price? Don't retail prices usually go up from the lowest Kickstarter pledge that gives you the game? I haven't followed many KS games.

A Kickstarter price is generally a cheaper price for the gamer and maybe some extra because at the time you pay that your essentially paying for an idea with the hope of getting a real product later.

As to this gaming pricing model here it seems super shady or set up by someone lacking any common sense.

I don't really mean that to be offensive just how they are selling this game here at the very least is extremely messed up.

This is copy and pasted from the current store page(which I have open as I type this in another tab):

"In addition to the above goodies, the Digital Deluxe Edition includes:
GOG gift code for Wasteland 1
GOG gift code for The Bard's Tale"

Now the "goodies" are free and not part of the DDE so the DDE outside of the game itself is Wasteland 1 and The Bard's Tale but it says before each "GOG gift code for" now gift means "something given voluntarily without payment in return, as to show favor toward someone, honor an occasion, or make a gesture of assistance; present." and is generally thought of in those terms so essentially they are simply charging more because they can if there "Classic Edition" coming later.

If that wasn't enough GOG on the same page is offering a package deal of Wasteland 2 Digital Deluxe Edition + Wasteland 1 for 6 dollars more essentially charging you 6 bucks more for technically a second copy of Wastland when in reality most people will just be spending 6 dollars more for nothing.

Last but not least going to Wasteland 1 page shows that the game COSTS 6 dollars itself so that bundle isn't even saving you any money as lots of bundle deals do, it's literally just Wasteland 2 DDE and Wasteland 1 thrown together both at the same price.

Yes, eventually.

The standard edition (retail) also comes with the option to get a digital version either by Steam or GOG (your choice) :

http://www.amazon.com/Wasteland-2-Windows-select-Pc/dp/B00NA6LH58

With all due respect, you either don't visit/ purchase frequently on GOG or deliberately twist the meaning of some terms used.

"Included FREE goodies" is a standard term used by GOG on every single game page to denote the extra content that comes with a specific edition of a game which in turn comes at a specific price point. This does not make them automatically "free' as in "free beer" regardless of the edition of a given game, and Wasteland 2 is no exception.

Second, you interpret "gift" out of context, using its general definition. The term you should be looking at is "gift code" which stands for the GOG code of a given game that you can either redeem yourself or gift to someone else if you already have the game of feel so inclined to do so. Now, in the specific case of Wasteland 2, the gift codes are additional extras that only come with the DDE of it, and work as an extra incentive for people who value the other extras enough to get this edition.

Regarding the "BUY SERIES" on the page of Wasteland 2 DDE - I'll give you that it's misleading and confusing and shouldn't be there. Only reason I can think of, is that the game pages use the same template and the system automatically relates games within a series and displays that bit on the game page. It will however make sense when the Standard Edition goes live, as Wasteland 1 won't be included.

Last but not least, yes there are specific series that grant you a discount if you complete them, but keep in mind that those are special deals that GOG has in place with the devs/ pubs, and that as many series don't give you a discount for completing them.
If you think the "BUY SERIES" in the context of Wasteland 1 and Wasteland 2 Standard Edition, then it's another series that just doesn't grant you a discount for completing it.

Please note that all the above are meant only as clarification.

Well, to be fair that term should be changed. Some of the addons that you have to buy are quite literally just "free" goodies. Take note that I'm not opposed to paying for this extra content. Soundtracks, novels etc could very well worth their price tag. I'm just saying the GOG term is not particularly honest on occasion.

Believe it or not, I just came back to this thread to add that the term "Included FREE goodies" was more fitting when GOG sold only a single edition of each game, and that the addition of different editions where the most extras are only included in the more expensive ones, we're practically paying for them which makes them even less "free' as in "free beer". :-)

What you show is the PHYSICAL BOXED copy which does come with Wasteland 1

I'm talking about the digital version which sounds like it will be sold on upon the release date the 19th

http://www.gog.com/news/preorder_wasteland_2_digital_deluxe_edition

In that link they also say you get a "free copy" of Wasteland and The Bard's Tale which is the same language used again on the store page

In addition to that when the Digtal Classic Edition releases(19th or whenever) you will still have the option have paying a fee to upgrade to the Deluxe version, the problem is outside of the game itself all they've offered is content they've labeled as free.

Thanks for the replies. like the other poster I too have found the pricing to be extremely shady or dishonest myself. Like they are using a convenient excuse to charge alot of money for this. Still, I was expecting myself the basic version to be 20-30$ dollars.

Unfortunately given how shady they've appeared all this time, Im not going to support them by giving them full price, and will likely just wait for a sale. Its like they don't understand Kickstarter is just a a investment website, not a retail outlet. They nor do any ethical developer need to 'protect' kickstarter backers' investment in the Retail setting. They are two extremely different things, and it sets a bad precedent to let people get the impression Kickstarter is to pre order games before they come out.

I'm a bit angry right now.

Haven't read the hole thread but will.

Angry because IF gog wants or only get the "deluxe" edition to sell, I don't want it.

This is kind of stubberness, I'm aware. principles. ( inXile and how they argumented the deluxe sh**t for EA/STEAM and mixed up Kickstarter, Early Access on Steam and now trying to take back the "it will be a 20-30 €/$ game". )

But I do not support this. I don't want the non important "exclusive" digital stuff.

This was something Steams EA also did.

I really was looking forward to buy it on gog. The 29,90 € edition. Now I'll rather buy the standard editon dvd or if this is not available on amazon. I'll just wait. It's not like it won't be available in half a year or a year. But probably will cost less money and will be more stable (if this is an issue after all that EA-Beta-Testing...)

And yes, gog is a bit shady too in this case.

(btw the VAT stuff argument etc. for 1:1 $ to € sucks as well. Coins, gift-codes etc. as compensation is just cheap...)

To be fair, I think this is InXile doing this, and not Gog.com. Steam too, only has the Digital Deluxe Edition up, and I think its mentioned on the forums there that they are only selling the DDE version pre release. More then likely to squeeze more money from people. Theres been a whole lot of shady behavior from these people.

I recall originally they said the reason the Deluxe version was so expensive was because it includes beta access, but as far as I can tell, that is not the case on Gog.com.

Just more of the same reason, despite liking how the game is looking, I wont support this company by paying their extortion level prices, given how things they said earlier in the development cycle does not match up with their shady practices.

Again, not true. As I already pointed out to you here : http://www.gog.com/forum/general/preorder_wasteland_2_digital_deluxe_edition/post235

This ALSO comes with the digital versions. You really need to READ *before* posting uninformed blather based on your own paranoid speculation. I don't even know what you're complaining about at this point.

The reply I originally gave implies VERY obviously that they do intend to release a standard edition. Hence the whole "Yes, eventually". The content that comes with the Deluxe version is mainly in the form of novels and novellas which is most certainly NOT free. Whether or not you care is another matter entirely, but you're not obligated nor entitled to be able to preorder the Standard edition now.

You've got two choices : either wait until they announce the standard edition here, or wait for the physical one which will also contain the same + the physical copy. Sit on your hands and don't fidget.

You keep pointing towards the Kickstarter page which I have read each time I've read your post. If would please quote or directly point to the section you think explains your point please do everything I've looked at on the page doesn't seem to mention anything I'm talking about though I freely admit I could simply be overlooking something.

Just to be clear my understanding is that you are pointing me to the physical retail addition coming with a digital copy of the game, whether this means Wasteland 2, Wasteland 1 or both doesn't seem to be mentioned on the page.

While what I'm talking about is the Classic edition to be sold directly from Steam or GOG and what they will come with compared to the Deluxe edition which at least on GOG will still be sold along side the Classic edition.

I direct towards the kickstarter page for a specific reason; it states that the Retail versions will have standard redeemable keys on both GOG and Steam. What this implies is that eventually there will be means to collect those keys, which are obviously NOT the Deluxe version. There's no way they could get away with a +$20 price differential on the Deluxe version, and have the Retail version contain the same amount for $20 less. Follow?

So, what this ultimately implies is at some point in the future, probably not too long from now in the coming weeks ahead, (my guess is after GOG has gotten enough purchases on the currently available for preorder Deluxe version), they will make the Standard version available for purchase also.

It really comes down to this question : How are the Standard versions that are redeemable with the Retail version going to be able to be redeemed WITHOUT them putting up a Standard version? Maybe GOG will be bastards and only allow those who purchased the Retail to redeem a Standard version, but I seriously doubt they'd do that and that probably wouldn't fly with the community.

Clearer?

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