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The Witcher 2Quicksave YES but agon NO Quickload .... WHY!?(36 posts)(36 posts)
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Posted May 19, 2011
One one the most perplexing, silly, insane and irritating features of the Witcher was the lack of a quicksave/quickload function. More specically, a dedicated quicksave slot that overwrites ever time... there was a "quicksave" option but it actually created a new "standard" save whenever used and there was no quickload option so for all intents and purposes it was completely useless.

I will NEVER understand how CD Projekt overlooked such a simple and absolutely ESSENTIAL feature. I still get angry every time I think about it.
I ended up with a 9GB savegame folder ( about 600 saves). Loading savegames became incredibly irritating since it took the game forever to load them all. I finally moved all but the most recent ones out of the folder.

Now in the Witcher 2 we get SOME progress with the introduction of a quicksave button ... but again NO quickoad.
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? What is it with your strange resistance to this basic element of gaming? This pisses me off SO bad.

Quicksave/Quickload is to me the most basic, essential, indispensable feature of a PC game.
Unless you choose the waypoints model, as some shooters do - but when you do have savegames you MUST provide quicksave/quickload implementation. Anything less than that is a huge a hassle, extremely thoughtless, a very bad and lazy design decision and simply utterly inconsiderate towards the player.

Sorry, the game is great, but really, WTF?. It's not like this would be hard to implement...

Pressing ESC and waiting fo the menu screen that takes forever to load, selecting LOAD with my laggy mouse cursor and the selecting the savegame... all that could be avoided with the press of ONE, I repeat, ONE button.

Seriously, why?
Posted May 19, 2011
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Thor333: One one the most perplexing, silly, insane and irritating features of the Witcher was the lack of a quicksave/quickload function. More specically, a dedicated quicksave slot that overwrites ever time... there was a "quicksave" option but it actually created a new "standard" save whenever used and there was no quickload option so for all intents and purposes it was completely useless.

I will NEVER understand how CD Projekt overlooked such a simple and absolutely ESSENTIAL feature. I still get angry every time I think about it.
I ended up with a 9GB savegame folder ( about 600 saves). Loading savegames became incredibly irritating since it took the game forever to load them all. I finally moved all but the most recent ones out of the folder.

Now in the Witcher 2 we get SOME progress with the introduction of a quicksave button ... but again NO quickoad.
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? What is it with your strange resistance to this basic element of gaming? This pisses me off SO bad.

Quicksave/Quickload is to me the most basic, essential, indispensable feature of a PC game.
Unless you choose the waypoints model, as some shooters do - but when you do have savegames you MUST provide quicksave/quickload implementation. Anything less than that is a huge a hassle, extremely thoughtless, a very bad and lazy design decision and simply utterly inconsiderate towards the player.

Sorry, the game is great, but really, WTF?. It's not like this would be hard to implement...

Pressing ESC and waiting fo the menu screen that takes forever to load, selecting LOAD with my laggy mouse cursor and the selecting the savegame... all that could be avoided with the press of ONE, I repeat, ONE button.

Seriously, why?
There's also an issue of having hundreds of autosaves in TW2, it doesn't seem like there's a way of deleting them aside from manually going into the folder (or I'm blind).
Posted May 19, 2011
One reason might be that there are some serious memory leaks and bugs in the saving and loading ... doing it too much is certain to elicit a crash to desktop for me :)
Posted May 19, 2011
Seems like an incredibly minor thing to be THAT pissy about.
Posted May 19, 2011
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StingingVelvet: Seems like an incredibly minor thing to be THAT pissy about.
Well, in a way I it annoys me even more because it is such a "minor" thing, or rather it would be a minor thing to fix it. It's not a hugely complicated issue of game design.

However, it is only "minor" in the sense of simple, basic... and to me, as I said, essential and indispensable.
Posted May 19, 2011
Plenty of game design features seem simple but are far from it. This one is frustrating though, yes, given no other games (far as I've seen) do it this way.
Posted May 19, 2011
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StingingVelvet: Seems like an incredibly minor thing to be THAT pissy about.
Thing is, the quickload is a confirmed feature. Only nobody seems to find it.
Posted May 19, 2011
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StingingVelvet: Seems like an incredibly minor thing to be THAT pissy about.
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AudreyWinter: Thing is, the quickload is a confirmed feature. Only nobody seems to find it.
They confirmed it? Where? THAT I would like to see.
To reiterate what was said above in reply to my original post:

the issue with the huge amount of autosaves that don't get deleted automatically makes the sitation just as bad as with TW1. Once again I get an endlessly swelling confusing folder of savegames and the LOAD-menu takes forever to ... well, load.

Just great.
Post edited May 19, 2011 by Thor333
Posted May 19, 2011
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AudreyWinter: Thing is, the quickload is a confirmed feature. Only nobody seems to find it.
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Thor333: They confirmed it? Where? THAT I would like to see.
To reiterate what was said above in reply to my original post:

the issue with the huge amount of autosaves that don't get deleted automatically makes the sitation just as bad as with TW1. Once again I get an endlessly swelling confusing folder of savegames and the LOAD-menu takes forever to ... well, load.

Just great.
Read the game's manual. It specifically mentions a quickload button.

Quickload isn't there, but the manual says it is.
Post edited May 19, 2011 by Fayth
Posted May 19, 2011
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Thor333: the issue with the huge amount of autosaves that don't get deleted automatically makes the sitation just as bad as with TW1. Once again I get an endlessly swelling confusing folder of savegames and the LOAD-menu takes forever to ... well, load.

Just great.
I'm not denying it could be done better, or even that it is an issue. I am saying it's a pretty small thing to get so upset over. Maybe you're not actually as upset as the original post reads though, who knows.

In any case just go in the save folder and delete most of them every few days.
Posted May 20, 2011
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Fayth: Read the game's manual. It specifically mentions a quickload button.
Quickload isn't there, but the manual says it is.
Yep. Just like it says "insert" would quick switch control mode kbm/controller, but that's also not true.
Posted May 20, 2011
Hello,

Although it might not be entirely relevant, I've cooked up a small utility to remove/cleanup/backup savegame. It might be useful to some of you struggling with hundreds of saves (it won't fix anything related to quickload however).

Everything is available here :
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/the_witcher_2/savegame_cleanup_utility
Posted May 28, 2011
Agreed no quick load is lame.

But 9gb of saved games? Clear that shit out. I like to go in after a chapter and sort by date and clear everything between chapter starts. Like you said takes way too long for that load game screen to open.

I would rather have to trim my saved games folder every now and then than have just one quick load spot. But they really should add something in game or at least on the launcher to help you sort and delete saves.
Posted May 28, 2011
I can't get over that not only is there no quick load, but to change game options I have to leave the game.

I would never have expected these things from this developer or this game.
Posted June 09, 2011
I agree a quickload function would have been nice and the autosave clutter is also a little unnecessary, but they're both able to be fixed in minutes.

Regarding the save cleanup, browse to your documents, Witcher 2 folder, sort by date select the date you wish to delete from hold shift, hit end, hit delete, confirm, done. You can even do this while the game is running. Same thing worked in Witcher 1. It's a lot easier than manually deleting each one in the game menu.

Quickload - if you have a keyboard that can do macros, or want to download a macro program like autohotkey, a quickload button is no problem.

On my logitech g510 for instance I just hit the quick macro button, hit the proposed hotkey, hit escape, down, down, enter enter, and stopped recording.

Press the button ingame and it hits escape to the menu, selects load game and loads the most recent. Simple.
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