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First, if you're not familiar with Michael Moorcocks books, stop reading this and go to a library, bookstore, the internets and pick them up NOW. They're classics of modern fantasy and you won't be disappointed.

Anyway, I was thinking the other day: could Geralt be considered an incarnation of The Eternal Champion? He is similar to some of Michael Moorcock's characters: Dorian Hawkmoon, Corum and of course Elric of Melnibone. Remember, the Champion is neither good nor evil but is drawn into conflict when Law or Chaos has too much power. His role is more about setting the balance right, a neutral force if you will. Also there are the various Companions and Consorts to the Eternal Champion that show up in the stories-I'm thinking Dandelion(perhaps Zoltan) and Yennefer here.

"Multiverse" concepts do show up in The Witcher: the Conjunction of Spheres, The Wild Hunt, you can earn Lancelot's sword in TW1. There're probably more that have escaped me.

So yeah, I think Geralt qualifies. Wouldn't it be awesome if Michael Moorcock and Andrej Sapkowski collaborated on a novel?
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seekerpat: Wouldn't it be awesome if Michael Moorcock and Andrej Sapkowski collaborated on a novel?
Unlikely:
http://www.multiverse.org/fora/showthread.php?t=10894#4
Post edited July 21, 2011 by Kryopsis
Is the suggestion of that thread is that the character Geralt is a ripoff from a creation of this Mike Moorcock writer?

And since the trolls can't figure out that I am asking about the only thread linked in this post so far, the thread I am talking about is the only linked thread in this post so far, not the OP.
Post edited July 21, 2011 by Verican
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Verican: Is the suggestion of that thread is that the character Geralt is a ripoff from a creation of this Mike Moorcock writer? (i wonder if his last name is going to be auto-censored lol)
First.
No where did the OP suggest anything of the sort, and you know it.

Second.
If Moorcock wasn't censored in the OP why would you wonder if it would be censored in your post or the OP?

Nothing you said made one damn bit of sense.
Well, there has been accussations exactly about that (including by Moorcock himself), so I kinda understand where Verican is coming from. I never read a book by Moorcock and I loved the Witcher saga, still, from what I've read on this topic (Geralt being a ripoff of Elric the *cough cough* White wolf) the complaints seemed well founded.
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Verican: Is the suggestion of that thread is that the character Geralt is a ripoff from a creation of this Mike Moorcock writer? (i wonder if his last name is going to be auto-censored lol)
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WoodCrafter: First.
No where did the OP suggest anything of the sort, and you know it.

Second.
If Moorcock wasn't censored in the OP why would you wonder if it would be censored in your post or the OP?

Nothing you said made one damn bit of sense.
First.
Learn to read you nerd raging troll. The OP asked if there was a possibility of a collaboration of Andrej Sapkowski and Michael Moorcook.

This was followed by a response saying not likely and a link to this thread which starts at this post by presumably Michael Moorcock:

"Bastards. You try to create something original and a bunch of people rip it off and make millions. I'm glad Tolkien never lived to see what HE spawned. I've contacted my lawyer, but haven't heard back yet. It's a 'passing off' situation rather than a copyright one. Trademarks, too, are involved. Copyright infringement is usually to do with text (or clearly copied drawings in the case of comics). "

and THAT is the thread I was referring to, never did I mention the OP in my musing or even quote anything from his initial post.

Second.
Lashing out like an arrogant little infant before understanding what is even going is really, really, really sad - yet entertaining. Thanks for making a fool of yourself.
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seekerpat: Wouldn't it be awesome if Michael Moorcock and Andrej Sapkowski collaborated on a novel?
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Kryopsis: Unlikely:
http://www.multiverse.org/fora/showthread.php?t=10894#4
That's ridiculous.
I read all the Stormbringer saga and beside the physical appearance (well ,actually just the hair) and the nickname those two characters, Geralt and Elric, have very little to share.
They have extremely different personalities, very different personal backgrounds, they share almost nothing in their morals and both deal with situations in very distinct ways.

Even the settings where their stories go on are extremely different, both in the generic mood and in the details.
Post edited July 21, 2011 by Tuco
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WoodCrafter: First.
No where did the OP suggest anything of the sort, and you know it.

Second.
If Moorcock wasn't censored in the OP why would you wonder if it would be censored in your post or the OP?

Nothing you said made one damn bit of sense.
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Verican: First.
Learn to read you nerd raging troll. The OP asked if there was a possibility of a collaboration of Andrej Sapkowski and Michael Moorcook.

This was followed by a response saying not likely and a link to this thread which starts at this post by presumably Michael Moorcock:

"Bastards. You try to create something original and a bunch of people rip it off and make millions. I'm glad Tolkien never lived to see what HE spawned. I've contacted my lawyer, but haven't heard back yet. It's a 'passing off' situation rather than a copyright one. Trademarks, too, are involved. Copyright infringement is usually to do with text (or clearly copied drawings in the case of comics). "

and THAT is the thread I was referring to, never did I mention the OP in my musing or even quote anything from his initial post.

Second.
Lashing out like an arrogant little infant before understanding what is even going is really, really, really sad - yet entertaining. Thanks for making a fool of yourself.
take your own advice. the thread starter made no allusions to the legal troubles. some guy posted it afterwards.

and again you lacked reading ability when you asked if moorcock would be censored when it clearly isn't in the op.

no offense, but you're digging yourself deeper. the grown up thing to do would be to admit your mistakes and move on...and not act like an infant raging troll. just saying...
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Verican: First.
Learn to read you nerd raging troll. The OP asked if there was a possibility of a collaboration of Andrej Sapkowski and Michael Moorcook.

This was followed by a response saying not likely and a link to this thread which starts at this post by presumably Michael Moorcock:

"Bastards. You try to create something original and a bunch of people rip it off and make millions. I'm glad Tolkien never lived to see what HE spawned. I've contacted my lawyer, but haven't heard back yet. It's a 'passing off' situation rather than a copyright one. Trademarks, too, are involved. Copyright infringement is usually to do with text (or clearly copied drawings in the case of comics). "

and THAT is the thread I was referring to, never did I mention the OP in my musing or even quote anything from his initial post.

Second.
Lashing out like an arrogant little infant before understanding what is even going is really, really, really sad - yet entertaining. Thanks for making a fool of yourself.
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soldiergeralt: take your own advice. the thread starter made no allusions to the legal troubles. some guy posted it afterwards.

and again you lacked reading ability when you asked if moorcock would be censored when it clearly isn't in the op.

no offense, but you're digging yourself deeper. the grown up thing to do would be to admit your mistakes and move on...and not act like an infant raging troll. just saying...
My question was directed at the thread that was posted, so sorry if that went over your head and the other rager lol.

I skimmed the first post of this thread and didn't fully read the name, only when I saw it in font 46 bold in the linked thread did I notice it. But since that oversight is getting you in a twist I will gladly fix it.
Geez, take a pill, guys.

Verican DID put a "lol" after his joke. I got it...

And on a serious note - where I can see the resemblance between this story and Moorcock's (and I chuckle just writing his name) I can't see it being close enough for any copyright infringement lawsuit.
Post edited July 21, 2011 by Peetz
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Peetz: Geez, take a pill, guys.

Verican DID put a "lol" after his joke. I got it...

And on a serious note - where I can see the resemblance between this story and Moorcock's (and I chuckle just writing his name) I can't see it being close enough for any copyright infringement lawsuit.
Thank you Peetz, and I couldn't help but think to myself when I read his name, damn, he probably had a rough could of years in middle and high school lol
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Peetz: Geez, take a pill, guys.

Verican DID put a "lol" after his joke. I got it...

And on a serious note - where I can see the resemblance between this story and Moorcock's (and I chuckle just writing his name) I can't see it being close enough for any copyright infringement lawsuit.
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Verican: Thank you Peetz, and I couldn't help but think to myself when I read his name, damn, he probably had a rough could of years in middle and high school lol
Rough? Oh, I dunno. Think I wouldn't mind going through life with a name that self - advertises...
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Verican: Thank you Peetz, and I couldn't help but think to myself when I read his name, damn, he probably had a rough could of years in middle and high school lol
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Peetz: Rough? Oh, I dunno. Think I wouldn't mind going through life with a name that self - advertises...
You must have had a nicer high school than mine, all I can see is the poor kidding walking down the halls with everyone asking him if he wants some Moorcock.
As long as you could just smile, knowingly...




OK, this has gone far enough, lol
I think Michael Moorcock might need to take a look at the publication date for the first Witcher book... Communism collapsed in Poland in 1989, I don't suspect there were a huge number of book translations moving back and forth across the iron curtain. Even after the fact, I'd have to wonder at the speed in which Polish book publishers would busy themselves translating then 20ish year old pulp fantasy novels. Even if they did, I'd question how quickly Andrzej was able to get one of those translations, read it, rip it off and write a novel based on it in time for 1991.
Post edited July 21, 2011 by imperialus