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Bought RB3D from GOG, installed, and started it up. Intro movie works great but then game crashes.
I tried the -window trick in the short cut target field but get an error "the name specified in the target box is not valid. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Wili
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wili_rovfar: Bought RB3D from GOG, installed, and started it up. Intro movie works great but then game crashes.
I tried the -window trick in the short cut target field but get an error "the name specified in the target box is not valid. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Wili
Are you using -window or -w ?? And you are leaving a space infront of the so it is "C:\Program Files (x86)\Sierra\RedBaron3D\Barron.exe" -w ("C:\Program Files (x86)\Sierra\RedBaron3D\Barron.exe"<SPACE>-w )

not "C:\Program Files (x86)\Sierra\RedBaron3D\Barron.exe"-w

You can try the batch file technique. Open up notepad and paste this into it:

taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
start /w Barron.exe
pause
start explorer.exe

then save in the RB3dFolder as Barron.bat (not txt) This will shut down explorer.exe which i think the conflict lies. When you exit the game, you just need to press any key to get windows back.
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wili_rovfar: Bought RB3D from GOG, installed, and started it up. Intro movie works great but then game crashes.
I tried the -window trick in the short cut target field but get an error "the name specified in the target box is not valid. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Wili
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Wailwulf: Are you using -window or -w ?? And you are leaving a space infront of the so it is "C:\Program Files (x86)\Sierra\RedBaron3D\Barron.exe" -w ("C:\Program Files (x86)\Sierra\RedBaron3D\Barron.exe"<SPACE>-w )

not "C:\Program Files (x86)\Sierra\RedBaron3D\Barron.exe"-w

You can try the batch file technique. Open up notepad and paste this into it:

taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
start /w Barron.exe
pause
start explorer.exe

then save in the RB3dFolder as Barron.bat (not txt) This will shut down explorer.exe which i think the conflict lies. When you exit the game, you just need to press any key to get windows back.
Thanks for helping so quickly. Tried the first , -w, no luck, just copied and pasted your reply and same result. Tried the notepad trick, opened notepad, pasted your commands and saved as Barron.bat and tried to put it in the rb3d folder but computer wont let me, says I need admin privileges but I'm logged in as admin.. :( I will try any other advice you can think of. Miss playing this game. Thanks Wili
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Wailwulf: Are you using -window or -w ?? And you are leaving a space infront of the so it is "C:\Program Files (x86)\Sierra\RedBaron3D\Barron.exe" -w ("C:\Program Files (x86)\Sierra\RedBaron3D\Barron.exe"<SPACE>-w )

not "C:\Program Files (x86)\Sierra\RedBaron3D\Barron.exe"-w

You can try the batch file technique. Open up notepad and paste this into it:

taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
start /w Barron.exe
pause
start explorer.exe

then save in the RB3dFolder as Barron.bat (not txt) This will shut down explorer.exe which i think the conflict lies. When you exit the game, you just need to press any key to get windows back.
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wili_rovfar: Thanks for helping so quickly. Tried the first , -w, no luck, just copied and pasted your reply and same result. Tried the notepad trick, opened notepad, pasted your commands and saved as Barron.bat and tried to put it in the rb3d folder but computer wont let me, says I need admin privileges but I'm logged in as admin.. :( I will try any other advice you can think of. Miss playing this game. Thanks Wili
Can you save it as a text and then rename it, change the txt to bat ?
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wili_rovfar: says I need admin privileges but I'm logged in as admin.. :( I will try any other advice you can think of. Miss playing this game.
This problem is caused by Windows 7 being a B**ch... I think I'm safe in saying you have installed to C:\Program Files(x86).... ? Don't install ANY games there, change the instalation directory to C:\Games, or something.

This is the single worst aspect of Win7 (which I otherwise really like) - I own my computer, I'm the only user, I gave myself full Admin rights, I turned off all the security checks I can find, and STILL there are files it won't let me edit!
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wili_rovfar: says I need admin privileges but I'm logged in as admin.. :( I will try any other advice you can think of. Miss playing this game.
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Wulfc: This problem is caused by Windows 7 being a B**ch... I think I'm safe in saying you have installed to C:\Program Files(x86).... ? Don't install ANY games there, change the instalation directory to C:\Games, or something.

This is the single worst aspect of Win7 (which I otherwise really like) - I own my computer, I'm the only user, I gave myself full Admin rights, I turned off all the security checks I can find, and STILL there are files it won't let me edit!
Win7 is the first OS for me not to keep me from needing Admin rights. Actually, all my games are on a different drive, but other wise the directory is the same.

What is the reason for NOT installing to the ProgramFiles(x86)??
So where does one find DirectX 11. That is the one thing I hate about MS, is I never find what i am looking for in their downloads section. And when i do, their descriptions always make me thing they are speaking in tongues.
Post edited October 29, 2010 by Wailwulf
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Wailwulf: What is the reason for NOT installing to the ProgramFiles(x86)??
Win7 treats this folder & subfolders as part of it's system files, along with C:\Windows, etc. As such, they have a level of security even if you turn all the obvious security off. I found I could not edit some game Config files when installed there, for instance.

As for DirectX 11, try here : http://www.microsoft.com/games/en-us/aboutgfw/pages/directx.aspx

I did a search for directx 11 downloads. It was the first entry.
Post edited October 30, 2010 by Wulfc
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Wailwulf: What is the reason for NOT installing to the ProgramFiles(x86)??
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Wulfc: Win7 treats this folder & subfolders as part of it's system files, along with C:\Windows, etc. As such, they have a level of security even if you turn all the obvious security off. I found I could not edit some game Config files when installed there, for instance.

As for DirectX 11, try here : http://www.microsoft.com/games/en-us/aboutgfw/pages/directx.aspx

I did a search for directx 11 downloads. It was the first entry.
Interesting, will give that a try. Though I don't have any problem with the security checkpoints for the programs i have installed in such folders.

As to the link, I found it to, I then take the link that says:

Latest DirectX Downloads for Gamers

Which gives me a list of DirectX, but nothing that says "DirectX 11 Full" or anything like that. just stuff like runtime, end users, redistributer, multiplexer, and DirectX 9.0c.

As I stated, MS downloads never make any sense to me for they never use verbiage that a non-computer literate can understand.
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Wailwulf: As I stated, MS downloads never make any sense to me for they never use verbiage that a non-computer literate can understand.
Ah, good point. I work in IT - I translate MS BS to English as a matter of course :-)

You want the End-User Runtime file download.
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Wailwulf: As I stated, MS downloads never make any sense to me for they never use verbiage that a non-computer literate can understand.
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Wulfc: Ah, good point. I work in IT - I translate MS BS to English as a matter of course :-)

You want the End-User Runtime file download.
Thanks for the help but still no luck, Uninstalled and changed location to C:games. tried the -w trick, no luck. Tried the notepad trick, got into the red baron file, no luck. Curious thing, intro ends and the game crashes, error says Red baron 2 single player has stopped working. Donwloaded this from GOG, which i thought was patched up. Any clues? Wili
Post edited October 30, 2010 by wili_rovfar
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Wulfc: Ah, good point. I work in IT - I translate MS BS to English as a matter of course :-)

You want the End-User Runtime file download.
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wili_rovfar: Thanks for the help but still no luck, Uninstalled and changed location to C:games. tried the -w trick, no luck. Tried the notepad trick, got into the red baron file, no luck. Curious thing, intro ends and the game crashes, error says Red baron 2 single player has stopped working. Donwloaded this from GOG, which i thought was patched up. Any clues? Wili
You can try this to see if it finds the problem. What it does is starts RB3D SP and records all the files that are looked for by the game. In most cases, the last file/files looked for is where the problem lies.

I uploaded this from my own RB3D files, as it seems to not be hosted at GabiLaser's filefront site anymore.

http://cid-e196374a237958b4.office.live.com/self.aspx/RBFILES/RBLogger.rar

It was designed to help modders find out why their mods was crashing in the middle of a game, usually the game calling up a BMP that was misnamed or improper save format.
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wili_rovfar: Thanks for the help but still no luck, Uninstalled and changed location to C:games. tried the -w trick, no luck. Tried the notepad trick, got into the red baron file, no luck. Curious thing, intro ends and the game crashes, error says Red baron 2 single player has stopped working. Donwloaded this from GOG, which i thought was patched up. Any clues? Wili
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Wailwulf: You can try this to see if it finds the problem. What it does is starts RB3D SP and records all the files that are looked for by the game. In most cases, the last file/files looked for is where the problem lies.

I uploaded this from my own RB3D files, as it seems to not be hosted at GabiLaser's filefront site anymore.

http://cid-e196374a237958b4.office.live.com/self.aspx/RBFILES/RBLogger.rar

It was designed to help modders find out why their mods was crashing in the middle of a game, usually the game calling up a BMP that was misnamed or improper save format.
Ok, here is what the prograqm says
00000000 0.00000000 [3540] d:\baron.ico
00000001 0.00453107 [3540] \\.\DARKMONO.VXD
00000002 0.00455820 [3540] \\.\MONO
00000003 0.00626569 [3540] Data\Simpatch\tpref.dat
00000004 0.00634782 [3540] Data\Shellpat\tpref.dat
00000005 0.00642372 [3540] tpref.dat
00000006 0.00649522 [3540] Data\tpref.dat
00000007 0.00657258 [3540] Data\tpref.dat
00000008 0.03025674 [3540] .\data\rbprefs.dat
00000009 5.30521727 [3540] .\data\lowres.vol
00000010 5.30539942 [3540] .\data\lowres.vol
00000011 5.30556393 [3540] .\data\rb.vol
00000012 5.31860113 [3540] .\data\rbshell.vol
00000013 5.32701015 [3540] .\data\rbtest.vol
00000014 5.32718420 [3540] .\data\rbtest.vol
00000015 5.36192036 [3540] Data\Simpatch\click.wav
00000016 5.36210871 [3540] Data\Shellpat\click.wav
00000017 5.36464739 [3540] Data\Simpatch\pgturn1.wav
00000018 5.36481762 [3540] Data\Shellpat\pgturn1.wav
00000019 5.36643744 [3540] Data\Simpatch\pgturn2.wav
00000020 5.36660624 [3540] Data\Shellpat\pgturn2.wav
00000021 5.36890936 [3540] Data\Simpatch\bookcls1.wav
00000022 5.36907530 [3540] Data\Shellpat\bookcls1.wav
00000023 5.37360144 [3540] Data\Simpatch\bookcls2.wav
00000024 5.37377930 [3540] Data\Shellpat\bookcls2.wav
00000025 5.77458858 [3540] Data\Simpatch\cursors.pba
00000026 5.77505350 [3540] Data\Simpatch\cursors.pba
00000027 6.69275570 [3540] Data\Simpatch\title.bmp
00000028 6.69329214 [3540] Data\Shellpat\title.bmp
00000029 6.71635342 [3540] Data\Simpatch\rmmain.pba
00000030 6.71647501 [3540] Data\Shellpat\rmmain.pba
00000031 6.73003149 [3540] Data\Simpatch\title.pal
00000032 6.73420191 [3540] Data\Shellpat\title.pal
00000033 6.73871899 [3540] Data\Simpatch\rmmain.pft
00000034 6.73878193 [3540] Data\Shellpat\rmmain.pft
00000035 6.74327183 [3540] Data\Simpatch\rmmain.dat
00000036 6.74335480 [3540] Data\Shellpat\rmmain.dat
00000037 6.74377871 [3540] shellsnd\menu2.wav
00000038 6.75365782 [3540] shellsnd\menu1.wav

Thanks again for all your help Wili
I'd suggest you find that last sound file & try and play it - it's just a wav file, so double clicking on it should open it up in Media Player. If that fails, try another wav in there - looks like your problem is sound anyway.
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Wulfc: I'd suggest you find that last sound file & try and play it - it's just a wav file, so double clicking on it should open it up in Media Player. If that fails, try another wav in there - looks like your problem is sound anyway.
I don't think it actually is the sound file itself.

For me, when using PL1 Terrain graphics, I crash when the game is looking for bookcls2.wav I have taken a sound file that I know works in RB3D (scream from jumping from the plane), copied and renamed it and placed it in all the folders. Still a crash, so it might not be the sound file itself.

Just did three tests again, and for two, the last line said looking for bookcls2.wav, and one test, bookcls2.wav was second to last line. The last line, which I had never seen before, said "Error 126".

According to a Google search, Error 126 is usually a missing or corrupted dll file.
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Wulfc: I'd suggest you find that last sound file & try and play it - it's just a wav file, so double clicking on it should open it up in Media Player. If that fails, try another wav in there - looks like your problem is sound anyway.
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Wailwulf: I don't think it actually is the sound file itself.

For me, when using PL1 Terrain graphics, I crash when the game is looking for bookcls2.wav I have taken a sound file that I know works in RB3D (scream from jumping from the plane), copied and renamed it and placed it in all the folders. Still a crash, so it might not be the sound file itself.

Just did three tests again, and for two, the last line said looking for bookcls2.wav, and one test, bookcls2.wav was second to last line. The last line, which I had never seen before, said "Error 126".

According to a Google search, Error 126 is usually a missing or corrupted dll file.
I don't think its a sound file either. Sometimes a bit of the music plays before crash, other times not. Any ideas why the error message says "Red Baron II single player has stopped"? I downloaded RB3D from GOG and the icon says 3d . I thought this download was up to date on patches, no? Thanks for all the help Wili