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One of the things I'm liking that GOG is doing is that even the indie games they're bringing to the fold have that "old game" vibe, be it in graphics, difficulty or just plain style. So even if the game is not old and doesn't have that nostalgia factor, it's usually something that caters to many of the old game lovers here, and better yet, it's something that said players have never played before.
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Magmarock: So I often read comments about people complaining about older game not on gog. Well

I spoke the gog staff about this a while ago and they said the the biggest issues with older games is the legal proceedings. Getting the license and rights to sell old games is hard because the old publishers that made those games went under and the rights to the IP bounce around from place to place.

As much as I too want to see older games here if the publishers aren't willing to grant the permits to sell their IP, there's not much gog can do about it. You can however find out who is doing permission and send said company a few emails. And if that doesn't work you can always spam them with porn XD
While this may very well be true to an extent Gog has gone through the hoops to get certain older classics like BG/BG2/IWD/IWD2/PT and the like - we cant assume they wont do it again for certain other older games in demand (within reason). I have to be honest and admit im one of those who was not terribly happy indie/newer (lets face it, most of the 'new' games are indie) would be the greater focus of the site, and while indies are great, hopefully Gog will still try for older games (and not put them into the too hard basket to obtain - there are HEAPS and HEAPS of older classic games out there).
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Garugo: That is an issue I'm starting to see more and more here. There are quite a few indie games that normally sell for $5 or less that we won't ever see here because GOG's baseline is $6. Prices higher are fine, but any lower and I guess they see it as cheapening a product.

Two examples that come to mind right away are WizOrb and the Breath of Death VII/Cthulhu Saves the World bundle. Both have a default price of about $3, and because of that, I doubt we will ever see them come here. I do wish GOG's opening of price points will truly open up for lower priced items, and not just higher ones someday.
Vote for it on the wishlist:

Regular price points below $5.99!
Post edited November 01, 2012 by Barry_Woodward
Possibly relevant (I honestly didn't read much of this thread):

http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/sooooodoes_gog_still_stands_for_good_old_games/post24

http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/sooooodoes_gog_still_stands_for_good_old_games/post39
Post edited November 01, 2012 by Fuzzyfireball
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anjohl: Because they are trying to compete with the other Steamabes like Impulse and Gamersgate now, because a bunch of well-meaning idiots voted that they would like non Good Old Games on here, and more price points.

Funny, there havn't been any price points LESS than $5.99, and games still don't go on sale to the degree that they do on Steam.
"More price points" does not necessarily mean only more sub-$5.99 price points. I don't think anyone really expected GOG to start selling Witcher 2, Farcry 2 or Alan Wake for $3.99 + discount, when they expand to newer games too.

That's exactly the problem with people like you: you demand GOG should try to release only games that are both hard to acquire (rights to), and which may be very problematic to get running reliably on modern PCs and OSes (just think how much grief and bad press towards GOG games like Interstate'76, Silver, Gorky 17 and Dungeon Keeper 2 (originally) brought.).

And at the same time, you demand that GOG should sell such problematic niche-games for a buck or two. Are you serious?
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anjohl: I guess the real questions were:
1) "Will you pay more for games on Gog.com?"
2" Will you buy indy games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere?"
For both questions, it doesn't really matter that much what people say in surveys. GOG will certainly find it out first-hand what games sell here and at what price points. If people don't want to buy certain GOG games for given prices, then that'll teach GOG not to bring more of such games to GOG, at least at given price points.

If you don't agree with the terms or prices of any games, just don't buy them. That's what I do constantly, both related to the price and the level of DRM, among other things.
Post edited November 01, 2012 by timppu
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mondo84: Hey look, it's this thread again. :)
We need one of these threads every week, just to keep GOG on their toes.

Also, if a game coming out in the next hour or so?
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anjohl: 2" Will you buy indy games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere?"
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langurmonkey: You mean, will you buy DRM free indie games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere. Yeah, you are paying more for some GOGs but they are DRM free.
DRM-free is not a justification for higher pricing when it comes to Indie games since 9 times out of 10 they are already available DRM-free before they even come to GOG. The Indie scene overall is already pretty DRM-free without GOG.
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langurmonkey: You mean, will you buy DRM free indie games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere. Yeah, you are paying more for some GOGs but they are DRM free.
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Pheace: DRM-free is not a justification for higher pricing when it comes to Indie games since 9 times out of 10 they are already available DRM-free before they even come to GOG. The Indie scene overall is already pretty DRM-free without GOG.
True comment.
I think GOG's DRM-freeness is more helpful for easy installs for those multi-CD games, or for cracking those old DOS games those awful "Turn the manual to page 71, paragraph 3, line 2, word 7" DRM.
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Crosmando: I think GOG's DRM-freeness is more helpful for easy installs for those multi-CD games, or for cracking those old DOS games those awful "Turn the manual to page 71, paragraph 3, line 2, word 7" DRM.
It's not like they removed it from ALL games.

AFAIK Worlds of Ultima has this still. Because typing random words doesn't work and the game shuts down.
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langurmonkey: You mean, will you buy DRM free indie games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere. Yeah, you are paying more for some GOGs but they are DRM free.
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Pheace: DRM-free is not a justification for higher pricing when it comes to Indie games since 9 times out of 10 they are already available DRM-free before they even come to GOG. The Indie scene overall is already pretty DRM-free without GOG.
Where can you get cheaper games that are DRM free? Not at Steam. Do you need Desura to run the games you purchased from them? If yes, then those indie games are not DRM free too.
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langurmonkey: Where can you get cheaper games that are DRM free? Not at Steam. Do you need Desura to run the games you purchased from them? If yes, then those indie games are not DRM free too.
Are you new to Indie gaming? DRM-free has been a staple of it for ages already, it's not something unique to GOG. With Indie games it's extremely common. And who's talking about Desura? Indie games are more often than not available DRM free from the developers own sites for instance. (although I believe Desura should have plenty of DRM-free titles as well)

Most the Indie games that came to GOG were already available DRM-free before they came here. That's why some people aren't particularly excited over seeing older Indie games being released, since it doesn't add anything, contrary to older games where GOG is in most cases the only place to get it, especially in the states they usually release it.

Even newer Indie games released on GOG aren't DRM-free exclusively to GOG in a lot of cases. (but at least in those cases it doesn't feel redundant anymore compared to games that were already released DRM-free on sales countless times in the last years before now arriving on GOG. That's the nature of it though, it's normal they play catchup with the titles).
Post edited November 01, 2012 by Pheace
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anjohl: Because they are trying to compete with the other Steamabes like Impulse and Gamersgate now, because a bunch of well-meaning idiots voted that they would like non Good Old Games on here, and more price points.

Funny, there havn't been any price points LESS than $5.99, and games still don't go on sale to the degree that they do on Steam.

I guess the real questions were:
1) "Will you pay more for games on Gog.com?"
2" Will you buy indy games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere?"
when you buy something on GOG your not pay just for the game or just because they have great support, and they do :). but because your also pay to keep GOG and it's wonderful community alive. so yes i'd pay 1x more any day to have my games on GOG.
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langurmonkey: Where can you get cheaper games that are DRM free? Not at Steam. Do you need Desura to run the games you purchased from them? If yes, then those indie games are not DRM free too.
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Pheace: Are you new to Indie gaming?
No, I'm not new to indie gaming. I just like using Steam, Gamersgate, Desura and GOG. Much more convenient than doing research on indie games, figuring out which ones I want, then going to a dozen different websites to purchase indie games. And where can you get cheaper games that are DRM free? From my experience, games from the developer's own sites are usually DRM free like you said but cost more.
Post edited November 01, 2012 by langurmonkey
Perception < 4
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Magmarock: :::Getting the license and rights to sell old games is hard because the old publishers that made those games went under and the rights to the IP bounce around from place to place. :::
So what do people think, will the top 20 of the current wishlist come here in the foreseeable future or is what we have already more or less the maximum of what we can get?

I will be pessimistic until proven wrong. For example this week there hasn't any really new classic game come here.
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anjohl: 2" Will you buy indy games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere?"
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langurmonkey: You mean, will you buy DRM free indie games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere. Yeah, you are paying more for some GOGs but they are DRM free.
Maybe not many people are buying Indie games here - we don't know.
Post edited November 02, 2012 by Trilarion