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Navagon: I just wish there was something about the first game that made it stand out more. It just felt and looked so lost in the middle ground between the rest of the market. It's not a bad game, but there's almost zero compulsion to play it.
As far as i remember the original game was really meant more for casual play rather than hardcore gamer so to say. Hack slash random generating dungeons (which did get a bit repetitive after a while) story was so so. Still loved it :).
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Sogi-Ya: I really hope not, but the way Runic was all buddy buddy with steam on the first one it's not off the table.

I have no issue with it being SOLD on steam (and said Steam sold versions requiring the client) just so long as all the other versions not sold on it don't require it too.
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Tizzysawr: Versions of the first game bought outside of steam didn't require steam.

Versions bought on steam had achievements and your save games were kept on the cloud, so that you'd never lose them.
Thanks. I have a ton of games on Steam but i will buy Torchlight 2 off the official site when its available methinks :).Achievements are ...ho hum ;)
Post edited August 27, 2011 by nijuu
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nijuu: As far as i remember the original game was really meant more for casual play rather than hardcore gamer so to say. Hack slash random generating dungeons (which did get a bit repetitive after a while) story was so so. Still loved it :).
Deathspank was a lot more casual too (so is Diablo if we're really honest here). But the thing about Deathspank is that it had bags more personality, they did a lot more with the art style and generally the game was distinct and compelling enough for me to want to see the end. Same goes for Bastion and a few others I could name.

Don't get me wrong though, you enjoyed it and that's what matters.
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nijuu: As far as i remember the original game was really meant more for casual play rather than hardcore gamer so to say. Hack slash random generating dungeons (which did get a bit repetitive after a while) story was so so. Still loved it :).
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Navagon: Deathspank was a lot more casual too (so is Diablo if we're really honest here). But the thing about Deathspank is that it had bags more personality, they did a lot more with the art style and generally the game was distinct and compelling enough for me to want to see the end. Same goes for Bastion and a few others I could name.

Don't get me wrong though, you enjoyed it and that's what matters.
Admittedly Torchlight did lack depth in terms of plot, but didnt really expect much of a hacknslash game.
I played Deathspank - and your right about the personality and the way it did things.
How did u find Bastion?
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nijuu: How did u find Bastion?
I loved Bastion, but I wouldn't put it in the same bag as Torchlight. Even when bastion plays like a dungeon crawler, it isn't a lootfest, it has no randomly generated environments (everything's set). However, it also has a much more interesting and better set setting than Torchlight does, and you actually play through the story wondering what'll happen, even when the plot isn't anything to write home about.
Why don't GoG bring in new titles? I really like games with no DRM!. Will it be available in GoG?
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archaven: Why don't GoG bring in new titles? I really like games with no DRM!. Will it be available in GoG?
Good Old Games.
They only sell The Wither 2 because CDPR is owned by the same company as GOG.
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archaven: Why don't GoG bring in new titles? I really like games with no DRM!. Will it be available in GoG?
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OmegaX: Good Old Games.
They only sell The Wither 2 because CDPR is owned by the same company as GOG.
I know.. GoG is a game distribution service more like others digital game distribution services. They could gain more profit if they omit the Good OLD Games. Old games is a niche market. If GoG were to compete with other digital distribution services like steam.. they should forget about the word 'Old'. They have ONE advantage over other distribution services. No DRM.

My opinion of course.
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OmegaX: Good Old Games.
They only sell The Wither 2 because CDPR is owned by the same company as GOG.
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archaven: I know.. GoG is a game distribution service more like others digital game distribution services. They could gain more profit if they omit the Good OLD Games. Old games is a niche market. If GoG were to compete with other digital distribution services like steam.. they should forget about the word 'Old'. They have ONE advantage over other distribution services. No DRM.

My opinion of course.
You try to convince UbiSoft of selling Driv3r for no DRM, same price worldwide, and at either a $5.99 or $9.99 price tag. If you do that, I'm sure GoG will gladly sell it.
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OmegaX: Good Old Games.
They only sell The Wither 2 because CDPR is owned by the same company as GOG.
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archaven: I know.. GoG is a game distribution service more like others digital game distribution services. They could gain more profit if they omit the Good OLD Games. Old games is a niche market. If GoG were to compete with other digital distribution services like steam.. they should forget about the word 'Old'. They have ONE advantage over other distribution services. No DRM.

My opinion of course.
GOG has trouble convincing publishers to allow them to sell their OLD titles without DRM and without regional restrictions at the same price. I doubt any big publisher would agree to those terms for new game. Only indie developers would agree to it but most of them already offer their games DRM-free on other stores so GOG loses its appeal.
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archaven: I know.. GoG is a game distribution service more like others digital game distribution services. They could gain more profit if they omit the Good OLD Games. Old games is a niche market. If GoG were to compete with other digital distribution services like steam.. they should forget about the word 'Old'. They have ONE advantage over other distribution services. No DRM.

My opinion of course.
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Tizzysawr: You try to convince UbiSoft of selling Driv3r for no DRM, same price worldwide, and at either a $5.99 or $9.99 price tag. If you do that, I'm sure GoG will gladly sell it.
Well guess it's a competitive business in digital distribution. Some publishers failed to see that DRM brings next to nothing in countering piracy. That is why steam have the cloud services for achievements as added extra i guess.
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archaven: I know.. GoG is a game distribution service more like others digital game distribution services. They could gain more profit if they omit the Good OLD Games. Old games is a niche market. If GoG were to compete with other digital distribution services like steam.. they should forget about the word 'Old'. They have ONE advantage over other distribution services. No DRM.

My opinion of course.
You could argue that GOG could turn in more profit if they started selling cars, and candy. There's a lot of profit to be made in car sales, you know, and people do buy candy. :p
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OmegaX: Good Old Games.
They only sell The Wither 2 because CDPR is owned by the same company as GOG.
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archaven: I know.. GoG is a game distribution service more like others digital game distribution services. They could gain more profit if they omit the Good OLD Games. Old games is a niche market. If GoG were to compete with other digital distribution services like steam.. they should forget about the word 'Old'. They have ONE advantage over other distribution services. No DRM.

My opinion of course.
GOG is all about classic OLD games (DRM free), many of which either made available first time or cant be found digitally available elsewhere (or easily found - ie P:ST,BG and IWD was pretty much a first digitally speaking)
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tarangwydion: Happened to me on Sacred Gold. Needless to say I have not finished that game.
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Sogi-Ya: the catch to Torchlight's equipment system is that it's armor sets cycle, so you can have an epic/high level version of the same piece of armor that you got at a lower level (like chain mail). it eases the OCD burden because you can still collect full sets of armor AND ditch shit with low stats.
Thanks for the info. I have no inventory OCD problem with Torchlight, though. I did, however, have it with Sacred Gold.

Looking forward to Torchlight 2!
Thread necro to say:

They added the launch trailer, very Samurai Jack looking: http://www.torchlight2game.com/news/2012/04/20/revealing-the-torchlight-ii-opening-cinematic/

It looks like they've had time to include a more fleshed out story this time and want to do this kind of stuff as a compromise between full CG and in game cinematics. Good blog post to go with it.

Also for pure cuteness watch the Papillon (which actually means butterfly, btw) video on this page: http://www.torchlight2game.com/news/2012/04/13/pax-east-wrap-up-part-one/
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StingingVelvet: Not sure why anyone would call Diablo 3 a better deal at this point.
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KavazovAngel: Your local Blizzard fanboy called Angel Kavazov would. :p

But would also get Torchlight 2 too.

Just like I don't care about MW vs BF, so do I not care about D3 vs Torchlight. Getting both games would give you the best gaming experience.
This!