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Delixe: I hate myself for saying this but I hope Bethseda fuck Interplay. The Interplay we all know and love is long dead. All Interplay is now is an IP squatter. The very fact they went into the deal with Bethesda hoping to ride their coat trail speaks volumes.
I would have agreed with that, but everyone who knew how to make good CRPGs left or was forced out of Bethesda years ago. All that are left now, are the disastrous duo of Toddles and Petey Boy.
e.g. Daggerfall was large and pretty fun, and good move from Arena. Morrowind while smaller still had a great deal of character and good RPG mechanics, and then we slid down to Oblivious which was, well, oblivious but with pretty graphics(1st person melee/adventure with extra lousy writing and voice "acting"), and again FO3 (gack) more pretty graphics and not much meat, more like a FPS than an RPG. Oh and of course, they must now inundate us with inane addons like $2 hhhhooooooorrrrrsssssseeeeee aaaahhhhhhmmmmmmuuuuuuurrrrrrrhhhhhh and other things that got cut from the games to nickle and dime the vain out of more cash while adding little in the way of effective content. Of course EA is now going down this sad road with bioware... I knew that bioware would get screwed in that deal given EA's history of destroying purchased studios...
Post edited October 18, 2009 by cutterjohn
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cutterjohn: and again FO3 (gack) more pretty graphics and not much meat, more like a FPS than an RPG.

I completely agree with you about Oblivion however I really, really enjoyed Fallout 3. Yes it is more of an FPS than an RPG but it has a great story and the DLC is actually worth it. Unlike that horse armour crap. I personally can't wait for the Last Vegas version next year. Sure its more of a big expansion pack than a true sequel but more of the same when its as good as Fallout 3 is no bad thing IMO.
Why does everybody get so worked up over these battles between gaming companies? Speaking for myself, I have no particular emotional attachment to Bethesda or Interplay. My only interest in how this trial turns out lies in how it will affect my future gaming prospects.
That said, the legal argument posed by the dude from ragingbull doesn't sound all that sound. From what I know of the Fallout franchise contract, Interplay has, at the very least, been treading as close to the legal line as they could manage in order to continue profiting from Fallout 1, 2, and Tactics. They also have not gone to work producing the MMO they have promised. And if Bethesda has been complaining about these transgressions all this time, so what? They have a legal right to do so.
I suspect that Interplay will lose this trial. I think this to be the optimal outcome for me, because Interplay does not plan to produce any videogames that I care about the near future, and Bethesda has produced a sizable run of titles that I liked/want to play.
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Prator: Why does everybody get so worked up over these battles between gaming companies? Speaking for myself, I have no particular emotional attachment to Bethesda or Interplay. My only interest in how this trial turns out lies in how it will affect my future gaming prospects.

I care because these battles put Interplay into jeopardy. If Interplay goes down the tubes, so may Descent and Freespace. I prefer legal sources for the content packs that my source ports require.
My motives are selfish. :)
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Snickersnack: I care because these battles put Interplay into jeopardy. If Interplay goes down the tubes, so may Descent and Freespace. I prefer legal sources for the content packs that my source ports require.
My motives are selfish. :)

Only Interplay will go down the crapper. Other publishers will come along and buy up those IP's. A discarded IP is like a Dog that speaks, very rare.
Anything involving NMA I dismiss. They are a bunch of crazy elitists living in the past expecting a game to be released someday that will never exist.
That said, what does Interplay hope to accomplish? Their company is dead. They claim to be working on numerous titles, but they have a history of financial problems that lead me to believe none of them may ever see the light of day.
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Wraith: Anything involving NMA I dismiss. They are a bunch of crazy elitists living in the past expecting a game to be released someday that will never exist.

This is not something I could ever agree with, having visited their forums quite a few times.
As someone who has also played through the normal FO3 game (unmodded, without DLC), I can also see exactly where they are coming from with regards to FO3 being a different type of game to FO1/2.
They make no secret of what they would have preferred (and some are very vocal about it) but they're hardly expecting interplay to suddenly announce van buren.
The website is now based around fallout modding and indie post-apoc games.
Not sure how they got this reputation for being rabid dogs, there are many far worse places on the internet.
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Andy_Panthro: As someone who has also played through the normal FO3 game (unmodded, without DLC),
I played it on Xbox 360 at launch too!
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Andy_Panthro: Not sure how they got this reputation for being rabid dogs, there are many far worse places on the internet.

They got the reputation for seriously blasting anyone who came into their forums saying anything positive about Fallout 3. Go search Something Awful for their posts on NMA and you'll see WHY they started trolling their boards.
one question if Bethesda win would they pull the original fallout games off GOG or steam ?
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darthcobley: one question if Bethesda win would they pull the original fallout games off GOG or steam ?

It's not just that, but all the Interplay games on GOG and elsewhere that would be affected. If Bethesda win then Interplay would most likely go bankrupt. Which would mean that their IP gets sold off to the highest bidder. We can't really tell what would happen at this point. But their IP being sold off would be a mixed blessing.
heres a crazy idea GOG could buy up those IP on the cheap?
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darthcobley: heres a crazy idea GOG could buy up those IP on the cheap?

Well, don't forget that GOG is owned and run by CD Projekt - creators of The Witcher. So it's not completely unrealistic to assume that they'd be interested in one or two as it would also mean they could develop further additions to the purchased series. But it's wishful thinking to hope they'd outbid others vying for a slice of Interplay.
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darthcobley: heres a crazy idea GOG could buy up those IP on the cheap?
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Navagon: Well, don't forget that GOG is owned and run by CD Projekt - creators of The Witcher. So it's not completely unrealistic to assume that they'd be interested in one or two as it would also mean they could develop further additions to the purchased series. But it's wishful thinking to hope they'd outbid others vying for a slice of Interplay.
Here's a crazy idea, The Witcher on GOG..
well thats the only game that is guaranteed to appear on GOG at some point in the future