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PhoenixWright: Ugh, I liked GOG before all of this senseless Steam bashing.

"Senseless"? Objection, yout honor!
You should (re)read some topics here about Steam...
But if you really want to talk honestly, okay. I find it senseless to (accept such conditions, that you will never read in detail btw, and) buy anything from Steam.
Post edited September 21, 2009 by DarthKaal
Some of them bring up valid complaints, and others, like the post I responded to, are making things up.
well I buy games that are super cheap there and the games run fine so for me it makes perfect sense Yeah yeah drm but honeslty I havent had a problem with it so far.
Post edited September 21, 2009 by CaptainGyro
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Faithful: No steam is a good thing. They are DRM on every game!
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Petrell: But look at the bright side, with most of Steam games you get double DRM (Steam and what ever is in game beforehand)! Not many services can compete with that!

Wow, you are so right! Double the DRM for the same price, what a deal! :o)
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Petrell: But look at the bright side, with most of Steam games you get double DRM (Steam and what ever is in game beforehand)! Not many services can compete with that!
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PhoenixWright: That's just lying. It's happened in a few cases, but not "most" by any means. Ugh, I liked GOG before all of this senseless Steam bashing.

Senseless?? I spoke exactly what reality is using Steam. Steam is the DRM on every (Yes I mean Every) game they sell. And Petrell is correct in that, if a game has DRM associated with it, that too is part of the deal/game.
Steam = DRM
Steam + DRM Game = Double DRM on your computer.
Hard to explain any other way, but I am open to listen.
Post edited September 21, 2009 by Faithful
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PhoenixWright: Some of them bring up valid complaints, and others, like the post I responded to, are making things up.

Self-righteous rhetoric FTW!
List of Steam Games with Additional DRM
"With most of Steam games you get double DRM"
Hopefully, what I'm showing here is that very few Steam games have your double DRM situation.
Post edited September 21, 2009 by PhoenixWright
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Faithful: I am open to listen.

Now, that is a lie. :D
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PhoenixWright: Some of them bring up valid complaints, and others, like the post I responded to, are making things up.
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Darling_Jimmy: Self-righteous rhetoric FTW!

Can you further explain what you mean?
never mind
Post edited September 21, 2009 by CaptainGyro
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PhoenixWright: List of Steam Games with Additional DRM
"With most of Steam games you get double DRM"
Hopefully, what I'm showing here is that very few Steam games have your double DRM situation.

If you mean that considering the size of stEAm's catalogue the % of games with additional DRM is fairly low, i agree with you.
There are many valid complaints though, like regional prices, regional locks, the client, the subscription model, the SSA, the (lack of) support, the non disclosure policy regarding just about everything, etc.
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Darling_Jimmy: Self-righteous rhetoric FTW!
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PhoenixWright: Can you further explain what you mean?

A number of people around here really hate Steam. The obvious solution is to not use the service if they are unsatisfied with the service. It seems, however, that they don't actually want a solution. They want something to hate. They have turned numerous threads into broken-record-like hatefests. It is tiresome but they won't stop. You can disagree but it is as if you are challenging a religion: they won't be open to logic or discussion unless it supports (or can be twisted in to supporting) their position.
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Namur: stEAm's

Why do you capitalize EA?
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Namur: stEAm's
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Zeewolf: Why do you capitalize EA?

stEAm....valvEA...get it now ? :)
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Namur: stEAm....valvEA...get it now ? :)

Um, not really. I mean, there's no link between EA and Steam if that's what you mean, and EA is just a retail distribution partner for Valve, like they are for many other independent developers.
If that's what you're thinking about... :)
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Namur: stEAm....valvEA...get it now ? :)
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Zeewolf: Um, not really. I mean, there's no link between EA and Steam if that's what you mean, and EA is just a retail distribution partner for Valve, like they are for many other independent developers.
If that's what you're thinking about... :)

It's a joke about how they're becoming as greedy and 'evil' as EA :)