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You don't have to go to DotEmu to get the bundle, folks -- both GamersGate and Steam has it! :D

GG just had it on sale for something like $2.50, and individual games for $0.75 each! I got Phantasy Star IV, and I still have my original Phantasy Star II for my good 'ol Genesis, so I'm a happy camper!
Post edited April 05, 2014 by genkicolleen
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OldFatGuy: Ahh, yes it does, THANK YOU. Basically, that poster is saying one should use one save type or the other, and stick to it. I was planning on doing that anyway by just using the in game saves as was meant originally, but will make sure I do so now.

I kind of thought using both last night probably had something to do with it. Thank you for finding that.+1
You're welcome. :)
And have fun some good old retro fun.
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genkicolleen: You don't have to go to DotEmu to get the bundle, folks -- both GamersGate and Steam has it! :D

GG just had it on sale for something like $2.50, and individual games for $0.75 each! I got Phantasy Star IV, and I still have my original Phantasy Star II for my good 'ol Genesis, so I'm a happy camper!
Yeah, when I bought it at DotEmu IIRC it was on sale for $4.99 instead of the $9.99 it is now. $2.50 is really good price.
Post edited April 05, 2014 by OldFatGuy
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genkicolleen: You don't have to go to DotEmu to get the bundle, folks -- both GamersGate and Steam has it! :D

GG just had it on sale for something like $2.50, and individual games for $0.75 each! I got Phantasy Star IV, and I still have Phantasy Star II for my good 'ol Genesis, so I'm a happy camper!
I definitely took advantage of that. A bit less than 10€ for 50 Mega Drive Games was too good an opportunity to pass up.
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OldFatGuy: I never ever owned, nor knew anyone, that owned a Genesis back in the day, and never even saw one to know what they look like.
Long time Sega console fan here. The Genesis? Hands down the best console you could have had back then when it comes to RPG - sry Nintendo fans, that's the way I feel and no Zelda or Final Fantasy can change that.

Shining Force 1 and 2 are what started the tactical RPG genre for me - which may not be historical correct, but I consider them as the ones to start it all. Still an absolute blast to play nowadays, as well as the Dungeon Master like Shining in the Darkness.
Phantasy Star II is simply put, (warning: story spoilers inside) one of the greatest RPGs of that time. It started and innovated so much which is considered standard now. PS III was "just good" but missed the expectations, while PS IV is probably the best swansong possible for the Genesis.

All others in that bundle (with the excepting of the average Fatal Labyrinth) are ranging beween rock-solid and classic RPGs.
Question: Do I have to buy an emulator separately or how does it work?

Edit: Why do I need to give my home phone number to buy a video game? This is exactly why I stay with GOG.

Double Edit: Screw this.
Post edited April 05, 2014 by ShadowWulfe
Pricey. I got all 50 of the SEGA classics for $5 I believe it was on Amazon. $10 for just some of them...ouch. Dotemu is cray cray. ^^
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ShadowWulfe: Question: Do I have to buy an emulator separately or how does it work?

Edit: Why do I need to give my home phone number to buy a video game? This is exactly why I stay with GOG.

Double Edit: Screw this.
Yeah, I think I had to give my phone number too, sorry, maybe I should have mentioned that.

But no, the emulator comes with the game. In fact, it's kind of messed up in a way because each and every game downloaded was somewhere around 16MB. Which isn't much obviously, but if one is on budget, I'm betting 15 of that 16 is the emulator every single time. It doesn't install 11 different emulators, it only installs one, and all 11 games show up on the emulator, but I'm pretty sure one downloads the emulator with every single game. So if one purchased that 50 game pack, they would be downloading the emulator 50 times, and with some ISP's charging once you go over a certain download threshold, it seems like they could do better than that IMO.
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OldFatGuy:
Tried five different permutations for the personal information, none of them worked. Hopefully my credit card doesn't get flagged because I didn't enter my street address the precise way they wanted with dash lines correct, or my home phone with the incorrect parenthesis or dash.

It's probably just better to use a friend's system.

This is pretty much exactly why I stopped buying games until GOG came along.
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Siannah: Long time Sega console fan here. The Genesis? Hands down the best console you could have had back then when it comes to RPG - sry Nintendo fans, that's the way I feel and no Zelda or Final Fantasy can change that.

Shining Force 1 and 2 are what started the tactical RPG genre for me - which may not be historical correct, but I consider them as the ones to start it all. Still an absolute blast to play nowadays, as well as the Dungeon Master like Shining in the Darkness.
Phantasy Star II is simply put, (warning: story spoilers inside) one of the greatest RPGs of that time. It started and innovated so much which is considered standard now. PS III was "just good" but missed the expectations, while PS IV is probably the best swansong possible for the Genesis.

All others in that bundle (with the excepting of the average Fatal Labyrinth) are ranging beween rock-solid and classic RPGs.
I just took a break after playing some more, getting myself back up to level 5, and saving, and turning everything off, to test to see if I lose it again, but yeah man, these games look really good, and I've already gotten my money's worth out of it just in the hours I now have into Phantasy Stars 2. It's really a solid a little RPG, without the choice in what to put your points in though, but still, really fun, I'm just having a blast.

And the graphics look fine to me. In fact, I guess perhaps because it was made for a console??, to me the graphics on these games look much, much, much better than the graphics on Betrayal at Krondor whenever I inevitably fire that up once every other year or so to play again (that's one of my favorite ALL TIME games there, top 2 or 3). And BaK was made after Phantasy Stars 2, I'm pretty sure.

The graphics are functional, the gameplay is solid, and the RPG elements are all there, it's just maybe not in quite the same way us old PC veterans think of, but still, I'm finding this game to be a real charm. Wish I had found this out sooner. And to think, I only bought the package because it was half off and I just thought maybe I'd give a look. LOL, just last night and today have gone wayyyyyy beyond a look. I've probably already got over 7 hours into it.
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OldFatGuy:
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ShadowWulfe: Tried five different permutations for the personal information, none of them worked. Hopefully my credit card doesn't get flagged because I didn't enter my street address the precise way they wanted with dash lines correct, or my home phone with the incorrect parenthesis or dash.

It's probably just better to use a friend's system.

This is pretty much exactly why I stopped buying games until GOG came along.
By the way, if you do ever get it, try it, and like it enough to play more than a few minutes, I hope you don't mind me giving you a pointer about saving the games. I've only gotten far enough into 1 game (Phantasy Stars 2) to save it, but I assume since these were all console games they're all going to work alike so I just want to warn you on something because I lost several hours of play last night.

There are in-game save points that are the only places in game to save. If you're out in the open world somewhere, low on health, and on your way back to one of the save points get killed, you've lost everything from that last save point. So plan ahead if you use the in-game saving method.

If you use the emulator saving method, meaning you hit the Escape key and the little emulator comes up on the screen and there's an option to save there, you can save anywhere. If you're caught out in that open world low on life you can theoretically save it on the emulator, and keep trying to make it back to town to heal by reloading from that save point.

BUT, you need to choose ONE way to save, and stick to it. Either always use the in-game save options or always use the emulator save options, because using both causes lost data.

Bascially, if you use the in game saves, then when you exit the game by pressing esc, and then pressing "main menu" on the emulator to quit, you should choose "NO" when it asks if you want to save then. And then when you return to play, what you do is choose new game from the emulator, then when in game you can load the in game save.

Sorry if that sounds way more complicated than it is, but I just don't want others to have happen what happened to me (and others apparently) by using both forms of saves. I lost all the hours I put in last night from level 3 to level 7, and that wasn't just one hour. It was probably at least 3 hours I lost.
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OldFatGuy: I never ever owned, nor knew anyone, that owned a Genesis back in the day, and never even saw one to know what they look like.
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Siannah: Long time Sega console fan here. The Genesis? Hands down the best console you could have had back then when it comes to RPG - sry Nintendo fans, that's the way I feel and no Zelda or Final Fantasy can change that.

Shining Force 1 and 2 are what started the tactical RPG genre for me - which may not be historical correct, but I consider them as the ones to start it all. Still an absolute blast to play nowadays, as well as the Dungeon Master like Shining in the Darkness.
Phantasy Star II is simply put, (warning: story spoilers inside) one of the greatest RPGs of that time. It started and innovated so much which is considered standard now. PS III was "just good" but missed the expectations, while PS IV is probably the best swansong possible for the Genesis.

All others in that bundle (with the excepting of the average Fatal Labyrinth) are ranging beween rock-solid and classic RPGs.
Can't even come close to agreeing with that.

Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Chrono Trigger
EarthBound
Eye of the Beholder
Final Fantasy II (IV)
Final Fantasy III (VI)
Super Mario RPG
Illusion of Gaia
Secret of Evermore
Secret of Mana

In my opinion, Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG, Final Fantasy VI and Secret of Mana are better than anything that ever came out on the Genesis (and I had both). Heck Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI are two of the best examples of JRPG ever created.

Oh, and nit-pick...Zelda is not an RPG.
Post edited April 05, 2014 by marsrunner
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marsrunner: Heck Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI are two of the best examples of JRPG ever created.
There's the problem. JRPG. :P

Again, this is just my opinion but Shining Force had nothing about J in it. It was a fresh take on mixing RPG and strategy / tactics. Tactics Ogre, Final Fantasy Tactics, Disgaea.... it was an inspiration for classics to come.
Shining in the Darkness with it's Dungeon Master style, Sword of Vermilion with the actiongame battles... what Phantasy Star II achieved with the Nei character (copied in Final Fantasy VII)... that was, at least for me, more than the next JRPG, as fantastic it may have been.

No doubt, Chrono Trigger, FF, Earthbound, Secret of Mana / Evermore, Breath of Fire or Gaia are classics in their own right. Not gonna disagree here. But for me, they're pretty much all JRPG through and through, whereas the Genesis RPGs had a lot more variety.
And yes, I had a SNes too. :)
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Siannah: Long time Sega console fan here. The Genesis? Hands down the best console you could have had back then when it comes to RPG - sry Nintendo fans, that's the way I feel and no Zelda or Final Fantasy can change that.

Shining Force 1 and 2 are what started the tactical RPG genre for me - which may not be historical correct, but I consider them as the ones to start it all. Still an absolute blast to play nowadays, as well as the Dungeon Master like Shining in the Darkness.
Phantasy Star II is simply put, (warning: story spoilers inside) one of the greatest RPGs of that time. It started and innovated so much which is considered standard now. PS III was "just good" but missed the expectations, while PS IV is probably the best swansong possible for the Genesis.

All others in that bundle (with the excepting of the average Fatal Labyrinth) are ranging beween rock-solid and classic RPGs.
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marsrunner: Can't even come close to agreeing with that.

Breath of Fire
Breath of Fire II
Chrono Trigger
EarthBound
Eye of the Beholder
Final Fantasy II (IV)
Final Fantasy III (VI)
Super Mario RPG
Illusion of Gaia
Secret of Evermore
Secret of Mana

In my opinion, Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG, Final Fantasy VI and Secret of Mana are better than anything that ever came out on the Genesis (and I had both). Heck Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI are two of the best examples of JRPG ever created.

Oh, and nit-pick...Zelda is not an RPG.
Agree!

Some of the underdogs were good too...

Lufia & the Fortress of Doom
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinstrals
Harvest Moon
Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen
E.V.O. Search for Eden
Robotrek
Soulblazer
Brain Lord
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
7th Saga

SNES had some seriously GREAT RPGs!
Post edited April 05, 2014 by fortune_p_dawg
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OldFatGuy:
If I miraculously figure out how to get this moronic paying requirement to work, I will definitely choose only one way to save. Thanks for the tip, I imagine emulators can be kind of finicky, especially if the games themselves were that way in the first place.

I'm just incredibly frustrated at how difficult it is to use a credit card when I never have trouble using it for purposes that aren't buying games.

Edit: Hate using Paypal, but had to break down and do it. Hopefully these classics hit the spot!
Post edited April 06, 2014 by ShadowWulfe