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IGN has been doing a "cheers and tears" article periodically, putting the spotlight on the 5 best and worst of a particular genre or series.
Hence, it was with much predipitation I clicked on the "RPG: Cheers and tears" link today. Would IGN get it right, or would they suggest Fallout 3 is TAH BEST ERR PEE GEE EVAR?
Well, looks like they just fucking lost it.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/101/1019606p1.html
Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Mass Effect are all in the 5 cheers. None of those are even remotely worth cheering for. Mass Effect isn't even a proper RPG, it's a RPG/FPS hybrid. If you've got Mass Effect in there, then Diablo 2 should be up for contention too.
The titles in the tears section are mostly obscure, except Gothic III. I agree that the original release was too bug-ridden to be playable, but apparently IGN hasn't quite registered that things are much better now with the latest community patch - it's certainly not down there with Pompolic!
Basically, the entire article could be renamed to "Which RPGs sell the most !?!11!+1?" Where is Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer? Where is The Witcher?
IGN just lost the last drop of credibility I was willing to admit I thought the site had. Game "journalists" making lists like this should be fucking ashamed.
A long time ago, when people still read GamePro, there used to be LamePro every April Fools, and it would just mock IGN all the time, saying stuff like IGNorant and other stuff like that. I always hated IGN, mostly because they're just a bunch of kids with computers and know how to type (a bit like UGO) and it seemed like all the games that they claim are good are the ones that you see idiot 360 teens are jumping the bandwagon on.
At least 3 titles that were big console (yes, also PC) releases, and a tears section of lesser known titles... I think that says it all. It does remind me why I don't bother with such lists off such sites.
Comments are interesting, quite a bit of love for 'The Witcher' and other titles.
It seems like a list of RPG games, whose developers/distributors bribed IGN most (cheers)/least (tears).
IGN is crap on just about every level. The site design (if you can call it that), the obvious corruption in the half arsed features and reviews and the broken content/buggy coding.
Personally, I like Fallout 3, but I know full well that none of those games belong on that list.
They have Eternal Sonata in the top 5 Playstation 3 games... I know PS3 may not have alot of rpg's for it but that is not a top 5 game.
It seems like a reasonable list of the best RPGs of the last 5 years to me. Though I agree the Witcher should have been up for contention...
I know everyone here loves to hate on Oblivion and Fallout3.. but it's not like old-school RPGs are growing on trees these days.
IRONY: Whenever anybody complains that some opinion piece means a publication has "lost all credibility," said person loses a lot of credibility in my eyes.
It's an opinion piece. Unless you think they're actually lying about their choices, credibility doesn't come into it. Some people liked five RPGs more than you did. Christ, get over it.
Also, I still harbour a deep suspicion that Neverwinter Nights 2 was a genre parody.
Also, why am I even dignifying this thread with a pohguahgalugh
Post edited August 30, 2009 by frostcircus
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soulgrindr: It seems like a reasonable list of the best RPGs of the last 5 years to me. Though I agree the Witcher should have been up for contention...
I know everyone here loves to hate on Oblivion and Fallout3.. but it's not like old-school RPGs are growing on trees these days.

I don't hate Oblivion and Fallout 3 (I love the Fallout games and the third one is no exception) but I did find Oblivion lacking Morrowind's charm and the fun of it. I think people are still bitching about Oblivion because they felt they were promised much, much more than what actually came out.
This is just fishhugging incredible. That's all I can say right now.
Post edited August 30, 2009 by lowyhong
IRONY, pt.2: Calling a publication childish about two seconds after applauding playground insults.
9/10ths of these lists are invariably retardation incarnate, and like everybody's saying, IGN never had much in the way of credibility anyway, certainly not in the PC arena.
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klaymen: It seems like a list of RPG games, whose developers/distributors bribed IGN most (cheers)/least (tears).

I hear ya, bro.
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phanboy4: 9/10ths of these lists are invariably retardation incarnate, and like everybody's saying, IGN never had much in the way of credibility anyway, certainly not in the PC arena.

I don't know, IGN still is really really shitty, but UGO is worse because nobody ever goes there anyway.
Just to play devil's advocate, some of you may have missed this too:
"But rather than outline a list of the greatest RPGs ever, we've decided to take a look back at the best and worst the genre has had to offer over the last five years."
Nevertheless, I think The Witcher beats all, but then, back to my original point, it's IGN.