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chezybezy: just a hint prob dont try to get the 'secondary' function of that key to work if your doing something, im sure its system restart.

ok do you have any details of the keyboard? manufacturer etc?
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Maighstir: System request is activated by using alt, and no, it doesn't restart the system. On Windows, it copies the active window to the paste buffer (like print screen does for the whole screen).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_request
awh i stand corrected! sorry! hmm was it a linux abbreviation then?
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Potzato: Try greenshot. The free version of this software has features I can't live without anymore.

(Edit : provided your key works on a mechanical level :)
I googled greenshot. I wonder if it's save though.
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ChrisSD: It's an old Dell keyboard. Just your bog standard cheaper than cheap type.

EDIT: it says L100 on the back.
thanks, ill have a googley.
what OS you using? windows? linux? mac? xp/vista/7? 32 / 64bt?
Windows 8 32 bit. I upgraded from Vista due to frustrations with Vista.
Post edited October 11, 2013 by ChrisSD
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chezybezy: awh i stand corrected! sorry! hmm was it a linux abbreviation then?
Introduced by IBM with the PC/AT, it was intended to be available as a special key to directly invoke low-level operating system functions with no possibility of conflicting with any existing software. A special BIOS routine — software interrupt 0x15, subfunction 0x85 — was added to signal the OS when SysRq was pushed or released. Unlike most keys, when it is pressed nothing is stored in the keyboard buffer.

The specific low level function that the SysRq key was meant for was to switch between operating systems. When the original IBM-PC was created in 1980, there were three leading competing operating systems: PC DOS, CP/M-86, and UCSD p-System, while Xenix was added in 1983-1984. The SysRq key was added so that multiple operating systems could be run on the same computer, making use of the capabilities of the 286 chip in the PC/AT.
Today, it has a host of other uses instead, according to the wiki page, Linux can use it for kernel debugging.
Post edited October 11, 2013 by Maighstir
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Maighstir: snip
this is what i was thinking of:
"The magic SysRq key is a key combination understood by the Linux kernel, which allows the user to perform various low-level commands regardless of the system's state. It is often used to recover from freezes, or to reboot a computer without corrupting the filesystem."
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ChrisSD: Windows 8 32 bit. I upgraded from Vista due to frustrations with Vista.
awh that i cant fiddle around on to try offer you some basic ideas, i dont have a copy to hand to give you fiddle tips ><
Post edited October 11, 2013 by chezybezy
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ChrisSD: Ok. I'm a bit calmer now. The keyboard is old but the button physically seems to work. I've just taken off the button and used the rubber end of a pencil to press the button. It still doesn't work.
Have you tried connecting your keyboard to another device (assuming it's not a built in laptop keyboard, obviously) and/or testing whether another keyboard produces the same effect? That should reveal whether it's the computer or keyboard at fault.
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ChrisSD: Ok. I'm a bit calmer now. The keyboard is old but the button physically seems to work. I've just taken off the button and used the rubber end of a pencil to press the button. It still doesn't work.
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pi4t: Have you tried connecting your keyboard to another device (assuming it's not a built in laptop keyboard, obviously) and/or testing whether another keyboard produces the same effect? That should reveal whether it's the computer or keyboard at fault.
thankyou forgot to mention this!
or just try a different usb port. (believe me its been known to happen!)
Post edited October 11, 2013 by chezybezy
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ChrisSD: Ok. I'm a bit calmer now. The keyboard is old but the button physically seems to work. I've just taken off the button and used the rubber end of a pencil to press the button. It still doesn't work.
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pi4t: Have you tried connecting your keyboard to another device (assuming it's not a built in laptop keyboard, obviously) and/or testing whether another keyboard produces the same effect? That should reveal whether it's the computer or keyboard at fault.
As luck would have it I may be able to scare up an identical keyboard from a friend and neighbour. They got a Dell about the same time as me. I'll see...
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pi4t: Have you tried connecting your keyboard to another device (assuming it's not a built in laptop keyboard, obviously) and/or testing whether another keyboard produces the same effect? That should reveal whether it's the computer or keyboard at fault.
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ChrisSD: As luck would have it I may be able to scare up an identical keyboard from a friend and neighbour. They got a Dell about the same time as me. I'll see...
also for the fun of it, try yours in theirs after confirming theirs works on their system of course!

i have NO idea if this will work, just someone suggested it in a windows 8 thread:
"Hold down the WINDOWS BUTTON while pressing the PRT SC BUTTON."
or
"Hold Control/FN/Print Screen and then paste with Control/FN/V(view)"


e: you also dont have anything running that logs keystrokes do you?
Post edited October 11, 2013 by chezybezy
It's the keyboard. Bugger. I don't understand why it's just that one key that doesn't work. Perhaps it never worked.


p.s. Pro tip: Just because your neighbour is happy for you to come round and swap keyboards for awhile it doesn't mean their wife will be. Especially when it's nearly midnight.
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ChrisSD: It's the keyboard. Bugger. I don't understand why it's just that one key that doesn't work. Perhaps it never worked.

p.s. Pro tip: Just because your neighbour is happy for you to come round and swap keyboards for awhile it doesn't mean their wife will be. Especially when it's nearly midnight.
Pro tip - the wife is happier, if the neighbour isn't there... nudge nudge, wink wink and all that.
I wouldst not besmirch the good name of the fair Lady, nor of her honourable husband.
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Potzato: Try greenshot. The free version of this software has features I can't live without anymore.

(Edit : provided your key works on a mechanical level :)
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RedRagan: I googled greenshot. I wonder if it's save though.
Pretty much as any shareware out there I think. This one doesn't bother with toolbars and registration and upgrade to pro though (in the version I use, I don't guarantee that's still the case).
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ChrisSD: It's the keyboard. Bugger.
You should be able to find a new one for less than £10 though.
Post edited October 11, 2013 by Maighstir