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Posted April 19, 2011
If you like Science Fiction, look no further. You can't possibly go wrong with these two addictive Sci-Fi games, each with a cult following of its own.

First, there was [url=http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/star_control_1_2]Star Control, a turn-based strategy game with an addictive real-time arcade combat mode called Mêlée. This was essentially a relatively close-quarters duel between two spaceships. The most impressive thing about this mode, and the game in general, was that, somehow, the game's creators managed to make the dozen or so race-specific ship types completely different from each other, yet at the same time balanced.

Star Control 2 added even more races and ships to the fray, while retaining balance in the Mêlée mode, but changed the underlying gameplay considerably. The sequel was turned into more of a space-faring adventure game, with quests, diplomacy and character progression in the form of ship upgrades. The gameplay is as addictive as ever and the storyline is both good and believable, with tons of memorable characters, races and humor that will make you go back to this game again and again.
Posted April 19, 2011
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Khalaq: I know who made the game. What I am unclear about is whether or not they get any royalties from the retail sales of their games. They might, or they might not.

Regardless, I have other reasons for buying the game from GOG, as noted above. If you don't want to spend the money, that's your choice. However, some people are coming across as though they are trying to dissuade those of us who want to buy this package from doing so, and that seems rather slimey to me.


-Khalaq
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eyeball226: I had no problem with your other points, hence not quoting them. I also wasn't trying to dissuade you, just making sure you were aware that TFB may not be getting money from it. I seem to remember reading something about them being screwed over by Accolade and that being why Star Control 3 was developed by someone else and was so different (some might say bad). The fact that Accolade could make sequels without TFB does suggest that they got screwed over.

Still, buying this is a good idea because it will tell Atari that the name Star Control can still make money. You never know, they might contract TFB (who still exist BTW) to make Star Control 4.


EDIT: I'm going to write to Paul Reiche III and Fred Ford and find out if they're getting any money from this. It's a definite purchase if they are.
GoG would be getting our money too.....and a soundtrack as a bonus is easily worth the 5.99 in my opinion, plus with a backed up installer you can install it again if you need to.
Posted April 19, 2011
Can't say I've heard of it either, will look it up and add to wishlist...
Posted April 19, 2011
Can't you totally get Star Control 2 for free, legally?
Posted April 19, 2011
I must say GOG you are doing a fine job on these new releases, Realms of the Haunting, Alone in the Dark Trilogy and now Star Control 1+2. Well done! Played SC2 on the 3DO a long time ago.
Post edited April 19, 2011 by Hillsy_
Posted April 19, 2011
Haaaaalelujah! Could you guys release the original version of Transport Tycoon Deluxe (which has the correct music) as well?
Posted April 19, 2011
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Rakasta: Haaaaalelujah! Could you guys release the original version of Transport Tycoon Deluxe (which has the correct music) as well?
Transport Tycoon Deluxe another goodie! +1 here too!
Posted April 19, 2011
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ArbitraryWater: Can't you totally get Star Control 2 for free, legally?
Yes and the soundtrack as well, I had the Melnorme tune as my ringtone years ago.
But you can also buy it here and get SC1 for free!
Posted April 19, 2011
Don't forget the two player battles you can play outside the actual story line. Many college nights were lost to this game. We had tournaments. Each ship is so unique that just finding the best battle combinations can take awhile.

Master is a great free version of SC2, however SC1 should not be forgotten. It also has two player mode where you can battle it out in the starts. While the store lacks compared to SC2, it does give you insight into where the store in SC2 bagan. I recommend highly paying the $ to GOG for this partial collection. I also think SC3 will be out soon as well.

For those of you who do not know the game and aren't getting much info about if from other users here, there is a reason...the story is just something that has to be experienced and can't be put into words.
Posted April 19, 2011
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ArbitraryWater: Can't you totally get Star Control 2 for free, legally?
Yes, the 3DO source based "The Ur-Quan Masters" is free, open source (GPL) and completely legal. What GOG offers is the original PC (DOS?) version.
Post edited April 19, 2011 by Petrell
Posted April 19, 2011
Just to show how epic this game really is to those that don't know anything about it. GOG has a screen shot on the game page showing a galaxy. Each dot on that map is a solar system you can visit with your ship. Each solar system has multiple planets. All these planets can be mined for resources. There is more to the game than mining resources, but it gives you an idea of just how BIG this game really is.
Posted April 19, 2011
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cogadh: Seriously doubtful. Most game development work is done under a "work for hire" contract and once the job is complete, it is paid in full. TFB pretty much gets nothing out of this beyond recognition. Still, setting aside the fact that this is an awesome game, it is worth it to buy if only to support GOG and encourage Atari to continue releasing great classic games like this.
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Red_Avatar: You're thinking in 21st century terms - back in the early 90s and late 80s, many if not most developers for PC and Amiga were self-sufficient and funded the game themselves, relying on publishers to manufacture everything, advertise and take it to the stores. This was one of the reasons why games back then were so much more daring - because they had no publisher breathing down their neck trying to dumb it down to reach a broader public. Basically, the publisher was the one taking a cut from the profits and the rest went to the developer, including royalties. That's why you often had different publishers depending on where you lived - many games ended up having a different publisher in Europe since publishers back then didn't always exist on both sides of the Atlantic.
Hence why I said "seriously doubtful" instead of "definitely not". Of course there are exceptions to the "work for hire" standard in the gaming industry (which has existed a lot longer than just this century), but if this were one of them, we wouldn't be getting this title from Atari, we'd be getting it from TFB directly or whoever "inherited" the TFB rights, which would currently be Activision (they've owned TFB since 2005).
Posted April 19, 2011
As a youth I never understood the SC1 strategy game, but did spend plenty of time playing the melee portion. I've played through SC2 several times, both in its original form and as UQM. If you've never played this series then you definitely need to purchase.

Of course, SC2 was an extension / refinement of the concepts displayed in StarFlight I and II - those two games would definitely fit right in at GOG.
Posted April 19, 2011
So I guess this is the answer to the question "What game made you dream of the stars?" huh, for me I always thought it was X-Wing. I suppose I don't know myself as well as I think.
Posted April 19, 2011
I am extremely disapointed to learn this doesn't contain the far superior version of Star Control 2 that you can download for free elsewhere.

Of course, I discovered this after buying it, but whatever.
Posted April 19, 2011
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whodares2: So I guess this is the answer to the question "What game made you dream of the stars?" huh, for me I always thought it was X-Wing. I suppose I don't know myself as well as I think.
It made me dream about aliens really.
That's what the game is all about, the stars/planets are just there for resources (most of the time).
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