This :p - mature game

Is it me or are starting to nit pick here. Of course my definition of "maturity" is subjective. My whole post is "subjective" What do you expect? I wrote it, I want it to be subjective. I even want it to be incredibly subjective.

You really want to argue with me that the cheesy romance plot of Bioware's Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights 2 and Dragon Age is an attempt to please "adult" audiences?

I'm looking for games that don't cater the needs and expectations for children and teenagers. I don't mind if some more "mature" teens are playing this, even for the sake of feeling more mature. It's not about that, it's about CHOICE of the GAME Devs to cater style, story, gameplay, content, whatever but mostly for adults.

Another Idea I had was Republic the Revolution, but the game didn't work well on my PC and crashed regularly so I don't know if it is appropiate.

AHH, I have a good example:
"Papers, please!" is probably a good example of what I meant. "Ugly" visuals, "boring" controls and a politically motivated story mostly unsuited for kids that are not interested into this stuff. It helps being an adult with a similar job to identify with this brilliant game even more. So that's an example I think would fit.

And to think, I saw this on Steam and it passed Greenlight just a few days ago, but was pulled.

Thank you! Myst is a good example!
I don't know Silent Hill, so I guess you are right.
I do see your points about Planescape but I'm not convinced, granted I have difficulties finding arguments for my gut feeling so I guess, albeit with gritting teeth, I'll grant you that.

So in order for a game to be Mature, it has to be "Boring" and "Ugly"? That makes no sense. I am an adult, and I like everything from games like Papers, Please! to Terraria to Civilization to Another World to Mario and Zelda. Games are supposed to be Fun, and Unique, not Boring. Even then, Papers, Please! is going to appeal to kids as well, just not all of them.

EDIT: The tone of this post may give the connotation that I am being rude, but I am not trying to, I'm just making a point, and extremism is the best way for me to do that.

Have you tried Papers, Please? I doubt there are too many teenaged gamers out there who would have fun playing it. And if any did I would seriously worry about them.

The funny thing about maturity is, when you're running around declaring things as immature, that's simply another, different phase of immaturity.

I'd recommend looking into strategy, particularly wargames, and simulations (flight, management). Post some of your interests and I might be able to come up with some specific recommendations.

I'm sorry Zacron.
I hope you understand what I mean when I use quotations marks like "Ugly" and "Boring".

The teenagers I know of, are brilliant and enjoyably funny and witty teenagers, they like FIFA and Call of Duty and might even enjoy Mass Effect, the Witcher, Skyrim and others. I like most of those games as well. Games for a broad audience aren't bad. Mostly games who claim to be mature are bad, but that's completely unrelated to this discussion.
I'm not here to evalute quality of a game I'm not interested in giving out scores, I'm just interested if there are games that are more compelling for adult people than for younger ones.

If any of you have so much trouble with that, you have my sincerest possible apologies.

Boring ass Dad games like train driver sims
Or those that you'd have to be a weird, OCD (or possibly German) Dad to appreciate like the forklift or combine harvester or road sweeper driver ones!

Yes Prime Minister on the old 8-bits

*edit* LOL I swear I didn't check if your location was 'Germany' before I said that either!

Hell no! I don't want to play any flight simulators! :-D
I have such a backlog I rather play Dragon Age again and let my ugly wrinkled Dwarf bang the shit out of the french bard, but I was merely interested in the opinions of my fellow GOGlers and for broading my horizons.

Thank you for mentioned simulators though, they fit in pretty nicely. I haven't thought of them!

I'm not offended, and I do understand what you are saying, but even games like Sim City appeal to kids, because it's a game. That, Roller Coaster Tycoon, and more economic sims appeal to kids as well. Heck, I used to play a demo of Interplay's Rags to Riches and that is 100% geared towards adults and teens trying to get into a better financial status, and I was only like 5 or 6 at the time...

However, check out Tropico 3, it is a neat simulation game but I would think that could meet your definition, without any gore or sexual content. It still looks great, and even has a decent interface, but I don't think kids could stay interested in it once the "prettiness" wears off.

Beat me to the punch line. That's one 18+ themed game if ever there was one :P.

I think he just meant games that contain content that would be ill-advised for people under 18, though it's really a legal technicality. Most 16 years old are probably good to go for anything an older adult can stomach.

'Mature' might not be the best word to describe it, but it's the word often used. '18+' is probably more descriptive of what the op meant.

I get your frustration with the usage of the word though. Just because a game contains 'adult only' content does not mean that this content is handled in a mature way (actually, more often then not, it isn't).

The Gabriel Knight series.

Baldur's Gate,Ultima,Spec Ops:The Line...

"Appropriate for all ages" is not the opposite of "mature". It just means that it doesn't contain anything children will find disturbing. Adults may still get a lot more out of it than children will, because they understand more of the story, know references that children don't, etc. A game can be targeted at adults and still be fine for kids to play. Sanitarium is my usual example when talking about mature games in the context of "mature != blood and boobs". It's an incredibly complex story dealing with psychology and the subconscious mind. It's certainly not suitable for small children as it does contain some disturbing things, but many of them are actually mostly disturbing to adults because children wouldn't understand the implications.
The problem with either expression is that in the context of games, both of them have come to mean "Blood & Boobs" in the eyes of the general public.