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trentonlf: I have already stated I have no role.
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HijacK: What? When? Where? O_o

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trentonlf: I found the remark interesting because of the number in the name.
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HijacK: The fact they have the same ship model is interesting. We'll have to see adalia's role to understand this situation better. If they have the same ship model, what makes their roles different, assuming they have different roles.
I did not get a chance to answer you before the night phase started. Post 222 is where I said I have no role.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_24_the_not_ending_soon_war/post222


I would also mention that during the night phase I was fired upon but it did not cause me any harm as whoever did it used light weaponry that could not pierce my light armor. I am not sure what that means.
Finally!

I wonder what took so long. Was it Telika taking his time or did he have to wait for someone? Hmm...

Flub actually flipped vanilla, but it's still a pity we lost an experienced player. You shall be avenged!



Adaliabooks' try was pretty awesome. If he tried harder he might have been able to pull it off.
His demise was even better, though :D Power-role mafia on first hit? Nice! Anyway, what is Strongarm? Is it the Strongman?

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CSPVG: So, who among you shall be the first to suggest that I be lynched for sharing the same ship model as adaliabooks?
I'm led to believe that the ship models may not be as important as I gave them credit for. The dusk post made me realize that we are being infiltrated. This means our fleet consists only of our own ships and the pilots are the ones that may or may not be treacherous.

Let's resume what happened ship-wise so far, for bookkeeping:

adaliabooks claimed and flipped Inurfas Mark IV.
CSPVG claimed Inurfas Mark IV.

trentonlf claimed Inurfas Mark II and Town Vanilla.
Flubbucket flipped Inurfas Mark II and Town Vanilla.
Inurfas Mark II was featured in the OP as the first destroyed ship.



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trentonlf: I would also mention that during the night phase I was fired upon but it did not cause me any harm as whoever did it used light weaponry that could not pierce my light armor. I am not sure what that means.
This sounds weird. Did you assume this was the reason for your survival or did the message you received said so?
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dedoporno: His demise was even better, though :D Power-role mafia on first hit? Nice! Anyway, what is Strongarm? Is it the Strongman?
Yes it is (I've been also asked this during the night). Always mix up the terminology. But I have corrected the in-thread mentions of it (OP and Night post).

Also, I am at fault for the long-ish night (well, I and some game-unrelated stuff). Sorry about that.
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dedoporno: Finally!

I wonder what took so long. Was it Telika taking his time or did he have to wait for someone? Hmm...

Flub actually flipped vanilla, but it's still a pity we lost an experienced player. You shall be avenged!

Adaliabooks' try was pretty awesome. If he tried harder he might have been able to pull it off.
His demise was even better, though :D Power-role mafia on first hit? Nice! Anyway, what is Strongarm? Is it the Strongman?

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CSPVG: So, who among you shall be the first to suggest that I be lynched for sharing the same ship model as adaliabooks?
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dedoporno: I'm led to believe that the ship models may not be as important as I gave them credit for. The dusk post made me realize that we are being infiltrated. This means our fleet consists only of our own ships and the pilots are the ones that may or may not be treacherous.

Let's resume what happened ship-wise so far, for bookkeeping:

adaliabooks claimed and flipped Inurfas Mark IV.
CSPVG claimed Inurfas Mark IV.

trentonlf claimed Inurfas Mark II and Town Vanilla.
Flubbucket flipped Inurfas Mark II and Town Vanilla.
Inurfas Mark II was featured in the OP as the first destroyed ship.

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trentonlf: I would also mention that during the night phase I was fired upon but it did not cause me any harm as whoever did it used light weaponry that could not pierce my light armor. I am not sure what that means.
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dedoporno: This sounds weird. Did you assume this was the reason for your survival or did the message you received said so?
The message I received said so. Maybe it meant I was scanned? I'm not sure, just found it odd.
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trentonlf: I would also mention that during the night phase I was fired upon but it did not cause me any harm as whoever did it used light weaponry that could not pierce my light armor. I am not sure what that means.
Will be busy all day today, so will post in earnest only when I get home.

But wanted to make sure I understood. Do you mean that Telika sent you an out-of-the-blue PM to that effect?
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trentonlf: I would also mention that during the night phase I was fired upon but it did not cause me any harm as whoever did it used light weaponry that could not pierce my light armor. I am not sure what that means.
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mrkgnao: Will be busy all day today, so will post in earnest only when I get home.

But wanted to make sure I understood. Do you mean that Telika sent you an out-of-the-blue PM to that effect?
Yes Telika sent me a PM saying this.
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trentonlf: Yes Telika sent me a PM saying this.
Is this a role claim about your "armor"? Un-somethingable? Are you vanilla or do you have a role that protects you?

"Fired upon" sounds fairly dramatic.
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trentonlf: The message I received said so. Maybe it meant I was scanned? I'm not sure, just found it odd.
Weird. If you were actually hit only a couple of scenarios come to my mind:

1 a. We have a double hitter. Not sure what's the role name and you were protected by the doctor.

1 b. You were hit by a vigilante, SK or some other role that makes night-kills and you were protected by the doctor.

Why would it say that your own armor protected you and not some outside force?


2. You were scanned by someone - cop, flavor cop, not sure what is the name of the mafia sniffer role.

Again, doesn't make too much sense - why would a scan look like an attack?


3. You were role-blocked.

Once more, why would it look like an attack?


4. You are not as vanilla as you claim to be.


5. This is a red herring.


6. Other?
This will help us so much to catch next scum.
As far as I'm concerned, yogsloth and trentonlf are town.
Even though the yogsloth/adalia "fight" wasn't as big as I remembered (adalia had the biggest one with HijacK apparently), I find it hihgly unlikely that they are on the same team.
Also, trentonlf's claim would be a pretty big risk for a scum, even considering the OP.

Adalia backed off in 2 instances, after mentioning Vitek as a suspect for being defensive and after standing up for CSPVG, saying he had contributed with his (very few) posts. Of those 2 instances, I find the Vitek one the most interesting. It seemed like he was looking for an excuse to include Vitek in his first list of suspects.
His defending of CSPVG reminded me of Ixamyakxim (scum) defending flub (town) when he was in a rough spot in a previous game.

Dat CSPVG though. What's with the "one"? And why semi-claim? And why are you still alive? Why is flub dead? Did the scum really think he had powers?
I do not doubt that he is a mark IV or that a mark IV can be town. I just don't get what he was going for. He does have a history of weirdly-placed truthful claiming early on in games when he's town though, for the record. And that's the main reason I'm not too suspicious of him at the moment, along with the adalia interaction.

So I mostly like Vitek at the moment. But he's a very experienced player, I doubt there's a way to nail him based on his own actions.

P.S. New info from trent, I'll read that more seriously later.
I agree with yogsloth as town. Don't see why trent, though.

But I defended CSPVG? I don't remember that.
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Vitek: I agree with yogsloth as town. Don't see why trent, though.

But I defended CSPVG? I don't remember that.
No, did I mistype that? Adalia did.
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_24_the_not_ending_soon_war/post276

Trent claimed vanilla town and mark II. Flub flips vanilla town and mark II. It would have been awkward for him after flub's flip if he had claimed vanilla town and mark V (random example).
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Vitek: This will help us so much to catch next scum.
I'm not sure what "this" is (trentonlf's nighttime episode?), but I'm sensing that you're being sarcastic... ?
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DarkoD13: No, did I mistype that? Adalia did.
Ah, I misunderstood your post. I thought that your use of "his" was refering to me as you mentioned me in previous sentence.
My bad.
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mrkgnao: I'm not sure what "this" is (trentonlf's nighttime episode?), but I'm sensing that you're being sarcastic... ?
I see you are trained to see true nature of things. I have to bow before you. :-)
Yeah, I am no fan of discussin possible night actions, kills and what some hinted piece of info could mean. At the start of new Day I see it as was to make fake discussion that helps in no way to find mafia and distract from more useful things.

@Darko; I don't follow your last post. Why would it be awkward? We don't know that Infurias Mk2 equals vanilla. It is possible but so far only knowledge we have is that flub was one so I don't understand why it makes every other Mk2 vanilla.