Have we 2 neutrals?
We have a claimed neutral WHO IS ALSO A CONFESSED LIAR.
I have yet to see evidence of a neutral...

What question?

I don't want to lynch nmillar to confirm nmillar, I wouldn't mind lynching nmillar because I think it would help confirm darko.
Still, call it as you will.

I don't really understand this reasoning. By lynching me, Darko is confirmed as either town commuter or mafia strongman? This would still be the same whether I'm town jailkeeper or mafia jailkeeper, so no additional information than that we already have?

Ah, still - given that nmillar by your own admission is the most powerful role and that you consider him likely town, I don't see much point in preferring a lynch of nmillar above CSPVG other than having to wait a day before that reasoning in relation to him would make sense. However we have a confirmed flavor cop who looks to be a better choice for targeting Darko.

Great managed to click post before finishing...Darn those 10 minutes:

The other being Zchinque, but yea it should have been: Apparently have two neutrals.

And the other should have read; "I don't see much point in preferring a lynch of nmillar above CSPVG other than having to wait a day before that reasoning of yours in relation to cops would make sense". However we have a confirmed flavor cop who looks to be a better choice for targeting Darko, With the addition that lynching nmillar would only reveal him, and little else; if he is mafia then his claim about Darko could be part of a plan, while if he is town we have much the same situation as now, so if you want to lynch the one to attempt to target Darko I find CSPVG a more suitable and expandable target. But the whole notion is flawed and as such a different approach is required. So I am still not giving you any town points for it.

Get well soon :)

Actually, if you are a mafia jailkeeper, it is quite possible that darko is neither a commuter nor a strongman. So that would mean we'd have to look more closely.
On the other hand, if you are scum, then there's probably only one other left (though possibly two), and the more likely ones would be CSPVG (for confirming that Telika was locked in his room during night 1) and/or darko. So that would be more information than what we now have, wouldn't it?

nmillar has already targeted darko, CSPVG hasn't. Tommorow (assuming CSPVG targets darko and reports) I would find CSPVG a better lynch choice than nmillar, for the same reasons.

As I said before, I'm not sure if P1na targets the person or his room, and thus may be able to target darko even if darko is a commuter. But it does give another claimed PR to try and target darko. More information then, and quite likely that at least one of them will be alive to tell us if they could target darko.

Can you find us where this is established ?

Ignore it is.

I haven't gotten anything on the room owners themselves so far.

Given the nature of my role you probably won't be able to get anything from me ( sorry, no cookies :( ), which is still information since it will confirm my claim.
Immunity to all night actions doesn't leave much room for interpretation.

I got it from Zchinque saying he weren't in the opening scene, that he was just mod-killed rather than replaced because his role was a last minute. I haven't found a post where he specifically says it, so it is my interpretation of it. However I might just be wrong.

Amok went rather heavily after Zchinque in the beginning, just as JMich did. Wish we had gotten some info when he was mod-killed, but the lack of it is part reason why I considered him neutral as well.

A mafia jailkeeper seems overpowered for what I've seen thus far. I see no justification for lynching nmillar and I certainly can't follow the "logic" of lynching him in order to verify someone else. My opinion is a mafia jailkeeper would have to "take a night off" in order to be balanced.

Let's kill the doctor to check to see if he's town....brilliant!!

Now before you get all knotty knickers, I'm not saying nmillar is the doctor. But the jailkeeper performs a similar function as you all know.

My mind is clear. Vote: JMich

While I do think NMillar is mafia, I am not convinced by jmich's specific reason to lynch him. But I am not convinced either by Flubbucket's objection. Yes, last game did feature some "let's kill the doctor to be sure" (the motivator's lynch), and it's a tendency, but I don't get how mafia jailer is overpowered. It's a roleblocker with added protection, which means that mafia can't double-target someone (not that they do it much, I suppose), and could only protect themselves at the cost at immobilizing their precious few (I don't think jailing a mafioso was even considered in the last game, was it). And yeah, I suppose it also 'blocks' the townie (or neutral) who targets the victim, is that such an imbalance?

I used a mafia failer in the previous game. Okay, mafia won, but this wasn't the reason...

And by failer I mean jailer, yes. Anyway, I think that some, in the previous game, had assumed that jailing was town, and the results hadn't been very good. Now, again, a mafia jailer in two consecutive games may be an oddity, but I could imagine how the chalet setting would jail-ize mafia's roleblocker as it did on the ship.

I don't know what my take on this would be if I hadn't found NMillar scummy throughout this game, but i'd probably have a careful stance about jailer affiliation too.

Oh ho ho. Is that a challenge?