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Fully aware I haven't posted in days (in fact I've not managed to read the thread either). I know I've been rubbish, sorry!

I've been busy for the past few evenings and will be busy tonight too but I promise to catch up and post tomorrow at the latest (maybe tonight if I don't fall asleep as soon as I get home).
I promised some posts, but due to an impending evaluation at work I couldn't find them with the quick look I had. I have the feeling that nmillar is Prudence, thus lied about liking her, unless of course one can like herself. The other interesting thing is the discussion in posts 295-297, which does indicate that amok may not be town. On the other hand, he has admitted to lying during that period.

Drat, off to find something to drink.
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Red_Baron: Hmm in fact yes, due to the fact that I want him lynched based upon the "you shall not lie", but as I mentioned earlier and which I find support in from Pazzer, flub pretty much jumped to my scum list :) So in that regard I would prefer the one I consider the most likely scum, as opposed to the one I currently consider something which I am not sure I trust, but other than lying haven't directly acted as scum. Keep in mind I would still be highly dubious about his claim, and this scenario with me voting flubbucket instead of amok is also easily possible if amok doesn't claim anything specific, but that I see more suspect behavior from flub (or perhaps when I read backwards, as Pazzer clearly picked up on something (the voting for one with no votes, so close to deadline - shame on Joe that it was missed due to lack of vote count =).)
Well, I checked your behaviour in G15 and I admit you behaved similary. You were bit less belligerent there, leaving GR alone right after his admitted lie for several weeks before you got mildly back to him.
It aso shows you learnt nothing since then.:-/ Or that you don't want to learn as it doesn't fit your goals.
Anyway I give you scum points for still wanting to lynch him but it doesn't erase the rest of things. Like ignoring scum hunting for lynching people you deemed wrong on whin on D1.

Also reading that game again showed me how I hate everyone who played there and Robbeasy most.


@amok; can you provide your reads?
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JMich: I have the feeling that nmillar is Prudence.
Nope, and I'm quite tempted to reveal who I actually am just for the lolz.
Okay, I assume pazzer finished his read, as he's gone to voting. i'll just post three thingies I had in drafts :

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Red_Baron: Telika, what I meant by fooling, is that I have a tendency to believe both you and robbeasy to be town, even when you are not
I have never been not town, so, am not certain what your point is there (but whatever, if I had been scum I would probably been super convincing, so, okay).

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pazzer: p392 - the crazyness seems to be catching as Telika seems fixsated on if people can ski or not, surely is clearly answered in opening post
Surely clearly :
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JoeSapphire: You see there were three sets of tracks made by skis. These tracks led from the chalet to the dense fir woodland that surrounds the chalet on nearly every side, but that one that faces the sheer drop down, and then to the body of the departed foreigner whose name I cannot recall, and back to the chalet.
And you seem to not have missed this discussion (and probably not my lengthy repeated interpretation of it), so I don't know why my re-vote for Nmillar in day 2 seems to "come out of nowhere" for you.

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nmillar: I'm no longer permitted to talk about my reasoning for suspecting you, but others have made the same observation. While there is still an element of doubt surrounding yourself and SirPrimalForm, I'm still confident that at least one of you is scum.
So your reasons for suspecting Robbeasy and SirPrimalform are the things that I had pointed out in day 1. The scumteam you pretend to believe in is made of me and the two scumbuddies that I am bussing ?
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Telika: So your reasons for suspecting Robbeasy and SirPrimalform are the things that I had pointed out in day 1. The scumteam you pretend to believe in is made of me and the two scumbuddies that I am bussing ?
Pretty much. We all know Robbeasy is a compulsive liar and SirPrimalform always ends up being scum, so is a good name to throw into the mix even if there is an element of doubt.
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Vitek: @amok; can you provide your reads?
On Red?

He have stated at least twice that I am not whole untrustworthy and that all liars should be lynched on principle...

But now - if I suddenly claimed a power role, then he would happily vote flub instead - just because pazzer says so? I do not wash.
No, overall.
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Vitek: No, overall.
hmm.....

Red is on the top of my list. due to everything above.

Rob is the second on the list, due to things we can not talk about.

pazzer is moving up, the last bit he did in the recap was a bit strange, I think.

SPF is... pressing things a bit now and then. I do not like it.

nmillar is slippery, hard to nail down. I got more scum than town at the moment.

Telika has so far been very good at trying to get information out of everyone else, but has not contributed any. Take the last bit in the first day as an example.

So I have a feeling that red and rob is part of the scum team, with probably pazzer. On an equal footing bellow them I have SPF nmillar and Telika as equal, quite possible candidates.

P1na is just too strange, can turn either way.

I do get more town than scum from you and flub at the moment.

and then I got the ones I have no idea about - JMich, RSVP and Darko. To be honest - I have no idea where to put them. They have been very... bland... in this game.

anyway, that is where I am at the moment.
Hmmm, there have been some good points raised about Red_Baron. I may have to substitute him in for SirPrimalform, as he's the one of my three that I'm least sure about.
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nmillar: Hmmm, there have been some good points raised about Red_Baron. I may have to substitute him in for SirPrimalform, as he's the one of my three that I'm least sure about.
Oh suddenly you base your suspicions (and levels of certainty) on points ? What happens to omgus, roleplay and "is a compulsive liar" ?

Blurrying the line between random and grounded votes is a bit of an easy way to avoid scrutiny or justification. Keeps the "I was just fooling around" door conveniently open. Were you also playing like this when you were town ?
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Telika: Blurrying the line between random and grounded votes is a bit of an easy way to avoid scrutiny or justification. Keeps the "I was just fooling around" door conveniently open. Were you also playing like this when you were town ?
I am most definitely not fooling around. I am convinced that you and Robbeasy are definitely part of the mafia, with the remaining member being either SirPrimalform or Red_Baron.

My suspicions of Robbeasy and SirPrimalform have always been based on a point, which unfortunately we are no longer able to discuss. You yourself made those same point, so I don't really understand why you claim these are now omgus? The "compulsive liar" bit refers to this same point.

The roleplay thing only referred to one post on day one, which again we are no longer permitted to discuss.

All of my current suspicions are fully grounded - no random voting from me. To suggest otherwise, would mean you yourself are blurring the lines ...
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nmillar: I am most definitely not fooling around.
Sure. Accusing me is simple omgus. Robbeasy is simply a "it could easily have been a lie" turned into "he is a compulsive liar". SirPrimalform is the absolute exact same thing and therefore discarded. And the whole is just piled up without a regard for internal coherence.

But yeah, you claim to be "convinced" for real in all honesty. I absolutely believe you.

Now what is interesting is that you "substitute" SirPrimalform with Red_Baron. I wonder if this means that there are 3 mafiosi.
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Telika: Sure. Accusing me is simple omgus
Nope. Finding your door locked sure made it difficult for you to go and carry out the night kill though, didn't it?

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Telika: I wonder if this means that there are 3 mafiosi.
3 is the standard number, so until otherwise proven, that's the number I'll stick with.
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Telika: Sure. Accusing me is simple omgus
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nmillar: Nope. Finding your door locked sure made it difficult for you to go and carry out the night kill though, didn't it?
You mean that you have roleblocked me during this night ?

Well, two options : either somebody else has blocked the killer (and must have identified him now), or you have decided to not kill, and to lynch through a roleblock claim (true or false) instead.

As I doubt that, after the previous game, Joe would have designed a block-heavy game, I don't expect much of it to have happened. So here is what I suggest :

Lynch me tonight. Tomorrow, if someone has actually blocked the murderer, then announce him and lynch him. If not, lynch Nmillar himself.

Only flaw in that is if someone has protected me tonight, and Nmillar found the door closed. But still, I'm okay for taking that risk.


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nmillar: 3 is the standard number, so until otherwise proven, that's the number I'll stick with.
The "standard number" is a proportion, and we are a non-standard amount of players.