I'm alive, but busy, sorry some shit came up around the house and while it's done, I won't be able to catch up and post til later tonight.

First lets repeat: JMICH WAS A RVS VOTE! Good, now that it is hopefully understood and not to be separated into two things again..I'll return to the other matter.
So I am just guessing you didn't actually get my reason for voting, since you found it weird that I was voting first for one, then the other of the two people who both fit my reason and both required pressure (In my opinion), but where the first one had already "claimed"? Basically it came down to both Z and A fitting the profile that their claims and the mod info made them less likely to be town, thus both viable targets for my day one strategy. But I am glad that you at least did not consider the JMich vote although switching two targets can't actually be considered vote jumping when both is reasoned and for the same reason, meaning that neither my tactic nor my reason changed ;)

(Waiting for pazzer to finish his read and bullet points summary.)

I did get your reasoning and that is why I didn't vote for you. It's just that 3 days feels like a really short time period in this game and your switching between amok and Zchinque really stood out for me (I've already explained why).



(Thanks for your post, I was bored out of my mind checking the Witcher timer...)

p421 - cspvg's vote makes no sense, deadline looming and if got idea from amoks claim why not do it earlier, stranger as thinks amok is jester

p424 - very funny

why is there a vote on mentioning stuff instead of sorting out a lynch

p436 - +town

p443 - don't remember rob saying that

p454 - flub happy to vote for two people who have currently have no votes with deadline close

p493 - P1na not sure will be about for deadline but not prepared to move vote somewhere useful

Telika, flub choose not to hammer amok

puzzled as to why no lynch as saw 5 possibilities - Rob, P1na, flub, nmillar, red

Apart from rvs vote both rob and flub don't appear to have voted. Plus neither voting for anyone at end of day.

Though more interested in P1na's vote as on flub all day.

Lazy mod as no end of day vote count

Quick inactivity post. Alive, and think Telika is right to go after nmillar. Will hunt the specific posts tomorrow.

No nk, baring tons of rb looks like there isn't a sk. Unlikely to be a vig, not sure if that effects amok been a jester or not.

No flip on zchinque didn't he have a role, was it just joe messing with us

p524 - lol

why do vitek, amok and telika think red didn't vote for amok


p530 - more crazyness

what's with all the talking about stuff we're not allowed

Was talk day 1 of amok been jester but quick votes on him, puzzling, but jester expert (spf) is voting so maybe nothing to worry about

P1na backed up amok about picking number so probably not a lie. Others appear to have picked numbers too.


p616 - vote for Nmillar seems to come out of nowhere

p627 - WTF

Because his name wasn't listed in opening post correct?


Is possible I have overlooked the word could in your post. But the top bit along with note to Joe made me think that you did believe claim.


@spf do you think vitek is mafia?


flub is not town, Vote flub

Interesting.

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Why?


After some reading Mr. Red gained few town points.
Could you answer me one hypotetical question, Baron?
If amok was to claim something important town now, would you be willing to leave him alive?

@Pazzer

1: Yes, that was in regards to that, which in turn was based upon his own claims. And Zchinque was pretty much the same, although of course he didn't go all out "claiming".

2: In my mind it was the: tend to believe, and sounds like. But yea, I can see how it coupled with my joke notice to Joe can sound like - honestly looking back it gives a rather different look than what I thought when I wrote it.

Hmm in fact yes, due to the fact that I want him lynched based upon the "you shall not lie", but as I mentioned earlier and which I find support in from Pazzer, flub pretty much jumped to my scum list :) So in that regard I would prefer the one I consider the most likely scum, as opposed to the one I currently consider something which I am not sure I trust, but other than lying haven't directly acted as scum. Keep in mind I would still be highly dubious about his claim, and this scenario with me voting flubbucket instead of amok is also easily possible if amok doesn't claim anything specific, but that I see more suspect behavior from flub (or perhaps when I read backwards, as Pazzer clearly picked up on something (the voting for one with no votes, so close to deadline - shame on Joe that it was missed due to lack of vote count =).)

Well, I still despise flub for taking boobies away, and I saw no particular person where my vote would have been critical to a lynch. I figured if amok was to be lynched, my vote (at that point) wouldn't have made much of a difference among the full rooster of players. As a not-exactly-serious player, I don't feel right to go all crazy for a lynch without a good reason*.

*Yes, taking boobies away is a good reason**. And a pretty good one at that.

** Careful SPF, that's a TVtropes link.

flubbucket is town and has played as such entire game. Your vote, pazzer, is based on....

All I can speculate is a possible redirect from Red_Baron who has done a smash up job of flailing around.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_19_a_slalom_mafia/post670
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http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_19_a_slalom_mafia/post670
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_19_a_slalom_mafia/post536

Opinions change fast....

Vote Red_Baron

Ah, yes - they have changed so fast that days went by after one claimed liar, wasn't lynched and I haven't even changed my vote yet, nor for that matter uttered anything else other than what I have been saying in regards to you, oddly you seem to suggest that having a scum list and being willing to vote for that when asked a direct question about it is a change in opinion. If one was to, say look at the posts you yourself quoted and my latest you'll likely see a gradually change in my opinion about potential suspects, as in nmillar going down the list, with flubbucket going up. I guess gradually changing opinion based upon posts are a radical idea in a game of mafia.

So interestingly enough we once again have a situation where amok is voting me because I am capable of imagining two options(actually more given scum list) for a lynch, I do hope you realize that if we follow standard mafia there is usually 3 people you have to keep watch out for.

However I do agree amok, opinions change fast, yours have been constantly changing whenever one thing was about to be proven wrong, one simple had to change it, even if it was one's claim. But I'll give you have been rather persistent in voting for me. Yet to give any reason that would do something other than cast suspicion on yourself, but heck - you should pretty much have been lynched already.