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Vitek: I just, in one sentence, mentioned my current thoughts and you draw it into all-day argument.
Let's review your thoughts, shall we?

Assumption 1) Three blockers for town are too many. So you decide that it's not possible for all 3 to be town
Assumption 2) A jailer can't be mafia.
Combining Assumption 1 and Assumption 2 you get
Assumption 3) Joe was blocked by mafia.

I'm asking you to re-evaluate your assumptions with the idea that assumption 3 is wrong.

Your replies?

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Vitek: Because I have never seen mafia jailkeeper (have you?). So if I was targeted by town, Joe was targeted by mafia. There is nothing else to it.
Dismissal. You stand by assumption 2.
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Vitek: If mafiascum.net wiki says it is not unheard of (but overkill for many game - that's how the quote there continues), it doesn't mean they are. I have played or read dozens of games and I have never seen one and if someone is confirmed jailkeeper than to me he is also confirmed town.
Assumption 2 again
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Vitek: Yes, 3 roleblockers for town are absolutely ludicrous idea.
Assumption 1
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Vitek: I have not cleared Joe. He could be lying. I said he would be cleared if we knew he was targeted by mafia. Where have I said I cleared him?
You don't doubt assumption 3, you doubt Joe. Ergo, if Joe isn't lying, you still believe assumption 3 to be true. Thus you clear Joe.

So, if assumption 3 is false and Joe was blocked by town, that either means we have a mafia jailer (which will shatter your worldview), or 3 town blockers (which will also shatter your worldview).
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JMich:
Or Joe is lying (which will shatter your heart).
I'm quite sure I just had a stroke.
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JMich: You don't doubt assumption 3, you doubt Joe. Ergo, if Joe isn't lying, you still believe assumption 3 to be true. Thus you clear Joe.

So, if assumption 3 is false and Joe was blocked by town, that either means we have a mafia jailer (which will shatter your worldview), or 3 town blockers (which will also shatter your worldview).
But because as Joe points out, there's no proof he's not lying thus Vitek isn't trying to clear him. I agree with most of his logic, if Joe was blocked it was almost certainly by mafia.
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SirPrimalform: But because as Joe points out, there's no proof he's not lying thus Vitek isn't trying to clear him. I agree with most of his logic, if Joe was blocked it was almost certainly by mafia.
What if I told you that Joe was blocked? And not by mafia?
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SirPrimalform: But because as Joe points out, there's no proof he's not lying thus Vitek isn't trying to clear him. I agree with most of his logic, if Joe was blocked it was almost certainly by mafia.
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JMich: What if I told you that Joe was blocked? And not by mafia?
Hmm, then we really do have a ridiculous number of blockers.
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SirPrimalform: Hmm, then we really do have a ridiculous number of blockers.
Or Vitek is lying about him being blocked? But why would he do that...
Firstly, I would like to say that I did not claim to simply remove suspicion from myself. I did it to impart information on the group, as I was sure I was going to be lynched. I would still be open to questions concerning my odd questioning of Robbeasy so close to the deadline, but must say that there was nothing to it but a poorly thought through double-voter idea.

Moving on: If you didn't block Vitek, then who did you choose to block, JMich?
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SirPrimalform: Hmm, then we really do have a ridiculous number of blockers.
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JMich: Or Vitek is lying about him being blocked? But why would he do that...
No, I don't think he is.
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CSPVG: Moving on: If you didn't block Vitek, then who did you choose to block, JMich?
First block choice was Joe, since I didn't like him trying to set up a different lynch during the ending of Day 1. More or less what Robbeasy complained about in post #402.
Second block choice was you (CSPVG). Reasons why I was suspecting you can be found in quite a few of my posts during day 1.
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CSPVG: Firstly, I would like to say that I did not claim to simply remove suspicion from myself. I did it to impart information on the group, as I was sure I was going to be lynched. I would still be open to questions concerning my odd questioning of Robbeasy so close to the deadline, but must say that there was nothing to it but a poorly thought through double-voter idea.

Moving on: If you didn't block Vitek, then who did you choose to block, JMich?
You really weren't that close to being lynched. You had 2 serious votes and one pressure/prod vote. My vote is serious now though, as I don't like the claim or the associated paranoia.
This is again where I question the mechanics of the game... This is supposed to be night actions, but how are they handled?

So CSPVG boosts JMich, however JMich blocks CSPVG? Is there not a logical loop thingy there?

Does that mean that the first person who send in a message to the mod is first handled? This means that the mafia needs to kill at the strike of night, as they can then kill and be jailed (for example) in the same night?

Or is this only down to the second hit JMich got - in which case he was lucky he did not block the other way around...
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amok: This is again where I question the mechanics of the game... This is supposed to be night actions, but how are they handled?

So CSPVG boosts JMich, however JMich blocks CSPVG? Is there not a logical loop thingy there?

Does that mean that the first person who send in a message to the mod is first handled? This means that the mafia needs to kill at the strike of night, as they can then kill and be jailed (for example) in the same night?

Or is this only down to the second hit JMich got - in which case he was lucky he did not block the other way around...
I think there's a more or less standard order of priority that actions are resolved in, but I have a feeling that motivated actions are sometimes placed at the end of this.
One thing I did notice - the Mafia Wiki, when referring to a Motivator role, does mention its usually included in what is termed a 'role madness' game...

..perhaps the number of blockers is not so unusual??

Bah - I've just put a hole in my own case against Vitek there....

unvote Vitek for now - this is going to take a bit more thought..
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amok: This is again where I question the mechanics of the game... This is supposed to be night actions, but how are they handled?

So CSPVG boosts JMich, however JMich blocks CSPVG? Is there not a logical loop thingy there?

Does that mean that the first person who send in a message to the mod is first handled? This means that the mafia needs to kill at the strike of night, as they can then kill and be jailed (for example) in the same night?

Or is this only down to the second hit JMich got - in which case he was lucky he did not block the other way around...
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SirPrimalform: I think there's a more or less standard order of priority that actions are resolved in, but I have a feeling that motivated actions are sometimes placed at the end of this.
Fair enough. So if JMich blocked CSPVG before Joe, then he would have blocked the motivator thingy and not got his second action.

However, I have a feeling that we may not see any motivation, nor that much roleblocks in the next night.. Not sure if it means anything, though, but I do think there is a pattern here.